Bah, next thing you know they'll be founding a "church" based on whatever fiction some strung-out pulp SF author couldn't get his editor to accept.
Son, we've yet to recognise Atheism officially.Versuvius said:This is win. Spread the word of the great Uploader! All hail the Holy Copy Paste button!
I hope this flies in the UK...
In the US religions still have to obey the laws of the land, which is why religious zealots are fighting so hard to get religious laws on the books, like pro-life, school prayer, etc. Polygamists may be following their religion but if caught they are prosecuted. Same as with those Amish men in Ohio who were attacking other Amish men and forcibly shaving off their beards because they weren't "the right kind of" Amish enough - they were arrested for hate crimes and will be tried.CapitalistPig said:Wow that could be game, set, match. But im fuzzy on what happens if your church breaks serious laws "in the name of god." so to speak. I mean its not like christians (or any religion) can smuggle guns, or drugs. So if your breaking international felonious laws what happens? Oh and dont drink their kool aid. We cant write them off as a cult yet.
True but this isn't the U.S they could actually influence their country to gain more freedoms then are allowed in (my) our country. I dont really approve because frankly i think this misuse of "faith" is why our generation ends up looking down on religion so much. Religion is a mechanism for culture and coping during hard times and if people use if for political means then well, were no better then the rest.3AM said:In the US religions still have to obey the laws of the land, which is why religious zealots are fighting so hard to get religious laws on the books, like pro-life, school prayer, etc. Polygamists may be following their religion but if caught they are prosecuted. Same as with those Amish men in Ohio who were attacking other Amish men and forcibly shaving off their beards because they weren't "the right kind of" Amish enough - they were arrested for hate crimes and will be tried.CapitalistPig said:Wow that could be game, set, match. But im fuzzy on what happens if your church breaks serious laws "in the name of god." so to speak. I mean its not like christians (or any religion) can smuggle guns, or drugs. So if your breaking international felonious laws what happens? Oh and dont drink their kool aid. We cant write them off as a cult yet.
OT: This just proves what I've always thought: religions are silly (though sometimes cute).
Im going to quote myself on this:CapitalistPig said:True but this isn't the U.S they could actually influence their country to gain more freedoms then are allowed in (my) our country. I dont really approve because frankly i think this misuse of "faith" is why our generation ends up looking down on religion so much. Religion is a mechanism for culture and coping during hard times and if people use if for political means then well, were no better then the rest.3AM said:In the US religions still have to obey the laws of the land, which is why religious zealots are fighting so hard to get religious laws on the books, like pro-life, school prayer, etc. Polygamists may be following their religion but if caught they are prosecuted. Same as with those Amish men in Ohio who were attacking other Amish men and forcibly shaving off their beards because they weren't "the right kind of" Amish enough - they were arrested for hate crimes and will be tried.CapitalistPig said:Wow that could be game, set, match. But im fuzzy on what happens if your church breaks serious laws "in the name of god." so to speak. I mean its not like christians (or any religion) can smuggle guns, or drugs. So if your breaking international felonious laws what happens? Oh and dont drink their kool aid. We cant write them off as a cult yet.
OT: This just proves what I've always thought: religions are silly (though sometimes cute).
True. i mean obviously the supreme court wont approve anything like that. But thats not what either of our quotes were about. This isnt about the U.S its about Sweden where the world is vastly different. They COULD sanction something like this. while it won't matter in the U.S it could matter in the E.U.Tubez said:sinp
I guess I should have written MY Supreme court aka Högsta Domstolen.CapitalistPig said:True. i mean obviously the supreme court wont approve anything like that. But thats not what either of our quotes were about. This isnt about the U.S its about Sweden where the world is vastly different. They COULD sanction something like this. while it won't matter in the U.S it could matter in the E.U.Tubez said:sinp
I agree with you. Not about Swedish law - I'm ignorant of those though I always thought of Sweden as a more progressive country than the US - but about using religion for political ends. It pisses me off and scares me.CapitalistPig said:True but this isn't the U.S they could actually influence their country to gain more freedoms then are allowed in (my) our country. I dont really approve because frankly i think this misuse of "faith" is why our generation ends up looking down on religion so much. Religion is a mechanism for culture and coping during hard times and if people use if for political3AM said:In the US religions still have to obey the laws of the land, which is why religious zealots are fighting so hard to get religious laws on the books, like pro-life, school prayer, etc. Polygamists may be following their religion but if caught they are prosecuted. Same as with those Amish men in Ohio who were attacking other Amish men and forcibly shaving off their beards because they weren't "the right kind of" Amish enough - they were arrested for hate crimes and will be tried.CapitalistPig said:Wow that could be game, set, match. But im fuzzy on what happens if your church breaks serious laws "in the name of god." so to speak. I mean its not like christians (or any religion) can smuggle guns, or drugs. So if your breaking international felonious laws what happens? Oh and dont drink their kool aid. We cant write them off as a cult yet.
OT: This just proves what I've always thought: religions are silly (though sometimes cute).
means then well, were no better then the rest.
The thing is this will not affect our laws at all, since our religions need to obey our laws.3AM said:I agree with you. Not about Swedish law - I'm ignorant of those though I always thought of Sweden as a more progressive country than the US - but about using religion for political ends. It pisses me off and scares me.CapitalistPig said:True but this isn't the U.S they could actually influence their country to gain more freedoms then are allowed in (my) our country. I dont really approve because frankly i think this misuse of "faith" is why our generation ends up looking down on religion so much. Religion is a mechanism for culture and coping during hard times and if people use if for political3AM said:In the US religions still have to obey the laws of the land, which is why religious zealots are fighting so hard to get religious laws on the books, like pro-life, school prayer, etc. Polygamists may be following their religion but if caught they are prosecuted. Same as with those Amish men in Ohio who were attacking other Amish men and forcibly shaving off their beards because they weren't "the right kind of" Amish enough - they were arrested for hate crimes and will be tried.CapitalistPig said:Wow that could be game, set, match. But im fuzzy on what happens if your church breaks serious laws "in the name of god." so to speak. I mean its not like christians (or any religion) can smuggle guns, or drugs. So if your breaking international felonious laws what happens? Oh and dont drink their kool aid. We cant write them off as a cult yet.
OT: This just proves what I've always thought: religions are silly (though sometimes cute).
means then well, were no better then the rest.
yea im with you there. its very reminiscent of days gone by when martin luther nailed his 99 thesis's to a church door (which was a good thing.) I mean misuse of religion is pretty much one of the worst routes to go to make a point valid. You win no kudos points and everyone resents you. worse, you gain power and people actually believe in you and then you must provide. It all ends bad down this road.3AM said:snip