stop World War 2 in as few steps as possible
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America was dead set to stay out of it, if the British sank that American boat instead of the Germans they would of axied up. Thats what broke Germany exceptional equipment and manufacturing ability just doesn't stack up when your up outnumbered 4 to one.bdcjacko said:
If only it was that simple, i think they could take one for the team.Psycho-Toaster said:
Go back to 1933 on the day Hitler became Chancellor and flip Germany inside out. Your move Adolf.
A page 1 /thread here. If it weren't for the ridiculous punitive clauses in the Treaty of Versailles, Germany would have avoided the ridiculous depression which ultimately led to Hitler's rise to power. Not that they wouldn't have had a depression after the first World War, but it wouldn't have been as bad as it was. The German great depression made the American version look like a minor recession by comparison.JUMBO PALACE said:
March 10, 1936 - Hitler, seeing that France and Britain would not stand for his bullcrap, goes with his second Idea and starts the Holocaust early. The other world leaders don't care because of their own Depression and because of Germany's lack of aggression, and all the German Jews die within several years.Eomega123 said:
March 8, 1940 - Fallowing Hitler and Mosselini's steps, most of Europe and even the US Start fallowing Facist policies to get rid of their debt.
December 1941 - Japan attacks the US, US fights Japan
March 1945 - US Conquers Japan and takes it over. US goes full Fascist with Roosevelt as their Dictator.
1950 - Most of Europe is Fascist or Communist.
OT: Keep everyone else out of a war that should have been between Austria and Serbia, no one else.
I like how lots of people think that killing Hitler would end WWII.
I mean, I guess if you kill him early enough in his life it would work. Though that might be kind of mean since in his youth he was just an abused child who loved Germany and had some anti-semitic tendencies along with a lot of other people during that time period.
And if you killed him once he became leader of Germany, WWII would have probably happened anyway with some varied shit in the mix like German nukes or Nazi dinosaurs or something.
Here are my plans for it:
A. Delay Archduke Franz Ferdinand so he isn't assassinated or just kill him myself. (If some random guy nobody knows about kills him instead of a Bosnian nationalist, then there would be no cause to act on all those hidden alliances that were so popular at the time.)
B. Delay or kill Princip. Self explanatory right there
C. Get Hitler accepted into art school. He's happy as a slightly mediocre painter and never acts on any hatred of the Jewish people. Nor does he spread the idea of violent nationalism and global takeover.
D. Somehow convince the League of Nations to enforce the restrictions on Germany and stop them from building up a military or taking back any of the land lost in the treaty of Versailles.
E. Based on plan D, I could try and influence the writing up of the treaty of Versailles so it doesn't financially rape Germany or make it lose all of its land.
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EDIT: Completely forgot about Japan. Ummm... no clue. At least with any of the above steps followed, the inevitable war with Japan won't be as difficult.
I guess someone could send troops and funding for China and Manchuria that still involves some bloodshed to end the war early plus a more heavily militarized China.
On the other hand, maybe with there being no WWII raging in Europe, there would be more oil resources available to the Japanese so they wouldn't have to invade Vietnam (French Indochina) and get slapped with an embargo.
I mean, I guess if you kill him early enough in his life it would work. Though that might be kind of mean since in his youth he was just an abused child who loved Germany and had some anti-semitic tendencies along with a lot of other people during that time period.
And if you killed him once he became leader of Germany, WWII would have probably happened anyway with some varied shit in the mix like German nukes or Nazi dinosaurs or something.
Here are my plans for it:
A. Delay Archduke Franz Ferdinand so he isn't assassinated or just kill him myself. (If some random guy nobody knows about kills him instead of a Bosnian nationalist, then there would be no cause to act on all those hidden alliances that were so popular at the time.)
B. Delay or kill Princip. Self explanatory right there
C. Get Hitler accepted into art school. He's happy as a slightly mediocre painter and never acts on any hatred of the Jewish people. Nor does he spread the idea of violent nationalism and global takeover.
D. Somehow convince the League of Nations to enforce the restrictions on Germany and stop them from building up a military or taking back any of the land lost in the treaty of Versailles.
E. Based on plan D, I could try and influence the writing up of the treaty of Versailles so it doesn't financially rape Germany or make it lose all of its land.
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EDIT: Completely forgot about Japan. Ummm... no clue. At least with any of the above steps followed, the inevitable war with Japan won't be as difficult.
I guess someone could send troops and funding for China and Manchuria that still involves some bloodshed to end the war early plus a more heavily militarized China.
On the other hand, maybe with there being no WWII raging in Europe, there would be more oil resources available to the Japanese so they wouldn't have to invade Vietnam (French Indochina) and get slapped with an embargo.
Simple don't impose such harsh terms onto the Germans with the treaty of Versailles after the first world war. Germany would have been a much more stable place and its people wouldn't have turned to a radical for hope. Done one move and no deaths do I win?
If you're talking about avoiding any war at all then I don't have a solution, because I don't know enough about the Pacific theater. If you're talking about avoiding a world war, it could easily have been avoided if England and France had aggressively denied German rearmament. Germany really had no army at all in the 1930's. If England and France had said "hell no" when German had begun rearming, they could easily have stopped it.
Taking it a step further, even with the beginning of German rearmament England France could easily have stopped Germany from remilitarizing the Rhineland and taking the Sudetenland. Hell, with a little bit of support Czechoslovakia could almost have stopped Hitler by itself in 1938.
Taking it a step further, even with the beginning of German rearmament England France could easily have stopped Germany from remilitarizing the Rhineland and taking the Sudetenland. Hell, with a little bit of support Czechoslovakia could almost have stopped Hitler by itself in 1938.
Then Arch Duke Ferdinand leads the Germans and Austro-Hungarians. Problem not solvedThe Unworthy Gentleman said:
1. Change treaty of Versailles to be more forgiving.
2. Kill some expansionists in 20s Japanese government.
Win
2. Kill some expansionists in 20s Japanese government.
Win
get a video of a nuclear testing, IN color, that is capable of being read by a tape projector (the projectors could display color just fine, it was the cameras that couldn't)
Use my awesome time traveling thingamajig to teleport into the home of whoever was in charge over there in Japan. Shout "I am you from the future" then say, " I bring a dire warning of what could happen if you acted on your aggression" show the video. say that, "one of those could go off in Tokyo if you act on your aggressions.
Repeat in Germany, but replace "Tokyo" with "Berlin."
and yes, I know that neither tokyo nor berlin got nukified, but I need to maximize the intimidation potential.
Use my awesome time traveling thingamajig to teleport into the home of whoever was in charge over there in Japan. Shout "I am you from the future" then say, " I bring a dire warning of what could happen if you acted on your aggression" show the video. say that, "one of those could go off in Tokyo if you act on your aggressions.
Repeat in Germany, but replace "Tokyo" with "Berlin."
and yes, I know that neither tokyo nor berlin got nukified, but I need to maximize the intimidation potential.
