Superheroes Movies Set Bad Example, Says Psychologist
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Like who?Rarhnor said:
Iron Man: His ego and drinking problems are common knowledge as negatives, his playboy personality is part of his failure to live up to the idea of being a superhero and IS his vulnerability. Even with power he has to learn humility or lose it all.
Spiderman: As we can see from the 3rd movie, when he is not a weak kid trying to help people suffering from petty crime due to his uncle's death by a mugger, he becomes a jerk and has to realize that the over-confident personality the black suit bestows upon him is not worth it (even when it make shim much stronger so he can follow through with his mission to help people). Power is not worth losing yourself is the lesson.
Batman: A playboy by day who realizes he must be so because of society's expectations of a rich heir, he despises that act and shows his true selflessness by accepting the blame for things that were not his fault (which is something I thought was really powerful in The Dark Knight). He is someone who does what is expected of him at all times (for good or ill) as well as does what people need him to do. This schizophrenia between the batman and Bruce Wayne is a big deal and it affects his personality negatively as anyone who tries to live two lives can attest to. And yet, he always feels responsible and takes responsibility rather than go to the dark side and losing himself.
Superman: To this day he hasn't changed, the boy scout who wants to protect the world but also wants to be human. Much like batman, his schizophrenia affects him negatively but also makes him remarkably kind. Superman's journey is that of self-discovery, from finding out that he is an alien with powers that just happens to look human to trying to have a girlfriend and raise a family.
I can keep going, though I'm sure what I wrote wasn't completely accurate because I put together a bunch of things from current films, the older cartoon, and some comics (trying to nail down things as canon is kind of ridiculous).
So which superheroes do you have in mind?
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OT: The only thing this article has done is make me want to buy Bioshock 2. Plus (and I know I'm just repeating many people), parents should stop blamming the media for everything children do. Maybe if parents spent more time with their children, they wouldn't have to look to fictional characters as rolemodels.
You know what? I'll agree that Iron Man is a terrible role model. He really is, just awful. Alcoholic, womanizing, ready and willing to use lethal force...he's terrible.
Thing is, he's not supposed to be a role model. His movies are half superhero flicks and half character studies of this odd, brilliant man. If any parent is telling their kid they should "be like Iron Man," they're an idiot.
But while we got a new Iron Man movie this year, we also got a wonderful, modern-day retelling of Man of La Mancha wherein an idealist who just wants to make the world a better place decides to become a hero, is ultimately reminded that he's just a normal guy who's way out of his league, and who decides to be a hero anyway, even if it kills him.
Yes, Kick-Ass is a better role model than Iron Man.
Thing is, he's not supposed to be a role model. His movies are half superhero flicks and half character studies of this odd, brilliant man. If any parent is telling their kid they should "be like Iron Man," they're an idiot.
But while we got a new Iron Man movie this year, we also got a wonderful, modern-day retelling of Man of La Mancha wherein an idealist who just wants to make the world a better place decides to become a hero, is ultimately reminded that he's just a normal guy who's way out of his league, and who decides to be a hero anyway, even if it kills him.
Yes, Kick-Ass is a better role model than Iron Man.
Okay, but neither of them are good role models are they. In one series someone died and both Green Lantern AND Superman spent the whole series sitting at home depressed and hating themselves because of it.squid5580 said:
I was thinking about this idea behind bad role models and it occurred to me that there is an amusing layer of hypocrisy here:
Why is it that some figures that are deemed possible "Role Models" shunned for being egotistical, having some level of sexuality, displaying violence, ect. or in other words Flawed Human Beings, when attractive, seemingly flawless super models and other such figures are also shunned as possible role models also? So heaven forbid you're too clean and perfect in the eyes of the public, and no way either if you can relate to everybody else as far as character flaws? In short, there is no "perfect" role model because somebody will get into a tizzy over any choice.
It goes to show that so many "professionals" need to reevaluate their advice and look closer to the home and family in particular.
Why is it that some figures that are deemed possible "Role Models" shunned for being egotistical, having some level of sexuality, displaying violence, ect. or in other words Flawed Human Beings, when attractive, seemingly flawless super models and other such figures are also shunned as possible role models also? So heaven forbid you're too clean and perfect in the eyes of the public, and no way either if you can relate to everybody else as far as character flaws? In short, there is no "perfect" role model because somebody will get into a tizzy over any choice.
It goes to show that so many "professionals" need to reevaluate their advice and look closer to the home and family in particular.
In a way she is right. the way superheros are portrayed today are not like they were back in the mid and early 1900's. Superheros back then were as many of you escapists have said, perfect. Those superheros were meant to teach kids how to be good person and to do whats right for yourself and for others. They weren't made to be interesting or have depth that people could relate to. They were just their for kids to learn about what they stood for and represented. Today we want superheros to be more believable, a little more human. With that comes some things that kids really don't need to learn at a very young age. The destructive power that they can use, a bit of violence, some mild language, ect. Not saying that it's bad to show your kids the superheros of today. All I'm saying is you should make sure your kid knows what he/she is seeing isn't real. Besides the superhero movies today are usually rated PG-13, so it's not always a good idea to bring your 6 or 7 year old to see it. But if you know your kid is ready to see it then that's fine; he/she just needs some parental supervision. Today they aren't role models, they are icons. Since superheros today are portrayed as being a bit more violent and sometimes careless, they shouldn't be labeled a role model. Real people like police officers and firemen should and usually are considered the role models of today. We view those people as being in some ways pure. In some cases unfortunately, there are officers and such that do stupid things which make all the good officers look bad. But anyways, It shows that anybody can be a hero like them.
Did she just say that Superheroes were more realistic back in the day because they didn't face all the real world problems that modern superheroes are often given? Has she never actually met another person ever? How does she think that 30s Clark Kent had more realistic problems (as far as I am aware there really weren't any) than Tony Stark during his "Demon in a bottle" arc?
and because I feel like giving DR. Lamb a heart attack
you are very welcome male escapists
and because I feel like giving DR. Lamb a heart attack
you are very welcome male escapists
I can understand that. I like sci-fi like Star Trek, Stargate and Firefly because I wish I could travel in outer space, or live in a high-tech future city. But that's not all there is to it.Kurokami said:
With a bit of depth, I guess.
Like, maybe explaining that there might be good reasons why people should not be able to do those apparently commendable things that the X-Men do.
Oh...my...godSvenparty said:II2 said:Ninja'd!Svenparty said:
Was going to say something about Sophia Lamb and her damn utopian super heroes.
"Ryan saw the individual as a HERO, a noble survivor. And Rapture was his paradise; a shrine to the supremacy of the self. The result? Slavery, genocide, chaos. Now that the tyrant is dead we are a true collective, a single family." -Dr Lamb
This proves that she is the same person because she rejects the idea of the Hero
IT ALL MAKES SENSE!
Well nobody was keen on the idea of him doing what he did(throughout the entire story), but the final solution was a serious wakeup call to the powers of the world.Samurai Goomba said:Fair enough, but the thing is, Ozymandias was so flawed as a person BECAUSE he felt he was infallible, a sort of perfect human. He considered himself equal to or greater than Alexander the Great. His ego was like a physical thing-you only need to look at all the statues he built. Really for no other reason than to glorify himself.samsonguy920 said:
The movie is actually really clever about Ozzy. We rarely see too much of Ozzy, so his slimy egotism doesn't come across in its fullness. Basically, the audience won't start hating Ozzy too much (exception in your case-I found Ozzy really funny and debonair) until the characters do.
Creating a truly unlikable, clever, powerful villain (hero?) is pretty tough. I thought Ozzy's casting was perfect, I really enjoyed his performance.
I just love Watchmen so much.
And then he still goes on to profit from everything after. Grrrrr. He ranks as a villain completely to me. Lex Luthor would be his greatest fan.
Either case I think Madame Psychologist is seriously reading too much into all this and needs to get a life.
And here I thought there were, you know, characters in a work of fiction. Protagonists in drawn stories. An element of a genre of entertainment.Rarhnor said:
Ugh. This is why we can't have nice things. Moby Dick was just a whale, Star Wars was an updated space opera, and comic book writers were predominantly more concerned with having a job and feeding their families than with changing society. Trying to paint them into this merry box where the whole sum of their existence is to inspire the downtrodden is to ask too much of those early pioneers who braved the horror show of the great comic book scare and bannings to perform a job they loved and keep themselves and their families safe and fed.