The big question here is why a group of gay men were eating at a Waffle House. Has anyone ever been to one of those? They're like the least-gay places on Earth.
No one deserves to be beat up by a crowd of people for defending himself AFTER being hit by someone else. Sure he said "******" but that doesn't warrant beating the shit out of him. All the crowd did was prove to him that he's right.Leadfinger said:In my view, the beat down was totally warranted. You could look at it as a kind of "manners coaching." Perhaps the fellow will think before he speaks in the future.
So you know this guy has beat up on gays before?SpectacularWebHead said:Fuck yeah. It's about time frankly, all these people beating up guys for being gay, I'm glad to see a little karma coming round. That guy deserved everything he got and more.
Actually, if you look at his left hand you'll see him slap her first which started the beat down. Also she yells at him which kind of hard to hear but she yells at him not to touch her as she slaps him.Jack the Potato said:Clearly the woman struck the offender first. He's still a hateful, callous asshole, but he was backed into a corner and was hit by the woman. So no, he didn't deserve an ass-kicking. Violence doesn't change minds, in fact if anything he'll be even more hateful towards gay people. Violence begets more violence, after all.
Have to correct another person... he wasn't being held back at the throat it was the upper part of his chest. If you look you can also see another person holding him back by placing their hands on his stomach. The two guys were trying to defuse the situation but as soon as they let go he slaps the woman.twistedmic said:Snip.AzrealMaximillion said:snip.
the woman hit him first. im not saying its justified but your missing a ridiculously important part. the guys were holding him, they let go, the woman hit him, then he went after her, and thus they went after himMaster_Fubar23 said:Have to correct another person... he wasn't being held back at the throat it was the upper part of his chest. If you look you can also see another person holding him back by placing their hands on his stomach. The two guys were trying to defuse the situation but as soon as they let go he slaps the woman.
This guy deserved the beat down but not because he said the wrong thing or that he got slapped. He deserved it because he could have walked away but instead lost his restraint and hit the woman he was arguing with.
Let's be honest, if someone is willing to shout that sort of stuff in public it's likely he's done it before. And when I said karma, I didn't mean that one guy specifically, more him as a representation of the people who HAVE beat up gay guys regularly for stupid reasons. I should have made it clearer, I was talking more in a wider sense than just this incident.LetalisK said:Yay for mob mentality. It's a fact that you can beat bigotry out of people.
So you know this guy has beat up on gays before?SpectacularWebHead said:Fuck yeah. It's about time frankly, all these people beating up guys for being gay, I'm glad to see a little karma coming round. That guy deserved everything he got and more.
I may be a bit biased, I admit that, but it's been my experience the on average its not the gay folk who start these fights. Let's be honest here, the vast majority of homophobic slurs and insults are throw around without being really provoked.twistedmic said:You forgot to mention the part where he was pressed up against a wall with an arm across his throat and the part where he was hit first. The guy didn't just reach out to randomly slap the woman, and he was already being physically threatened so he was acting in self-defense.AzrealMaximillion said:Yeah....this is uncommon to hear about. A straight guy in a Wafflehouse was in a conflict with a group of gay men for using the word "******". After a bit of yelling a he reaches out to slap a woman and proceeds to get beaten up:[link]http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh3070esatamMh4A1b[/link]
With 'mob justice' and equal rights being kind of popular on the forums recently, I'd like to know your thoughts on the manner.
In my opinion this is weird to comment on. You almost never hear of a person being confronted much less beat up for homophobic remarks.
And, to be fair, we don't know how the incident got started. For all we know the gay people started it by picking on or otherwise harassing the straight guy.
I disagree.It's unfortunate that the guy is a homophobe, but it's intolerable for him to abuse people in public with hate speech. He deserved the kicking he got. If tolerance and understanding are not in the cards for this fellow, maybe a lesson in stfu is just what he needed.shameduser said:No one deserves to be beat up by a crowd of people for defending himself AFTER being hit by someone else. Sure he said "******" but that doesn't warrant beating the shit out of him. All the crowd did was prove to him that he's right.Leadfinger said:In my view, the beat down was totally warranted. You could look at it as a kind of "manners coaching." Perhaps the fellow will think before he speaks in the future.
If that were even remotely true, I would expect the homosexual population to be dead by now considering roughly half of the country is anti-gay. No, they're going to be quite comfortable in the safety of their little free speech bubble where they're protected by the law. Also, even if he had, why is he suddenly the representation paying for the sins of everyone else? It's great for the founding of a religion, but that's not just at all. And do you think that's the message all the anti-gay people are going to take away from this? Or is it going to just further justify their hate in their own warped minds? No, there is no kernel of good in this pile of shit situation. We should be better than this or supporting this.SpectacularWebHead said:Let's be honest, if someone is willing to shout that sort of stuff in public it's likely he's done it before. And when I said karma, I didn't mean that one guy specifically, more him as a representation of the people who HAVE beat up gay guys regularly for stupid reasons. I should have made it clearer, I was talking more in a wider sense than just this incident.LetalisK said:Yay for mob mentality. It's a fact that you can beat bigotry out of people.
So you know this guy has beat up on gays before?SpectacularWebHead said:Fuck yeah. It's about time frankly, all these people beating up guys for being gay, I'm glad to see a little karma coming round. That guy deserved everything he got and more.
The free speech bubble bit came off a little homophobic, but you haven't said anything to suggest it so benefit of the doubt, just watch the phrasing a bit. With wider relevance, anyone who's been deeply engrained into believing gay people are scum of the earth aren't going to change. It's harsh but true. Allowing them to justify their hatred isn't a problem, because they already have, be it through religion or simply prejudice. They believe that wha they are doing is fully justified. Incidents like this don't make anyone MORE homophobic, they simply allow the homophobes to go ***** in their corner about "Fags" whilst having learnt that maybe messing with these guys is a bad idea. Supporting what happened here is fully logical if you believe LGBT people are equal to everyone else, because it signifies a very clear message; "We are becoming intolerant of your intolerance." I'm not expecting anything big to come from this, but if more instances like this pop up, with gays defending themselves against intolerant slurs from fuckwits instead of just taking it, It would over all be a good thing.LetalisK said:If that were even remotely true, I would expect the homosexual population to be dead by now considering roughly half of the country is anti-gay. No, they're going to be quite comfortable in the safety of their little free speech bubble where they're protected by the law. Also, even if he had, why is he suddenly the representation paying for the sins of everyone else? It's great for the founding of a religion, but that's not just at all. And do you think that's the message all the anti-gay people are going to take away from this? Or is it going to just further justify their hate in their own warped minds? No, there is no kernel of good in this pile of shit situation. We should be better than this or supporting this.SpectacularWebHead said:Let's be honest, if someone is willing to shout that sort of stuff in public it's likely he's done it before. And when I said karma, I didn't mean that one guy specifically, more him as a representation of the people who HAVE beat up gay guys regularly for stupid reasons. I should have made it clearer, I was talking more in a wider sense than just this incident.LetalisK said:Yay for mob mentality. It's a fact that you can beat bigotry out of people.
So you know this guy has beat up on gays before?SpectacularWebHead said:Fuck yeah. It's about time frankly, all these people beating up guys for being gay, I'm glad to see a little karma coming round. That guy deserved everything he got and more.
That badly? He was effectively "slapped to death". I've seen more violent beatings in minecraft involving a hand and a pig.Keoul said:He was an ass for calling out the racial slurs but damn he didn't deserve to be beaten that badly. And then there's the whole she hit first thing, he's an ass but didn't deserve that bad of a beatdown, maybe just thrown out.