stop World War 2 in as few steps as possible

[ItsAChiaotzu]

Rigidly enforce the Versailles Treaty. If the pressure had been kept up, there's no way Germany could've invaded anyone.

 

[zombie711]

HANG ON!

Are we doing some kids history homework?

Well if WW1 was to happen here is a higher chance WW2 wouldnt have happend

LET HITLER INTO ART SCHOOL!

No, I just finished making a guide for my ww2 history test, and as I was thinking of the affects ww1 had on America and Europe vs the affects of ww2 ( ie women in europe get rights after the first world war, but American women do not because many American men did not go to war during WW1) and began to think of how to stop ww2, by finding the most important event which could be manipulated.

 

[Hectix777]

Kill Kaiser Wilhelm.

There is no WW1; there is no Treaty of Versailles; there is no economic turmoil in Germany; there is no WW2.

Then there's no Kellogg-Briand Pact, no the Russian Revolution of 1917 would have never occured and overthrow the government to create the USSR, Japan would not be our greatest ally and may return to a policy if isolationism, the US would have never come to power, and India and other colonies would have never gained Independence.

The most effective way is to never have imposed the entire war debt on Germany. If the US chipped in on some of Germany's war debts Hitler may have never become a dictator but America's greatest ally. One of the big reasons behind WWII was the massive debt we gave them, they just wanted to live good lives. Who knows, maybe Germany would sign with a military alliance with the US combining forces and being prepared in the case that Japan and Italy decide to go to war.

Japan, destroy the militaristic prime minister trope beginning in 1936

Italy...land.

 

[ShadowKatt]

Kill Kaiser Wilhelm.

There is no WW1; there is no Treaty of Versailles; there is no economic turmoil in Germany; there is no WW2.

yeah, that's about it. Now, can you stop WW I -without- killing him? Assassination's are generally frowned upon during peacetime.

 

[Spartan448]

stop WWII in as few steps as possible that includes the war in the pacific (Japan, China, USA, and Australia) as well as in europe.
you can do anything that was possible at the time, but only what you as a person could do.

Simple - Start a rally to push Congress to invade Germany at the first sign that they were violating the League of Nations, and nothing was being done. It COULD be done.

 

[AgDr_ODST]

severly cut back on the crushing Germans economy part of the treaty of Versaille and get Hitler either killed in WWI or accepted into art school...as for Asia have the US station 10,000 soldiers in Manchuria before launching a preemptive warning strike against Japan. there you go problem solved

 

[Scars Unseen]

Step 1: Let the Germans do what they want.


I think that would cover it. Not the best resolution, but it certainly would end the war.

 

[zombie711]

First off:

-Time travel to the 1860's

-Have the US governement develop interest in colonialism as to keep the bus for the next few years. Maybe a small conflict with the French in south-east-asia.

In 1860, the US elected a president by the name of Abraham Lincoln. The south went bonkers thinking he was going to get rid of slavery and the next 4+ years were spent killing more Americans than in every armed conflict before and since combined. .

That's not true any more, the total combined death is now a smidge more than that of the civil war.

 

[Spawny0908]

Blow up the Earth...I WIN.

 

[EBHughsThe1st]

Hard. The war helped my country's (United States) economy get back on track after the great depression.
Of course, if we're not talking butterfly effects, here, just stop the publishing of Mein Kampf. And to do that, I snipe down Hitler from a few towns away.

 

[ShadowKatt]

Kill Kaiser Wilhelm.

There is no WW1; there is no Treaty of Versailles; there is no economic turmoil in Germany; there is no WW2.

Then there's no Kellogg-Briand Pact, no the Russian Revolution of 1917 would have never occured and overthrow the government to create the USSR, Japan would not be our greatest ally and may return to a policy if isolationism, the US would have never come to power, and India and other colonies would have never gained Independence.

I hesitate to say this, but would that necessarily be a bad thing? No USSR = No communist state(maybe. THis is all hypothetical, of course), so no massive asian oppressive state. japan would likely be an isolationist country, it also wouldn't have been rebuilding from having two cities leveled with nuclear weapons and their capital(Is Tokyo the capital? I feel like I should know this without thinking about it...) burned to the ground in a firebombing campaign. The US wouldn't be a superpower, but there might not have even been a need FOR a superpower in the world, and India...I don't know enough about to comment.

I suppose the space race might never have happened, which looking back at the 50 year history of NASA, what are we missing there? No cold war, maybe a Korean war. Vietnam....it's a toss up, I tend to think no since again, no military superpower. Desert storm, probably not, likely not actually. And the rest of modern history...I can't speculate. Right now we're seeing a massive islamic expansion, I can't help but think that if the world hadn't grown up with the US as a superpower and their primary ideological opponent(there are many christian nations, but I think the US is the most influential, right behind the Vatican), then islam would probably become the major world religon and along with it sharyia(sp?) it's major dominant law system.

 

[countkillalot]

In 1860, the US elected a president by the name of Abraham Lincoln. The south went bonkers thinking he was going to get rid of slavery and the next 4+ years were spent killing more Americans than in every armed conflict before and since combined. It took decades to recover from that conflict. Colonialism requires a basically quiet home front to turn one's attention to expansion overseas, something the US wouldn't do even if they hadn't gone to war because of the massive lands that had yet to be settled within their own borders, some of which remain largely empty even to this day (Wyoming, for example).

hmmm... yes... I suppose you are right... but then there needs to be a way to let the Japanese know it's not cool to be a douche to other countries no matter how many Russians you've drowned. Maybe preemptively put some of said Russians in southeast asia? Alternatively make sure emperor Meiji is really interested in ancient japanese culture and not at all with fancy western modernisms.

 

[Comrade_Beric]

First off:

-Time travel to the 1860's

-Have the US governement develop interest in colonialism as to keep the bus for the next few years. Maybe a small conflict with the French in south-east-asia.

In 1860, the US elected a president by the name of Abraham Lincoln. The south went bonkers thinking he was going to get rid of slavery and the next 4+ years were spent killing more Americans than in every armed conflict before and since combined. .

That's not true any more, the total combined death is now a smidge more than that of the civil war.

EDIT: Removed because of Excel spreadsheet error. Will replace as soon as the numbers are fixed.

Re-EDIT: Never mind, you might be right. I can't find reliable numbers on the subject. Every website says something different and I can't find my textbook from last year.

 

[mercifulwrath]

Go back in time and kill Adam and Eve.

 

[inFAMOUSCowZ]

I travel back in time, and nuke the shit outta the world. YEAH no WW 1 or 2. Hmmmm I may have to rethink my plan a bit though, it doesnt quite seem full proof.....

 

[The Unworthy Gentleman]

The alliances between Germany and Austria were more culturally inspired than political. You know, brothers of the same Germanic race (just like Russia who came to the aid of its Slavic brothers, the Servians). Most likely whoever would have taken Wilhelm's place would have done the exact same thing.

It is an interesting idea though, what would have happened without Wilhelm?

It was mentioned in another post that countries were way more nationalistic back then, which was where the alliances came from. I think it was in the reply to that post that I said that we shouldn't get bogged down with the endless possibilities of what would happen. It is an interesting thought though.

yeah, that's about it. Now, can you stop WW I -without- killing him? Assassination's are generally frowned upon during peacetime.

Probably not. It was a hereditary autocracy so the only real way would be to either kidnap him, kill his father or mother or hold a revolution. The first would probably end with you being caught, the second is still killing in peace time and the third would change everything all over again.

 

[MASTACHIEFPWN]

Manspam the Europian Front
Put a bounty up for hitler's head
Link up with the soviets and go kick the japs' asses.

 

[Eomega123]

March 7, 1936 - Hitler sends an armed force to the demilitarized Rhineland.
March 8, 1936 - Alfred Jodl's report changes from "The French covering army would have blown us to bits," to "The French covering army blew us to bits. I messed myself."
March 9, 1936 - Hitler, seeing that the French and British will not stand for his bullcrap, loses confidence in his ability to conquer Europe. Germany becomes an economic power, content to make consumer goods rather than wage war. Everyone celebrates. There is cake.

 

[wekill]

stop trying so hard guys just go back in time and kill some one anyone if its like befor like 1200 ad world war 2 will probably never happen.

 

[Comrade_Beric]

March 7, 1936 - Hitler sends an armed force to the demilitarized Rhineland.
March 8, 1936 - Alfred Jodl's report changes from "The French covering army would have blown us to bits," to "The French covering army blew us to bits. I messed myself."
March 9, 1936 - Hitler, seeing that the French and British will not stand for his bullcrap, loses confidence in his ability to conquer Europe. Germany becomes an economic power, content to make consumer goods rather than wage war. Everyone celebrates. There is cake.

1) Hitler (according to his own book) didn't want to conquer Europe, he wanted to eliminate the Soviet Union. He attacked Poland to get a wider border against the Soviets (which is why he did not mind them having the eastern half of the country) and only ended up in a war against Britain and France because they were trying to save Poland. A serious backlash against a militarized Rhineland might have put him off because he thought he needed to be able to defend his industrial base while he attacked in the East, but eventually he'd have gone ahead anyway, simply without attacking Poland first and working only with the slim border available into the Baltic States through East Prussia.

2) Your assertion doesn't address Japan's wishes to become the British Empire of the Pacific.