Strange argument last night...

[Asuka Soryu]

I've gotta admit, some part of me would love to see some crazy ass guy with long jet black hair, eye shaow and red-nails controlling a black dragon as he claims he's gone to fix/rule the world and someone stands up with his/her dragon and proclaims he/she will stop him and save everyone as they have a huge Dragon battle.

 

[drumguy818]

wait wait wait, the problem you have with this conversation is that when a person creates a dragon the power will be used irresponsibly? Not with the fact that create a completely new species from scratch like a freaking dragon?! Where the hell would we begin to create something that has never existed?

I would unfriend you both.

OP is so ridiculous, I don't know where to begin.

yep, pretty much my feelings

Well, yeah, the idea of it was a little ridiculous to begin with, but if we could find a way to mix a bird and a lizard, then it's technically a dragon (or a pterodactyl, whatever). My original comment on it actually was "why would anyone even *want* that?" and then someone decided to comment back to me, then this former friend decided to join in. Though I agree, the idea that a dragon that they would want (yes, they literally want a medium sized, fire breathing dragon that spews fire that doesn't melt anything...yeah...) is a little ridiculous.

 

[funksobeefy]

wait wait wait, the problem you have with this conversation is that when a person creates a dragon the power will be used irresponsibly? Not with the fact that create a completely new species from scratch like a freaking dragon?! Where the hell would we begin to create something that has never existed?

Well, yeah, the idea of it was a little ridiculous to begin with, but if we could find a way to mix a bird and a lizard, then it's technically a dragon (or a pterodactyl, whatever). My original comment on it actually was "why would anyone even *want* that?" and then someone decided to comment back to me, then this former friend decided to join in. Though I agree, the idea that a dragon that they would want (yes, they literally want a medium sized, fire breathing dragon that spews fire that doesn't melt anything...yeah...)

perhaps the friendship was never meant to be?

 

[drumguy818]

perhaps the friendship was never meant to be?

That's how I see it, yeah, lol.

 

[theheroofaction]

Heh, your friend was right about the argument for the wrong reasons.

Specifically, it would be REALLY inefficient to engineer and then subsequently raise and train dragons. You could make a gunship that does twice as much for a quarter the cost in an eight of the time.



But that doesn't mean he wasn't being REALLY immature about it. I mean, it IS a hypothetical isn't it?

 

[drumguy818]

lol, I just linked the other guy to this discussion (the guy who was helping my former friend out). He might make an account and post, but whatevs, hilarity will ensue, so who cares, lol.

 

[Omnicide]

Genetically engineering a dragon, while I suppose is as possible as a stegosaurus wandering down my street, is still unviable as far as natural selection goes, and many attributes of a dragon simply are not found in nature.

Breathing fire is a good example of this. You can't splice this aspect onto a dragon because it doesn't exist into nature. A dragon, assuming it's more reptilian in nature than anything, its instincts would be primal and uncontrollable. Natural selection frowns upon vetibrates with 6 appendages (4 legs and 2 wings) and to actually be able to fly a dragon 5 feet long would need to have an incredibly huge, and therefore impractical, wingspan.

tldr; Nowhere in the future will it be possible to engineer a dragon. Both you and your friend's opinion therefore don't matter, so you both should find a way to get over it.

 

[ultrachicken]

I've never seen dragons depicted in a world with modern assault rifles, it would be interesting to see how bulletproof those scales are.

Besides, there's nothing a dragon can do that humans haven't figured out some method of doing on our own. We can fly (planes) and spit fire (flamethrowers) by ourselves, thank you very much.

 

[Zoe Castillo]

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[Smooth Operator]

Wall-o-text it burns, it burns my eyes!

Anyway I presume you and your friend are fairly young? At early ages hotheadedness is to be expected.
Simply move on to new friends and let him cool off.

 

[VoidWanderer]

Your friend seems like those guys in the Aliens novels that worshipped them like gods, or like one of the 'genius' guys running the multi-billon dollar corporation that wants to weaponize them.

I think that arguement was a good clue that he wasn't very smart.

 

[Wuggy]

Please structure your text better next time. It's somewhat hard to follow when it's just a huge blob of text.

Now on the matter at hand: It's so stupid. The premises for the argument were stupid and it's stupid that you actually had an falling out because of this stupid argument... about dragons. It's all just very stupid.

 

[Ruwrak]

But... dragons are real...

The komodo dragon :3
*badum-tish*

 

[SpecklePattern]

Wall-o-text it burns, it burns my eyes!

Anyway I presume you and your friend are fairly young? At early ages hotheadedness is to be expected.
Simply move on to new friends and let him cool off.

Agreed about the wall.

But if that "friend" actually said those things, I would not recommend having any contact with him/her. Even because of possible young age. Or at least I would loose respect for that person totally.

But naturally we only saw another side of the story here

 

[similar.squirrel]

Oh dear. Have either of you ever gotten laid? Not trying to be offensive, but.. Jesus.

 

[SpecklePattern]

But... dragons are real...

The komodo dragon :3
*badum-tish*

*Ruwrak raising hand and saying "anyone"*

*I am staring with a bit serious face.. but still responding to the high five smiling a little afterwards*

 

[Viirin]

Other than the insults, I agree with both of you. Wait, you said on facebook... are any of my players there? I have this EXACT scenario as a role play here on the Escapist- it's called Azure Wyrm and I would like more players! I'm actually doing an event on Halloween with it too...

Advertising out of the way.

Anyway, I wouldn't vote on loose dragons of mythical standards (it's possible to make, but would be potentially too dangerous, unless they're unable to breed, and only rich weirdos have them in fireproof habitats and wearing Invisible Fence collars).

If it was simply a cat's body (including claws, plus most dragons are based on cats), but with scales and a spinal fin from an iguana, but intelligent, loyal, trustworthy, and selfless like dogs, it could work and NOT be more dangerous than a dog- which is really just a tame wolf. Then again, the only reason dogs accept us most the time is because we, like them, are pack animals and they can be taught to accept us in their pack and consider us Alpha. If the dragon has non-pack instincts and behaviors, I still wouldn't want even something as simple as this made. Also it should have goat horns.

If I did have that I'd also go the extra mile and have its green color come from chlorophyll so it doesn't need to eat as much as it otherwise would. I'd also make sure it sounded right- crocodile. Screw it I'll also opt for giving it Pack Rat (collect shiny things) and Oyster DNA (pearls) so it could make its own dragon hoard.

 

[SpecklePattern]

Oh dear. Have either of you ever gotten laid? Not trying to be offensive, but.. Jesus.

Saddest thing is that even if a stupid person gets laid, that person is still stupid afterwards... Well at least I haven't got any smarter and really, really sadly, that goes for the most

 

[similar.squirrel]

Oh dear. Have either of you ever gotten laid? Not trying to be offensive, but.. Jesus.

Saddest thing is that even if a stupid person gets laid, that person is still stupid afterwards... Well at least I haven't got any smarter and really, really sadly, that goes for the most

The topic wasn't stupid per se, just really, really nerdy.

 

[Jessta]

Well... your friend is quite silly to get pissed over something like that... But! Isn't it worth, millions of dying if we could have fucking DRAGONS in real life?!

In my opinion... Yes!

This, all the way!
Although to be fair, scales aren't really tough steel plates and there is nothing we could do to make it so a creature had steel plated skin because that's a trait that never has and never will occur in nature (mostly because steel is heavily worked and forged with fire) I also don't think the fire breathing aspect could work out very well (I think there's a few a beetles that incorporate things like this so we could use those traits although it would consume an enormous amount of energy to make a difference for something larger than a small bird) and unless it had hollow bones and wings about three times its overall size it wouldn't be able to fly and even then it couldn't fly while carrying someone on its back unless it was the size of an elephant or a whale. In short if we did give all the traits we could that suit a dragon through genetic splicing they wouldn't be anything a shotgun couldn't take care of and they would pretty much be useful only for exhibition and considering we're having a hard enough time allowing genetic engineering for useful things like food I can hardly see something like a dragon being made within the next couple thousand years. Although I do think it would be pretty fucking sweet I gotta say I would pay 100 bucks to go to a zoo with dragons.

I don't think that dragons would be particularly world threatening if we created them, a little worse than bears pretty much, unless for some stupid reason we gave them minds that work like wasps so they would go out of their way to suicide attack everything they come across.