Huh, fair enough.TheKasp said:Actually, the difference in release dates is an old pre-internet growth bullshit created by differences in US and Europe based on spending habits. In Us the assumption is that people get their paychecks on tuesdays and thus have more money in the pocket and are more willing to spend it (so new games release on tuesdays) while in Europe they somehow deduced that the spending is most frequent on Fridays (as in "I need something to do for the weekend, why not go out and buy a game on the way home).chadachada123 said:...What do you mean? The vast majority of release dates are decided by the publisher. You'd get the exact same thing with digital downloads if the publisher wanted (and has done, at least in respect to DLC).
In this case the people who are the middleman actually had the most influence (as in: retailers). The retailer actually do hold a lot of power over the publishers (stoopid reliance) and so DD has to suck up to (guess how happy GS would be if we Europeans would be able to get Dishonored and XCom on Steam since yesterday while everyone who wants a physical copy has to wait until friday?).
And the final question: If the publisher really had the total freedom to choose between a worldwide launch or regional launch where the piracy rate outside of the first reagon skyrockets (Dishonored already has a cracked XBox version and of course PC version, XCom as well. If I would not have any kind of standards I could be playing those by now) which one would they prefer?
So yes, I have to wait 3-4 days for Dishonored, XCom and both Pokemon games because publishers don't want to piss off ShitStop and other highstreet retailer.
Oh, not only that. But I also am allowed to enjoy watching a popup every now and then disclaiming that my buddy is playing Dishonored now. Or XCom...
How on earth did my name end up on that quote? I didn't say that, that was Beautiful End.Entitled said:I had the same PC for six years, and it used to cost me $300. It still playes almost everything, though sometimes I have to tone down the graphics settings until they look almost as ugly as on a console.Covarr said:Not only that but your computer turns obsolete after a couple of years. Yeah, a console does too but I'd rather spend, I don't know, 400 bucks on a console and be done with it than spend over $1000 on a console that requires a lot more maintenance.
On topic: It figures. Teenagers are dumb, and AAA games are dumb too.
Not true. Retail outlets are the ones who set dates for release in most instances. They strong-arm publishers into choosing a date that suits them or they don't carry the game. That's why different regions have different release dates. TB has gone over this a few times in his Mailboxes, I believe.chadachada123 said:...What do you mean? The vast majority of release dates are decided by the publisher. You'd get the exact same thing with digital downloads if the publisher wanted (and has done, at least in respect to DLC).TheKasp said:To be honest, better than rely on shitty stores that find it perfectly OK to dictate differences in release dates across the world (a little pissed that 4 games I'm getting this week are already out in the US since tuesday and I have to wat up to the weekend in 2 cases and friday the others).chadachada123 said:That...That IS the most gloomy part of the article, though!
Over 50% of teens are perfectly alright with trusting Microsoft/Nintendo/Sony with their games as opposed to the classic disc or cartridge model that lets you loan it to friends (or sell it to others). And that's a damn shame.
Call of Duty has choice and meaning? It's just a very pretty skinner box.laserwulf said:So, to summarize:
Teenage boys prefer high-quality games with meaningful choices over cartoony 'Skinner boxes'.
-Never- would've guessed. :|
I have a device that transfers radio frequency signals onto a needle and paper, so I guess that might be considered an analog download.I'd play more Facebook games if they weren't almost all crap. I've been gaming for around 24 years, and the only FB games I somewhat enjoy are Tetris Battle, You Don't Know Jack and Risk: Factions, all of which are based on full PC/console games. Once I realized that 'Ville games and the like have no negative consequences, and therefore have no challenge, choices became meaningless. I enjoy SimCity, but in the FB version a terribly planned city will function just as well as a meticulously tweaked one, just not grow as fast. Why -not- put an elementary school next to a prison? FB-Sims don't care!
Also, what the hell are digital downloads? Unless you have a device that transfers audio from radio stations onto a vinyl record, there's only one kind of download.
Unfortunately, ignorant consumers are abound.chadachada123 said:That...That IS the most gloomy part of the article, though!Marshall Honorof said:Of course, it's not all doom and gloom. 53.3% of teens have stated that they're ready to embrace digital downloads on their consoles of choice, which means that many younger gamers feel less dependent on the traditional brick-and-mortar retail system.
Over 50% of teens are perfectly alright with trusting Microsoft/Nintendo/Sony with their games as opposed to the classic disc or cartridge model that lets you loan it to friends (or sell it to others). And that's a damn shame.
Well first off, it's not the stores that dictate release dates. More importantly, though, hasn't this happened with digital games as well? I'm pretty sure it's becoming more common, so you're basically putting off the problem at best. And adding in new region locking procedures.TheKasp said:To be honest, better than rely on shitty stores that find it perfectly OK to dictate differences in release dates across the world (a little pissed that 4 games I'm getting this week are already out in the US since tuesday and I have to wat up to the weekend in 2 cases and friday the others).
I guess that's called growing up?SL33TBL1ND said:Not true. Retail outlets are the ones who set dates for release in most instances. They strong-arm publishers into choosing a date that suits them or they don't carry the game. That's why different regions have different release dates. TB has gone over this a few times in his Mailboxes, I believe.
As far as the article goes, as a teenager (18) I've found myself spending less and less time on my consoles and spending way more time playing on my PC. But whatever.
As I previously posted:Zachary Amaranth said:Well first off, it's not the stores that dictate release dates. More importantly, though, hasn't this happened with digital games as well? I'm pretty sure it's becoming more common, so you're basically putting off the problem at best. And adding in new region locking procedures. So...Ummm...Yay?
Basically, publishers give retail outlets a specific date which they can't sell before. What usually happens, though, is that retail outlets hold onto them until their designated "new-release" day. In the UK that's on a Friday usually and in the US it's usually a Tuesday. These retailers then tell publishers to restrict digital downloads to their dates for their respective region, or they refuse to sell the games.SL33TBL1ND said:Not true. Retail outlets are the ones who set dates for release in most instances. They strong-arm publishers into choosing a date that suits them or they don't carry the game. That's why different regions have different release dates. TB has gone over this a few times in his Mailboxes, I believe.
Because multi-platform games don't exist, amiright?Dark wolverine said:If there wasn't consoles, I would never have gotten into gaming. I still wouldn't play games if they only came on computer.
Computers only seem to have the most boring games around.
I don't care how popular games on computers are; RTS's have nothing compelling or relate-able, MMO's are doing 3 un-involving things over and over (by CLICKING, cause honestly what could be more engaging/stimulating than that?) and shooters are only doing ONE thing over and over.
Thank Christ somebody came up with the idea to make computers just for games and truly exploring what can be done with the ingenuity of the human mind
Sir, i applaud you, well said indeed.TheKasp said:Actually, the difference in release dates is an old pre-internet growth bullshit created by differences in US and Europe based on spending habits. In Us the assumption is that people get their paychecks on tuesdays and thus have more money in the pocket and are more willing to spend it (so new games release on tuesdays) while in Europe they somehow deduced that the spending is most frequent on Fridays (as in "I need something to do for the weekend, why not go out and buy a game on the way home).chadachada123 said:...What do you mean? The vast majority of release dates are decided by the publisher. You'd get the exact same thing with digital downloads if the publisher wanted (and has done, at least in respect to DLC).
In this case the people who are the middleman actually had the most influence (as in: retailers). The retailer actually do hold a lot of power over the publishers (stoopid reliance) and so DD has to suck up to (guess how happy GS would be if we Europeans would be able to get Dishonored and XCom on Steam since yesterday while everyone who wants a physical copy has to wait until friday?).
And the final question: If the publisher really had the total freedom to choose between a worldwide launch or regional launch where the piracy rate outside of the first reagon skyrockets (Dishonored already has a cracked XBox version and of course PC version, XCom as well. If I would not have any kind of standards I could be playing those by now) which one would they prefer?
So yes, I have to wait 3-4 days for Dishonored, XCom and both Pokemon games because publishers don't want to piss off ShitStop and other highstreet retailer.
Oh, not only that. But I also am allowed to enjoy watching a popup every now and then disclaiming that my buddy is playing Dishonored now. Or XCom...
Likewise.NinjaSocks333 said:As a 16 year old who owns a gaming PC, i find this sad but unsurprising.
This right here. WHY do people forget so quickly to include the PC when talking about AAA games? Sheesh.Covarr said:Misleading article title. The study shows that they prefer AAA games, not console games. Huge difference. Plenty of AAA games are on PC, and plenty of social games are on consoles. Angry Birds Trilogy, anyone?
P.S. Thanks