Superheroes Movies Set Bad Example, Says Psychologist

[Dexiro]

Superheroes are bad because they're actually given a personality these days? Other than just having Mr.Perfect save the world.

Children are allowed to be shown a character with flaws, it doesn't mean they're going to grow up with the same flaws. Most of the time it teaches them how to overcome certain flaws and develop their personality.

 

[MattRooney06]

Super heroes are not the reason for Chav culture in England. I want to blame football, but that would be predictable, so instead I'll blame the rap music. Actually, that's a little predictable too with N-Dubz and Tinchy Strider acting hard in front of a camera and on a mic, so instead I'll blame archaic art, as that might have something to do with this if you spent enough time linking it with other things.

For example, I can link any topic you throw at me with food. It's easy, which is why I don't take too many reports too seriously.

Calumon: I thought people wanted to be the hero, not the person? I don't want to work for a shouty man with a moustache in a newspaper in a smelly flat.

Link to food hmmmm what about.......Gothic theamed funerals in the 1920's....and i want good links not "they ate food later" links

And Calumon i never understand people who say they would love to be eg Peter Parker.....why...hes a specky nerd with no money...on the other hand though i would LOVE to be spiderman

 

[MattRooney06]

Yep. We so need to get back to those wholesome values of the past.

I cant find a picture but that reminds me of a Super man comic during WW2 my grandad showed me it

on the front is got super man holding a very stereotypical japanese soldier (i mean realllllly stereotyped....squinty eyes, yellow skin, round specs, really short you name it)

and theres a MASSIVE caption reading

"Superman says slap a jap, its OKAY!!"......i feel sorry for all the american born Japanese who went into school the next day and were hidiousley assaulted

 

[CK76]

Human beings in general are not the best role models.

 

[WolfThomas]

Pfft she's just a psychologist. I remember there was a thing where three psychiatrists analysed heroes at comic-con.

Source: http://www.aolnews.com/weird-news/article/super-shrinks-psychoanalyze-superheroes/19559596

They were pretty good except for one thing, they said the Hulks anger came from his low IQ, not realising that the Hulk is often as smart as banner except he expresses it in different ways (like jumping huge distances in a city without getting anyone killed). They should have really focused on his split personality disorder, Green Hulk, Gray Hulk, Proffesor Hulk, Savage Hulk, Green Scar etc.

Also this woman doesn't realise that comics books are industry were I'd assume the majority of buyers were adults or at least late teenagers (seeing as these demographics actually have the cash-money to afford them). Oh and freakin' Captain America, he's a perfect rolemodel for kids.

 

[ItsAPaul]

So super heroes are acting like super heroes would if they actually existed, got it.

 

[JayDub147]

Geez, sounds like somebody slept right through Rachel Dawes' speech in Batman Begins. And Uncle Ben's speech in Spider-Man.

 

[SelectivelyEvil13]

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All very good points!

I can only imagine that Lamb also believes that blatant jingoism and McCarthyism were the "bee's kness" because heaven forbid Robert Downey Jr. act like a real person instead of some blank slate that thumps out bible passages for good measure to all of the little boys and girls after fighting the evil, undead nazi regime.

I've always thought superheroes, and the movies in particular, have been for entrainment purposes. If you want a role model, try looking at the people who directly influence a child, for examplethe parents!!!

I'm sick of the morally "unrighteous" using children as their sorry pawns to spread their twisted, self-centered views. How about they take some responsibility and own up to the fact that they themselves contribute to the problem by creating scapegoats to let bad parenting slide?

 

[antipunt]

Superheroes are role models?...

Eh alright, I suppose. (nope)

 

[Tears of Blood]

Lol. Psychologist Dr. Lamb?

Make sure this lady never goes anywhere near the ocean.

 

[inFAMOUSCowZ]

Wait your saying I shouldn't try to follow hit girl, kickass or BigDaddy? Huh couldve fooled me.

 

[Jared]

I can see where they are coming from with this, but, then again if people let thmself be totally sucked in byt in in the first place then there are problems anyway

 

[Loonerinoes]

I think I prefer where superheroes are going these days moreso to the 'golden years' of superman and such where they could do no wrong and always tried to do the right thing.

The ancient greek heroes also were far more to my liking than the ones she references. Because within such flawed heroes and superheroes lies an important message, that they are not necessarily good, just excessive. And that can bite back on them really easily because in the end, superheroes or not, they're still only part human in one way or another (even superman had to become human as Clark Kent, in spite of being from another planet).

 

[Samurai Goomba]

Fixed that for you. Jesus had his faults and weaknesses. It's just many people put him on higher pedestal than even he felt worthy of being on. And that's what most of us see instead of scrutinizing beyond the propoganda. It goes the same as for Buddha and Mohammed. Hmm, makes me have a bit of idea what this lady is seeing for herself here.
On the other hand Ozymandias felt he was super perfection and had no faults. While watching Watchmen, I wanted to punch that smug look on his face down to his butt. I do agree with you on the point that Perfect Superheroes are not those we need to look up to.

Fair enough, but the thing is, Ozymandias was so flawed as a person BECAUSE he felt he was infallible, a sort of perfect human. He considered himself equal to or greater than Alexander the Great. His ego was like a physical thing-you only need to look at all the statues he built. Really for no other reason than to glorify himself.

The movie is actually really clever about Ozzy. We rarely see too much of Ozzy, so his slimy egotism doesn't come across in its fullness. Basically, the audience won't start hating Ozzy too much (exception in your case-I found Ozzy really funny and debonair) until the characters do.

Spoiler

Creating a truly unlikable, clever, powerful villain (hero?) is pretty tough. I thought Ozzy's casting was perfect, I really enjoyed his performance.

I just love Watchmen so much.

 

[Jack and Calumon]

Super heroes are not the reason for Chav culture in England. I want to blame football, but that would be predictable, so instead I'll blame the rap music. Actually, that's a little predictable too with N-Dubz and Tinchy Strider acting hard in front of a camera and on a mic, so instead I'll blame archaic art, as that might have something to do with this if you spent enough time linking it with other things.

For example, I can link any topic you throw at me with food. It's easy, which is why I don't take too many reports too seriously.

Calumon: I thought people wanted to be the hero, not the person? I don't want to work for a shouty man with a moustache in a newspaper in a smelly flat.

Link to food hmmmm what about.......Gothic theamed funerals in the 1920's....and i want good links not "they ate food later" links

Okay then. Been a while since I've done this.

Gothic Themed Funerals in the 1920s.
Richmond from IT crowd was a Goth.
Later in the show, he got scurvy.
Scurvy is a lack of Vitamin C.
You get Vitamin C from certain fruits like Oranges.
Oranges are FOOD! (Disgusting food mind you, but food nevertheless)

Calumon: Wait, they didn't have food later?

 

[ultimateownage]

Wait, who ever thought a superhero was a good role model? That's a stupid idea, what kind of role model is that? Iron Man is a good role model because he teaches kids that murder is okay, has long has the person he is murdering is immoral? Wolverine teaches kids that it's okay to kill people if they are threatening you, even if they are doing it out of fear of you?

And what about Batman? A billionaire who puts on a cape and cowl and stops crime while contributing to tons of charities and bettering mankind with Wayne Tech industries. Who by the way has a moral code that prevents him from killing.

Or Spiderman. A hapless teen who uses nights he should be using to study or get to second base with MJ is instead sacrificing himself to help others. Meanwhile he has the powers to make him the most popular kid in class but doesn't use it for that.

And the best part of both Bruce and Pete is that they don't get any credit for what they do. They go out every movie or comic and save the day and neither one gets a simple thank you. How is that not a good message for kids?

Well the person wasn't talking about DC comics so those where irrelivant, and besides, Bruce Wayne is a dick in the movies. Also, you haven't read any of the recent Spiderman comics have you?

Super heroes are not the reason for Chav culture in England. I want to blame football, but that would be predictable, so instead I'll blame the rap music. Actually, that's a little predictable too with N-Dubz and Tinchy Strider acting hard in front of a camera and on a mic, so instead I'll blame archaic art, as that might have something to do with this if you spent enough time linking it with other things.

For example, I can link any topic you throw at me with food. It's easy, which is why I don't take too many reports too seriously.

Calumon: I thought people wanted to be the hero, not the person? I don't want to work for a shouty man with a moustache in a newspaper in a smelly flat.

Link to food hmmmm what about.......Gothic theamed funerals in the 1920's....and i want good links not "they ate food later" links

Okay then. Been a while since I've done this.

Gothic Themed Funerals in the 1920s.
Richmond from IT crowd was a Goth.
Later in the show, he got scurvy.
Scurvy is a lack of Vitamin C.
You get Vitamin C from certain fruits like Oranges.
Oranges are FOOD! (Disgusting food mind you, but food nevertheless)

Calumon: Wait, they didn't have food later?

Wow, that's a nice link. But that's fiction isn't it? The scurvy was purely an excuse to explain why he was missing in the previous season due to the show clashing with the Might Boosh.

 

[MattRooney06]

Super heroes are not the reason for Chav culture in England. I want to blame football, but that would be predictable, so instead I'll blame the rap music. Actually, that's a little predictable too with N-Dubz and Tinchy Strider acting hard in front of a camera and on a mic, so instead I'll blame archaic art, as that might have something to do with this if you spent enough time linking it with other things.

For example, I can link any topic you throw at me with food. It's easy, which is why I don't take too many reports too seriously.

Calumon: I thought people wanted to be the hero, not the person? I don't want to work for a shouty man with a moustache in a newspaper in a smelly flat.

Link to food hmmmm what about.......Gothic theamed funerals in the 1920's....and i want good links not "they ate food later" links

Okay then. Been a while since I've done this.

Gothic Themed Funerals in the 1920s.
Richmond from IT crowd was a Goth.
Later in the show, he got scurvy.
Scurvy is a lack of Vitamin C.
You get Vitamin C from certain fruits like Oranges.
Oranges are FOOD! (Disgusting food mind you, but food nevertheless)

Calumon: Wait, they didn't have food later?

HOLY CRAP!!! that was impressive, So gothic theamed funerals of the 1920's are to blame for scurvy!.....ok what abouttttt The union flag! (insert patriotic music)

 

[Kurokami]

Wait, who ever thought a superhero was a good role model? That's a stupid idea, what kind of role model is that? Iron Man is a good role model because he teaches kids that murder is okay, has long has the person he is murdering is immoral? Wolverine teaches kids that it's okay to kill people if they are threatening you, even if they are doing it out of fear of you?

Has is not as, just saying.

For me, this is right on the money. Superhero movies are like Team America: World Police without the irony. Like it's seriously the duty of big-muscled dudes to remodel the world in their image. I don't get what's to like about them.

And no-one is placing blame for anything, just warning about some possible effects.

What's not to like about them? I like Wolverine, Captain America, X-men, etc. Because they often have the power to do what I wish to have the powers to do, whether its just a general statement for superpowers or their ability to go beyond the law and such to deliver what they (and often I) might consider 'just' or 'right'.

How do you like your fiction, exactly?

 

[Svenparty]

I think Dr.Lamb should go back to Rapture....

Beat me to it. I honestly saw "Dr Lamb" and started thinking "where have I heard this before" and then laughed when I realised where.

Still though, this tired argument of "the media corrupting kids" is another shot at the scapegoat idea. Yes, media does influence kids (you only need to Google Bandura to see proof of this), but the idea that media leads to violence is idiotic. If morals aren't built into a child, then yes it's going to act out. If you decide to make a child's role model The Punisher or 50 Cent because you can't be bothered to take proper care of it, then of course it's going to be violent, cynical and just generally a bad person.

To be honest Dr.Lamb hasn't thought much about the fact that society doesn't need Superheroes to be role models anymore. Why do we need fictional role models when Disney etc can create live action clean living goody goody superstars like Zac Efron and The Jonas Brothers for people in the same age range?

Good values and clean living are also shoved down our throats just as much as all the Jack Nicholson's and other shady characters of the world