Suspended Animation Becomes a Reality, Human Trials Underway
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They would throw any lawsuit you filed out the window with a laugh. You were in an accident and dying. All conventional life saving techniques are failing. You only have seconds of life left and there is no way at all to get either your consent or the consent of your loved ones because there simply isn't the time for it.Zeren said:
Unless you're wearing some sort of identification that indicates they shouldn't bother resuscitating you based on religious background or medical reasons, you wouldn't have a chance in hell of filing a successful lawsuit.
And honestly, what sort of crazy person would do something like that? They just saved your life, experimental procedure or not. You'd have to have some damn good reasoning to turn around and sue someone for saving your freaking life. "They did something new" isn't a valid reason.
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Play Again. Interesting choice as always, CAPTCHA
They wouldn't throw it out, good try.Kajin said:
[link]http://abcnews.go.com/Health/mother-sterilized-lawsuit-claims/story?id=9474471[/link]
[link]http://madisonrecord.com/issues/305-med-mal/255166-doctor-accused-of-performing-experimental-procedure-without-consent[/link]
[link]http://lubbockonline.com/stories/080703/sta_080703057.shtml[/link]
[link]http://www.nursinglaw.com/experimental.pdf[/link]
[link]http://www.nytimes.com/1993/12/30/us/89-million-awarded-family-who-sued-hmo.html[/link]
Let me know when I can freeze myself for centuries. You know, when space travel is easy as driving a car. Futurama jokes aside, I'd love to be a part of something that can preserve my corporeal form for the future, when I can catch up with all the stuff I missed Cartman style.
[link]http://madisonrecord.com/issues/305-med-mal/255166-doctor-accused-of-performing-experimental-procedure-without-consent[/link] This one is a pre-planned, routine surgery. Not an emergency, life-saving surgery. It does not apply.Zeren said:
[link]http://abcnews.go.com/Health/mother-sterilized-lawsuit-claims/story?id=9474471[/link] The woman asked for standard, run of the mill birth control and the doctor performed a surgery that removed her ability to have children. Not an emergency, life-saving surgery.
[link]http://www.nytimes.com/1993/12/30/us/89-million-awarded-family-who-sued-hmo.html[/link] You might want to check this one again. It's about an insurance policy refusing to pay for an experimental, life-saving surgery that could have potentially saved the patient's life.
[link]http://www.nursinglaw.com/experimental.pdf[/link] The woman in question had previously signed a Do Not Resuscitate order that was ignored. And the court sided with the nursing home in this particular case, stating that the medical staff had authority to prolong the patient's life if they deemed it appropriate themselves. Again, you might want to check this particular source and reconsider including it in your arguments.
[link]http://lubbockonline.com/stories/080703/sta_080703057.shtml[/link] This one was also a routine procedure gone wrong. The man in question was not undergoing immediate, emergency surgery. This was a procedure that was scheduled out in advance, planned ahead of time, and time was taken to discuss the procedure with the patient in question. This was not an emergency, life-saving procedure that would be performed in an ER.
Not a single one of those links is relevant to the particular situations in which we are discussing in this thread.
Nice try but,None of those were Life or death situations.Zeren said:
First one should be a crime,and the last two are not even related.
2,3 are cases of going in for surgery A and them preforming surgery B.
Which yes you can sue for.
It's essentially induced hypothermia.
Your brain should actually be undamaged, because the lowered body temperature reduces cellular activity to a standstill your brain is neither using, nor deprived of oxygen, so there's no anoxia to cause damage, the removal of a persons blood prevents blood clots and the saline replacement keeps the veins from collapsing and no exsanguination means there is a lower risk of blood clots and because this is a short term prodecure there is not enough time for a person to become brain damaged by this unless someone screws up.Cowabungaa said:
Not really actually, saline does no damage to the body, and with the cellular activity at a standstill from the body being so cold, blood is something you don't want in the body in those conditions, especially with people who have a high platelet count or low blood plasma level as that can significantly increase the likelihood of getting blood clots as blood settles from the immobility.michael87cn said:
No, it is not your choice. As long as you live in a society it is up to the society. The society allows you to chose some things, does not allow you to chose others. If you do not like said society - leave it.Zeren said:
what consequences? you made it sound like you would go and kill them or something.Zeren said:
It's really funny that you think you have any authority or say in this situation.Zeren said:
What are you going to do, track down the surgeons to their homes at night and nipple-twist them?
Someone mentioned blood draining somewhere...
...Is it weird that I'm hungry right now? The answer is yes but it bears asking.
All that said, I kinda want the Futurama scenario, and I have a list about a thousand pages long as to why.
The only down side is having a lot to catch up on if that happens, the good news though is that you'd also get to catch up on everything you missed.
The weird question is whether those shows will still be around that far in the future. As in, the people waking up will be an obvious demographic for the old shows and a reason to keep the shows going... Or at least bring it back every once in a while. But on the other hand, it might suddenly be public domain and everyone ends up scrambling to be the one to make the "good" continuation.
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This is way beyond the scope of what the article mentioned... Surviving another hour asleep is basically just... Well... The same as rolling over and going back to sleep.
...Is it weird that I'm hungry right now? The answer is yes but it bears asking.
All that said, I kinda want the Futurama scenario, and I have a list about a thousand pages long as to why.
The only down side is having a lot to catch up on if that happens, the good news though is that you'd also get to catch up on everything you missed.
The weird question is whether those shows will still be around that far in the future. As in, the people waking up will be an obvious demographic for the old shows and a reason to keep the shows going... Or at least bring it back every once in a while. But on the other hand, it might suddenly be public domain and everyone ends up scrambling to be the one to make the "good" continuation.
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This is way beyond the scope of what the article mentioned... Surviving another hour asleep is basically just... Well... The same as rolling over and going back to sleep.