Study Confirms That Fox News Makes You Stupid

[CarpathianMuffin]

Well that wasn't much of a surprise.

 

[mr_rubino]

Obvious troll is obvious. I suggest you try harder next time my good sir. However feel free to come back when you would like to actually support what you say with an actual argument, and I will gladly engage in the art of debate with you.

Facts are just perceptions, perceptions are just opinions, and opinions can be wrong. The only that's right is confidence!

The only truth is the one we create. Consensus reality trumps facts every time; just look at Wikipedia.

 

[Invader7]

1) Obviously, because it is wrong. Yes, I would call dear Sir Isaac and idiot (to his face I might add) if I had had the chance. Same goes for Einstein being a bit stubborn when it came to accepting quantum theory btw. Ignorance is never an excuse.

Ridiculous. Believing something that is wrong does not make you an idiot. Everything you believe about anything is probably wrong in some way. I can give many examples pertaining to, say, other life in the universe, what will happen in the future, etcetera. Human beings have neither the time nor the mental power to know everything there is to know.

OT: I've rarely seen any study that "confirms" anything. All a study provides is a correlation between two things which may or may not have anything to do with one another. It could just be me, but I only conclude things that I personally have experience or specific information about. I don't have an opinion of Fox news because I don't watch it or any other cable news network.

 

[Sonic Doctor]

*Snip*

I call bull, I don't even need proof to know that somewhere in the workings of that study was someone fixing the numbers.

It's called Yellow Journalism, slanting stories for your own benefit. Been happening since early 1900's.

Faux News belongs to the Elephants, Clinton News Network belongs to the Donkeys. And the only true unbiased news 50% of what you see and 0% of what you hear.

Woah, CNN is the extremist liberal network? From what I've seen of CNN there's not much of a gap between far right and left in that case.

It isn't hard to see the extreme liberalness of CNN. The minute someone speaking to CNN says something that CNN doesn't like, CNN drowns them out or does something to stop the person from speaking.

Fox News does do it occasionally, but far far less than I have witnessed Liberal news networks doing it.

If find it hilarious when people criticize Fox News for being bias and all, when the critics should turn around and look at the hordes of Liberal news networks they have, compared to one Fox News.

As far as I can see, there are no unbiased news networks or organizations. They are always going to have some sort of political slant.

Since I'm Conservative, I'm going to believe a Conservative source more. I'm not a Republican, that ship was hijacked a long time ago and the majority in it now don't follow the path of true Conservatism and freedom.

It has been stated before, but this thread needs to be in politics and religion. There needs to be some kind of automated thread sorter that as soon as a thread is made, it determines where it is suppose to go. Because it seems that more political and religious topic treads are put in off topic more than are placed properly in politics and religion.

 

[thethingthatlurks]

1. You can't call someone an idiot for not knowing something they have no way of knowing, you know nothing of my area of expertise and yet I do not call you stupid. If I wanted to point out stupidity I would refer you to...

4. I am a student and it says so quite clearly on my profile, a page which anyone who wants to can read. Now let me tell you that the majority of students are not all that bright. I'm near the top of my class in all my modules and was within the top 10% last year, that's not saying anything about me, it's saying something about them.

2. "Wrong, there are predictions" is almost painful to read. It was a fuck up in predictions that got us here in the first place and our last general election rested entirely on choosing in between two different responses to this event. The vote was close so I reckon both predictions are valid.

3. There's a 95% agreement in climate change but the 1 in 20 isn't a crackpot number. Your colleagues would appear to be students, which indicates that they're being told what to think. I'm not impressed by people regurgitating what they've learnt as their opinion.

1) An idiot is by definition a foolish person. Now what is not foolish about holding onto believes that are demonstrably false? And yes, I will call anybody an idiot, and I expect the same treatment from my peers.

2) Predictions are models based on available data. Predictions did not bring about the economic collapse, it was idiots who traded stuff that ultimately did not exist (or so I'm told). Models are not easy to make, and contrary to popular opinion are based on more than one set of data.

3) That is completely wrong! NEVER assume that 95% certainty means that there is a 5% probability of it being wrong. I don't have time to explain how scientific data is reported in great detail, but it is always within an error margin at a given confidence level (the percentage). In other words, an outcome is X +/- x, where x is within 95% statistical significance, which in turn is based on a gaussian distribution . And my colleagues would be the real scientists.

4) ...and? Perhaps I'm sheltered here at my university, but you normally do not reach the higher levels of college education (junior/senior, or 3rd and 4th year) without some intelligence.

 

[Irony's Acolyte]

As much I believe that Fox News puts a heavy, heavy spin on any news they put out, I still keep thinking:

Correlation =/= Causation

While watching Fox News may not be very imformative and could change your views on certain things if you believe them too much, maybe its just that the people who watch Fox News already believe that. I mean I doubt any of you would watch it and come out thinking differently. The whole idea that Fox News causes people to become stupider just by watching it is uncomfortably close to the idea that video games cause people to become violent.

 

[FFHAuthor]

Big surprise there, of course any journalistic integrity FOX may have had sorta disintigrated when they claimed that Mass Effect was a hardcore pornography simulator.
At least that's when I learned to never trust anything they say ever.

Hey, let's not get stuff mixed up here. Didn't they say it was a rape simulation?

No, I believe they specifically called our game out as a pornography simulator in that you could "choose and customize any sexual partner you wanted," or some equally laughable and ludicrous fallacy.

Could I get a source link on that one please?

 

[RollForInitiative]

Could I get a source link on that one please?

Sure thing. I believe this [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKzF173GqTU] should cover it. It was...quite the amazing display of journalistic integrity.

 

[FFHAuthor]

Could I get a source link on that one please?

Sure thing. I believe this [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKzF173GqTU] should cover it. It was...quite the amazing display of journalistic integrity.

Indeed.

Though how many times have the other networks managed the same kind of 'reporting' on games?

 

[Singularly Datarific]

They're just idiots, and only care about numbers and ratings.

 

[Krylock]

Fox news is the biggest piece of crap... Don't even get me started on O'reilly or anyone else in that matter.

 

[zfactor]

1) 91 percent believe the stimulus legislation lost jobs
2) 72 percent believe the health reform law will increase the deficit
3) 72 percent believe the economy is getting worse
4) 60 percent believe climate change is not occurring
5) 49 percent believe income taxes have gone up
6) 63 percent believe the stimulus legislation did not include any tax cuts
7) 56 percent believe Obama initiated the GM/Chrysler bailout
8) 38 percent believe that most Republicans opposed TARP
9) 63 percent believe Obama was not born in the U.S. (or that it is unclear)

Oh wait, 1 is still not clear; 2 is true (how can government run healthcare not cost more money?); 3 is opinion; 4 is opinion; 5 is they might if they don't re-approve the Bush tax cuts; 6 was never made clear, but it did; 7 is I don't know, but his administration did; 8 is I don't know again; 9 never was made clear.

And every news channel is biased. Fox is pretty much the only one pro-republican. The rest are leftist.

 

[soren7550]

I think this is funny. Partly because I'm still resentful of how they treated Mass Effect.

'Sex box' my ass. Stick that up your ignorant pipes and smoke it!

 

[RollForInitiative]

Could I get a source link on that one please?

Sure thing. I believe this [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKzF173GqTU] should cover it. It was...quite the amazing display of journalistic integrity.

Indeed.

Though how many times have the other networks managed the same kind of 'reporting' on games?

I honestly couldn't say. I don't generally see games creep into the news quite like that little incident provoked, however, so I don't have many frames of reference. This particular instance just makes me cringe, especially upon hearing that the person speaking against it didn't do any research at all and refused to even touch it.

 

[Matt_LRR]

1) 91 percent believe the stimulus legislation lost jobs
2) 72 percent believe the health reform law will increase the deficit
3) 72 percent believe the economy is getting worse
4) 60 percent believe climate change is not occurring
5) 49 percent believe income taxes have gone up
6) 63 percent believe the stimulus legislation did not include any tax cuts
7) 56 percent believe Obama initiated the GM/Chrysler bailout
8) 38 percent believe that most Republicans opposed TARP
9) 63 percent believe Obama was not born in the U.S. (or that it is unclear)

Oh wait, 1 is still not clear; 2 is true (how can government run healthcare not cost more money?); 3 is opinion; 4 is opinion; 5 is they might if they don't re-approve the Bush tax cuts; 6 was never made clear, but it did; 7 is I don't know, but his administration did; 8 is I don't know again; 9 never was made clear.

And every news channel is biased. Fox is pretty much the only one pro-republican. The rest are leftist.

No. nonono.

1. is measuarble. It has. 3.3 million of them.
2. the healthcare bill includes spending offsets, and is actually budgeted to reduce the deficit by 138 billion.
3. question of fact, not opinion. By all economicmeasures, the economy is recovering.
4. also a question of fact. climate change is occurring.
5. taxes have been reduced for the overwhelming majority of ameircans.
6. it did, and it was made clear.
7. Bush Did.
8. the bush admuinistration got it rolling.
9. his birth certificate is all over the goddamn internet.

-m

 

[Altorin]

It's called Yellow Journalism, slanting stories for your own benefit. Been happening since early 1900's.

Faux News belongs to the Elephants, Clinton News Network belongs to the Donkeys. And the only true unbiased news is 50% of what you see and 0% of what you hear.

the 1900s?

America's Revolution was popularized by slanted journalism. Ben Franklin himself owned so many papers that he could pretty much print whatever anti-british thing he wanted, and thousands of people would listen with eager ears, whether it was true or not.

 

[FFHAuthor]

Could I get a source link on that one please?

Sure thing. I believe this [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKzF173GqTU] should cover it. It was...quite the amazing display of journalistic integrity.

Indeed.

Though how many times have the other networks managed the same kind of 'reporting' on games?

I honestly couldn't say. I don't generally see games creep into the news quite like that little incident provoked, however, so I don't have many frames of reference. This particular instance just makes me cringe, especially upon hearing that the person speaking against it didn't do any research at all and refused to even touch it.

Yes, I can agree with that. I prefer FOX to any of the other networks, but frankly, the way they represent any game is quite sickening in my opinion. They've never been ones to give gaming any kind of objective journalism. But I can't help but wonder if it's something we gamers see as being associated with FOX becasue FOX is worse about it than other networks, or if it's simply one of those 'I hate FOX so I'll post this everywhere' kinds of things.

I don't think that -any- kind of video game is ever going to get a fair shake by any network. To many mindsets in journalism that video games are toys for kids and not a form of art.

 

[BlumiereBleck]

It's called Yellow Journalism, slanting stories for your own benefit. Been happening since early 1900's.

Faux News belongs to the Elephants, Clinton News Network belongs to the Donkeys. And the only true unbiased news is 50% of what you see and 0% of what you hear.

Sooooooooo freakkin true!