Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Videogames

iamultraman

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What the f-

I don't honestly know what to feel about this. I can't join all the jubilation because...well...it seems to me that even the best game out there equates to a good sci-fi novel. And I hate genre fiction. So good for me is...untouchable.

I mean if I ever have a son, I'd slap him across the head if he was reading the Inferno and say, "That is a pretty damn wicked thing you are doing." If he was playing Dante's Inferno--the distinction being that the author takes prominence before the text--I'd slap him across the head and say, "That's an obligatory slap because--damn that was a breast the game showed me wasn't it." I wouldn't be upset; it would sadden me that he just turned out to be...an ordinary, pubescent kid. I know people interpret media differently, as Scalia said, and I've seen people completely deemphasize the aesthetic work of the Inferno, but the Inferno, however you look at it, is a poem of such immense creativity poets today still have to match its ferocity and deluded prophecy (I'm not aware of any poem preceding it that matches the morbidness of the treatment of the five noble thieves--scary). Dante's Inferno...is a game. I'm not saying games will never match the Inferno in storytelling but right now they don't. I don't understand all of the furor.

Also, when I was 14, I was a stupid kid. As a stupid kid, I made mistakes that I regret; mind you, not life-shattering mistakes, but mistakes we all grimace at when we're older on the premise that we could have done better. Now I'm 17. I think I needed 3 years to collect all of the context that is required to understand the maturity in mature games. I don't think I'm a dumb person. I think I'm pretty unspectacular in how normal I am. Such is my reason that 17 is a good limit.

There just needs to be a restriction; just a small, though clear, barrier minors cannot pass through. Hopefully the rating system holds. And it will hold, as long as concerned parents exist. That's what works for me.
 

Skorpyo

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Did... did the system just WORK!? This deserves a definite "FUCK YEAH!"

 

Kaxim

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The guys who voted against prohibiting are Supreme Court Justices. They are appointed for life. They are done campaigning. They have pretty much won at law, there is nowhere higher to go. Dont get me wrong, I'm sure politicians notice, but not those people
 

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youngnastyman88 said:
Gamers didn't win today. Know who won? The guys who voted against prohibiting. They won us. They realize that we are the new breed of voters. So are they against prohibiting? Or just a future tactic to gain votes?

The guys who voted against prohibiting are Supreme Court Justices. They are appointed for life. They are done campaigning. They have pretty much won at law, there is nowhere higher to go. Dont get me wrong, I'm sure politicians notice, but not those people
 

poiuppx

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voorhees123 said:
poiuppx said:
rembrandtqeinstein said:
Falseprophet said:
I have problems with that policy, because I think you can either let an industry self-regulate, or impose government regulation with an appeal process. You might have issues with one or the other, but they both have legitimate points on their side.
I think you are overlooking the best possible option. Let individuals make decisions for themselves.
This, this, a billion times this. Laws and regulations that declare X, Y, and Z to be 'unwholesome' are bullshit. Man has a functional brain with the capacity to weigh good and evil and decide; trust in that for what they spend 60 bucks at a time for and do in their spare time.
Your missing one important point. Individuals are dumb.
No.

Stop.

That is not an excuse for police-state style infringement. That is not an excuse to declare a form of expression invalid. That is not a good arguement for removing the responsibility from the parents to parent, i.e., to nurture, raise, and protect. News flash par excellant; the people who run a government are individuals. The people who protest are individuals. Declaring carte blanche that because people are dumb they need a hand to hold ignores the simple fact that the hand will, ultimately, belong to another dumb person.

We are all idiots in our own way. When we're young, we're idiots because we don't know any better. When we're older, we're idiots precisely because we think we know best. This does not excuse us from personal responsibility; it just means we need to actually use logic and think beyond simplistic gut responses. Raising a kid is hard; it's preparing someone for life, and life is a bit too big to prepare anyone for in just 18 years. But somehow, we've been doing it as a species for a damn long time, and usually in history, the parent is the one who decides how the kid is raised. You'll forgive me if I don't think tossing that system out is a valid response to the horrors of new media.

Oh, and thanks for bringing in games are art AND Rights Act, two things this conversation wasn't even about till you brought them up. And as a sidebar to that door you opened, now thanks to this ruling, First Amendment protection applies in full to games, as if they were film, music, books... y'know, forms of art and expression. So, yeah. We can now officially say that the law is on the side of games are art. But hey, it's still a matter of opinion.
 

Newtonyd

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Skorpyo said:
Did... did the system just WORK!? This deserves a definite "FUCK YEAH!"
You, along with many others, seem surprised that the Justice system performed so admirably. As a student of the system, let me tell you that it is hardly the slipshod mess that Hollywood and people make it out to be. It's really an elegant system.

Many people look at politicians and associate them and their corruption with the Justice system, which really isn't the case on closer inspection.

Back OT: Which is why I wasn't really surprised by this decision since I trusted in this system to do its job. Many of the Supreme Court Justices, like Scalia, have proven themselves time and again to be smart, able, and wise.

/end Justice Fanboyism
 

SL33TBL1ND

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Hmm, while the issues about classification (i.e making games classifications part of the law) honestly doesn't matter in the slightest, the sub-text of "Games are ok too," is. Well done US, you did something smart for once. Now maybe our government will listen.
 

Kuhkren

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Newtonyd said:
Skorpyo said:
Did... did the system just WORK!? This deserves a definite "FUCK YEAH!"
You, along with many others, seem surprised that the Justice system performed so admirably. As a student of the system, let me tell you that it is hardly the slipshod mess that Hollywood and people make it out to be. It's really an elegant system.

Many people look at politicians and associate them and their corruption with the Justice system, which really isn't the case on closer inspection.

Back OT: Which is why I wasn't really surprised by this decision since I trusted in this system to do its job. Many of the Supreme Court Justices, like Scalia, have proven themselves time and again to be smart, able, and wise.

/end Justice Fanboyism
Hopefully you are well read on the efficacy of the system. If you are and your claims hold some water that makes me very happy :) .
 

Regiment

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Yes, yes, a thousand times yes. Video games are a medium, an art, and now legally protected by the Constitution. Way to go, Supreme Court.
 

deshorty

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:D Now all we have to do is hope that nobody attempts to appeal this decision. Actually I kinda want that to happen just so it can be shot down in massive flames.
 

Newtonyd

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deshorty said:
:D Now all we have to do is hope that nobody attempts to appeal this decision. Actually I kinda want that to happen just so it can be shot down in massive flames.
Good news, there's no appealing with the Supreme Court.
 

WilliamRLBaker

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And now parents will even more then before allow their children to play violent games then decry them when those same kids do something stupid.

America:Land of parents not giving a **** since 1970.
 

MASTACHIEFPWN

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We won one battle in a huge war.

Time to bring out the artilery...

In other news, the judges vote was probably swayed by TF2 F2P... Everyone plays that game nao.