Student Protest
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Well, quite frankly...they asked for it. This is what happens when people feel they ain't being listened to during peaceful protest, and this government never listens. Though seriously, high youth unemployment figures and support for said unemployed is cut, higher uni fees, EMA being cut, as well as general youth services being cut (for one thing, a local youth counselling centre has had to lower their maximum age limit, as they can no longer afford to treat as many people)...it seems to me this coalition government has it's sights set on "sacrificing" the younger generation to pay for their and the bank's mistakes.
It's good with some protest but what really annoys me is the media, who try to sell it as an anarchist rebellion (or something similar)
look at this picture series http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11728003 especially the one with a guy kicking in a window. Most of the onseers are photographers and media crew, there's even a police officer wathcing!
look at this picture series http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11728003 especially the one with a guy kicking in a window. Most of the onseers are photographers and media crew, there's even a police officer wathcing!
Huh. I remember when in Holland the middle schools (that's ages from 12 to 18, right?) protested about some thing or another. point is, I walked in the 'procession', and when I saw some idiots smashing shit, stelaing, and throwing eggs, I just left. I didn't want to be part of a crowd that had no goal other than destruction.
Another idiotic decision from Britain, the Con-Dem-nation.
A little number cruncher:
Potential money saved from all of the cuts (Yes all of them) over the next 4 years: £81 Billion
Potential money saved from scrapping Trident, a useless and outdated system: £97 Billion
Now you see why you shouldnt vote for the Tories (or the Lib-Dems, those backstabbing bastards)
A little number cruncher:
Potential money saved from all of the cuts (Yes all of them) over the next 4 years: £81 Billion
Potential money saved from scrapping Trident, a useless and outdated system: £97 Billion
Now you see why you shouldnt vote for the Tories (or the Lib-Dems, those backstabbing bastards)
Actually, I wouldn't say the media have been doing that at all, the bbc have spent a lot of time saying that this is just a minority of the protesters and most were peaceful.T0RD said:
As for that photo, of course there are a lot of photographers there, they stormed a government building, that's quite newsworthy.
Ha. My friends went to this protest, us being college students and are going to be going to university soon. [I couldn't go as I had to go on an art trip. 
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I am for this protest, University fees are expensive enough as they are and most people are in debt at the moment when they leave, so why raise them higher? It's because our country is screwed, we are in a lot of debt that people aren't really aware about.
I do believe that some people did go a bit too far with the destruction thing though. Yet, annoyingly to say, it made the government pay more attention to the issue, yet they aren't now going to be happy to keep the fees as they are, because some people at that protest have seriously pissed them off.
] I am for this protest, University fees are expensive enough as they are and most people are in debt at the moment when they leave, so why raise them higher? It's because our country is screwed, we are in a lot of debt that people aren't really aware about.
I do believe that some people did go a bit too far with the destruction thing though. Yet, annoyingly to say, it made the government pay more attention to the issue, yet they aren't now going to be happy to keep the fees as they are, because some people at that protest have seriously pissed them off.
As soon as objects were thrown it devolved from a 'protest' into a 'riot', which essentially destroyed the point of the gathering and damaged their position for the future.
Honestly, pelting the Tory headquarters with eggs and rocks was not the way to go here, and I rightly agree with the head of UCAS in condemning it.
Honestly, pelting the Tory headquarters with eggs and rocks was not the way to go here, and I rightly agree with the head of UCAS in condemning it.
On the one hand, getting violent at a peaceful protest achieves nothing.
On the other hand, I've always found the whole protest march thing to be ultimately pointless. Can't think of a single important situation where it's ever solved anything or changed a governmental decision significantly. We're allowed to have our little protest and then we get hushed and sent back to bed.
On a related note I heard one interviewee on the radio today saying he thought "damn right the students should pay more. We all work for a living and make do so they should just get on with it, not drink so much and stop complaining". I mean first of all, I doubt absolving from alcohol would bring up the cheeky £6000 I needed on top of what I was originally paying, and second of all I bet he was singing a different tune back when he got an education.
Twat.
On the other hand, I've always found the whole protest march thing to be ultimately pointless. Can't think of a single important situation where it's ever solved anything or changed a governmental decision significantly. We're allowed to have our little protest and then we get hushed and sent back to bed.
On a related note I heard one interviewee on the radio today saying he thought "damn right the students should pay more. We all work for a living and make do so they should just get on with it, not drink so much and stop complaining". I mean first of all, I doubt absolving from alcohol would bring up the cheeky £6000 I needed on top of what I was originally paying, and second of all I bet he was singing a different tune back when he got an education.
Twat.
Couldn't agree more! There has been three protests that i know of about exactly the same thing and its only now that any of them get media coverage? In Britain today peaceful protests dont work, if the government keeps ignoring them its bound to only get worseDoclector said:
I would like to register my support for the protesters although you might want to add that this is almost entirely "south of the border" in England/Wales just now.Kirkby said:
Yet another reason I am glad to be Scottish first, British second.
Regarding the effectiveness violence gets attention, I'm not saying its right I'm saying it works (see also terrorism) Also "everyone is calling it a disgrace" makes me laugh. France dissolves into chaos at a threat of raising the retirement age but a bunch of students making a protest where some cause a bit of trouble is a disgrace?
Different people different lives I guess.
I am a third year British university student who opposes the cuts because they expose the Conservatives for the elitist pricks that they arr.
I am from a Middle Class family, and since the Student Loan (for living expenses) is calculated based on household income, I get the lowest amount of £3,000. Meaning I will leave university with £18,000 of debt. If a working class family gets the full amount of Student Loan and a £9,000 loan or grant for tuition, they will leave with approximately £54,000 in debt. This is not fair. Even the Middle Class kids will leave with £27,000 now.
It's not fair and it's probably not possible for them to pay this back. Do you know who can pay that sort of money back? Rick people, the upper class, the so-called 'Social Elite.' In other words, the people who the Conservative favour and support and want to help. This is not going to help the universities, what it's going to do is confine higher education to the rich people, which is of course something the Conservatives whole-heartedly support. Probably a lot of universities will shut down or become Polytechnical colleges. What's a polytechnical college? Well it was a joke institution the Conservatives put in the last time they were in power to try and appease the lower classes.
No protest will change their mind because the Conservatives are single-minded in their determination to return us to the 80s, when they had their last hey-day. You remember, when England went through one of the worst recessions in its history? I agree there weren't many other options but it seems perverse to replace a government who aided (though it was largely America's affect on the world economy) getting us into a recession with a government who last time managed to get us into a crippling recession all by themselves.
Do you know what they'll do next? They have plans to privatise the institution of the Student Loan. That means that Student Loans will be controlled by private firms, like getting a bank loan, interest will kick in immediately after you finish, or even while you're still at university, and will be at a rate set by the private company, not the government. There will only be two kinds of student in the future, those who are from rich families and go to university, and everyone else, who doesn't.
I am from a Middle Class family, and since the Student Loan (for living expenses) is calculated based on household income, I get the lowest amount of £3,000. Meaning I will leave university with £18,000 of debt. If a working class family gets the full amount of Student Loan and a £9,000 loan or grant for tuition, they will leave with approximately £54,000 in debt. This is not fair. Even the Middle Class kids will leave with £27,000 now.
It's not fair and it's probably not possible for them to pay this back. Do you know who can pay that sort of money back? Rick people, the upper class, the so-called 'Social Elite.' In other words, the people who the Conservative favour and support and want to help. This is not going to help the universities, what it's going to do is confine higher education to the rich people, which is of course something the Conservatives whole-heartedly support. Probably a lot of universities will shut down or become Polytechnical colleges. What's a polytechnical college? Well it was a joke institution the Conservatives put in the last time they were in power to try and appease the lower classes.
No protest will change their mind because the Conservatives are single-minded in their determination to return us to the 80s, when they had their last hey-day. You remember, when England went through one of the worst recessions in its history? I agree there weren't many other options but it seems perverse to replace a government who aided (though it was largely America's affect on the world economy) getting us into a recession with a government who last time managed to get us into a crippling recession all by themselves.
Do you know what they'll do next? They have plans to privatise the institution of the Student Loan. That means that Student Loans will be controlled by private firms, like getting a bank loan, interest will kick in immediately after you finish, or even while you're still at university, and will be at a rate set by the private company, not the government. There will only be two kinds of student in the future, those who are from rich families and go to university, and everyone else, who doesn't.
Not really, most of the time you will be percieved as a brutish thug.
Lets have Al Capones response to this bit of news.
"You can get much further with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone."
--- Al Capone
Lets have Al Capones response to this bit of news.
"You can get much further with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone."
--- Al Capone
Well still, I don't think you can blame people for voting tory. Labour did a pretty good job of messing stuff up over the past almost decade and the lib dems are seen as rather pitiful.Hoodsie said:Lol its the english democtatic system.. nobody votesBobic said:
(yea was a typo