Silentpony said:
http://observer.com/2016/08/just-released-script-for-suicide-squad-deleted-scene/
Okay I had to post this, 'cause it makes me laugh so much.
If you want to know what the problems with the movie are, this parody encapsulates all of them.
#actuallyprettyfunny
Kenbo Slice said:
It's not that Man of Steel had too much building punching. It's that Zack Snyder doesn't understand Superman as a character.
Superman is one of the harder characters to get right. Partly because of the difficulties in humanising an invulnerable flying sun-god, and partly because of the weight of everyone's expectations about what "Superman" is.
I like to think there's some leeway for writers to do their own interpretation or version of the character that deconstructs or reconstructs the core elements of their personality.
Red Son, for example, gave us a Superman who tried to take over the world in the name of socialism.
The Dark Knight Returns gave us a Superman who had essentially become a government stooge.
All-Star Superman gave us a Superman who was literally the second coming of Christ.
They're all different, but they're all Superman, and I like to think there's room for
Man of Steel's Superman in there. A Superman who's never tested the limits of his powers, who doesn't fully understand the destruction he's capable of, and who - in general - fights like a Kansas farmboy.
He improves significantly in BvS; when he catches Lois, I was impressed because he actually
matches speed with her, which is how catching a falling person would actually work. And with Doomsday, as soon as he's exchanged a couple of blows with him and gauged his strength, he just tackles him straight upwards into space. That might be enough for you, it might not; it was for me.
BuildsLegos said:
If your "Superman" wouldn't do this [http://whatculture.com/film/10-great-comic-book-moments-that-should-be-in-a-movie?page=8], then you've failed as a Superman creator.
That girl would see and reach out to Zack Snyder's version who watches her fall, swoops in a microsecond too late, and mopes that he couldn't save her. At least, that's what I gather from the part where he lets Zod throw an oil truck at him and doesn't even try to catch it, instead letting it explode behind him. Or when flood victims are reaching out to him from their roof and he's just farting around in the sky because they can wait.
He does actually save a girl from a factory fire, you know. And she's alive and fine; she didn't die of smoke inhalation or get crushed to death in his clumsy pincer-hands or anything.
I always read the oil truck scene as Superman just not
knowing what to do in this situation. He actually turns around to look at the explosion as if he's thinking "Shit, I should've caught that instead of just dodging" and then Zod sucker-punches him while he's distracted. Granted, that's me reading things into it.
I had the exact same thought with the flood people, by the way. "No, don't help them or anything. Just hover in the sky to emphasise your semi-divine nature. It's not like you're faster than a speeding bullet or anything."
BuildsLegos said:
The only worse source to adapt would be Frank Miller-style grim-dark; oh gee, look what we had earlier this year.
Man, people need to stop bashing on Frank Miller.
The guy basically invented the entire concept of "What if Batman and Superman fought?" He's responsible for codifying so much shit about the character that we don't even realise they didn't exist before then - he was the first guy to have Batman use a grappling hook gun, and the first guy to interpret the Batmobile as anything other than a really fast car. He killed Jason Todd before Jason Todd existed as a character. And don't get me started on
Year One.
All-Star Batman and Robin sucked. We get it. But it didn't suck so much that it turned back time and shat all over his previous work.