Teleportation, how would it work exactly?

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Inverse Skies

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Lots of sci-fi books and movies describe the process of warping/teleporting/jumping whatever they want to call it as a near instantaneous jump across space-time, either that or a process which significantly speeds up the travel time across the void of space. But what would it be like exactly? And how would it work?

There are so many variations on the simple concept, lets take a look at just a few of them;

Foldspace Engines, Frank Herbert's Dune Series: In the Dune series, only the richest in society can afford to teleport and it is confined to capital ships in space. These ships have engines which can fold the fabric of space linking one point to another. The problem is, if anything is in the way (planet, comet, star etc) the ship will smash into it and be disintegrated. To counter this, the Spacing Guild which has a monopoly on space transport uses Navigators, humans suspended in Melange Spice gas which gives them prescience, allowing them to see obstacles before they hit them and guide their ships around them.

Jaunting & Doorways, Stephen King's The Jaunt and Dark Tower Series: In the Jaunt, teleportation is accomplished by Jaunting, an instantaneous process. The twist on it though, is you have to be asleep to live through it. The theory behind it is that the physical part of you goes through alright, but your consciousness doesn't, it literally takes what seems like millions of years to pass through, aeons spent in white nothingness which sends you insane, then suddenly you're brought back to reality with a crash which kills you because of the shock, hence the need to be asleep. In the Dark Tower, Doors which look just like any other door link worlds and different times together, just step through one and you're in another world. It's simple and elegant.

Farcasting Dan Simmonds Hyperion Series. The Farcaster network is a network of portals developed by machine AI which links the 200 or so worlds of the Human Hegemony together into a cohesive network. People can live on one planet and work on another, they just Farcast to the other one like we'd get in a car to go to work. The richest members of the Hegemony have houses in which every room is on a different planet - all linked by Farcaster portals. The Hegemony has a river which runs through every planet, it flows into one Farcaster portal and out another. It's a really in-depth system which depicts teleportation as a way of life, just another thing humanity uses like we would cars.

So, how do you think teleportation would work? Available to everyone or restricted use? Commonplace in society or on capital ships only?

If you feel like contributing some other sci-fi examples please do, it's an interesting topic that can be seen in a lot of different lights.
 

bjj hero

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In the fly (I could be mistaken, ive not seen it in years) He is taken apart molecule by molecule and put back together at the other end.

Honestly, I think well be bending time space, quantum physics is working on it. It would also be highly restricted, there would be no point locking your door/car/bank if everyone could do it.
 

Zer_

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Conversion of matter into energy and vice versa. In Star Trek for example, their transporters convert the human body into energy and send that (radio wave style) to its destination to be transformed back into matter.
 

Jeronus

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I doubt the Auto and Travel Industry needs to start competing with teleportation.
 

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SuperFriendBFG said:
Conversion of matter into energy and vice versa. In Star Trek for example, their transporters convert the human body into energy and send that (radio wave style) to its destination to be transformed back into matter.
bjj hero said:
In the fly (I could be mistaken, ive not seen it in years) He is taken apart molecule by molecule and put back together at the other end.
Problem with that is the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, no-one can ever know exactly where a molecule is or how fast/what direct it's moving, the conversion back would be practically and theoretically impossible. Not even supercomputers can work it out....yet

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncertainty_principle

However bjj hero, bending time and space seems the more likely, just requires a lot of energy.
 

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Most realistic theories I've heard talk about basically cloning somebody in the exit teleporter and then destroying the original. So it's kinda like teleportation, but not really.
 

Aptspire

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We could always try and punch a hole in and out of this dimension, as in the Halo's Slipstream /Shaw-Fujikawa space
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Use the aperture Science's Portal device
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Input our consciousness in a dimensional traveler's body, as in H. P. Lovecraft
 

Abedeus

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Conversion of matter into energy sounds like the most plausible one.


But none of those proposed by you are even 50% safe... A huge margin of error would kinda narrow down the potential consumer base.
 

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I like my theory on how the Teleporters work in the Half-Life 2 universe, with all their special spinning properties.
I theorize that all physical objects have a specific constraint to this universe that has 100% influence on them remaining in their location in space, and the teleporters change that reference to themselves, (Telep. A) and electronically switch the one you're close to as the reference (Telep. A) to Telep. B, automatically and instantaneously translating your reference to the space, apart from time. Then the teleporter is switched off for a brief moment, relieving the device of the reference, back to the universe.
Summarically, you're an ant living on a rock. If the rock is electronically told it is now in a different location, you're instantly there too, because you the ant, are inextricably bound to the rock.
 

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Anarchemitis said:
I like my theory on how the Teleporters work in the Half-Life 2 universe, with all their special spinning properties.
I theorize that all physical objects have a specific constraint to this universe that has 100% influence on them remaining in their location in space, and the teleporters change that reference to themselves, (Telep. A) and electronically switch the one you're close to as the reference (Telep. A) to Telep. B, automatically and instantaneously translating your reference to the space, apart from time. Then the teleporter is switched off for a brief moment, relieving the device of the reference, back to the universe.
Summarically, you're an ant living on a rock. If the rock is electronically told it is now in a different location, you're instantly there too, because you the ant, are inextricably bound to the rock.
That's a pretty cool theory... I wonder how it avoids the problem of Xen though? In HL2 they were talking about how they have to swing past Xen and they figured out how they could do that... any idea how your version gets around the border world?
 

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Aptspire said:
We could always try and punch a hole in and out of this dimension, as in the Halo's Slipstream /Shaw-Fujikawa space
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Use the aperture Science's Portal device
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Input our consciousness in a dimensional traveler's body, as in H. P. Lovecraft
mm..but the last two examples aren't explained in great detail, if I recall correctly..Good ideas, though. especially the Shadow Out Of Time idea..you could..create specific organisms that could lie dormant for centuries, waiting for a host to take control.
 

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havent you watched star trek you can do it by scrambling atoms though the teleportain ah ray thing to the target
 

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The way it worked in the later books in the Ender's Game series is interesting. Basically, when we're born, our consciousnesses are pulled out of another dimension. If you could figure out how to get to that dimension two things would happen:
1)whatever your mind desires the most would become real, for better or worse (since this is the dimension where consciousnesses are formed, anything relating to that consciousness can from) and
2)you can reappear in this dimension wherever you want.

In order to do this, however, a hyper advanced, sentient, self formed AI, of which there was only one: Jane.
 

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I belive i have read somewhere that telportation is a reality, granted it was a single atom, which was actaully destroyed... But It worked... Not sure on the principles lets see if i can dig it up...

EDIT: Sorry That was About Quantum telportation which cannot trasmit matter but rather just the quantum structure or particles. Teleportation in the context of this thread is considered imposible as to travel at superluminal speeds (faster than the speed of light) with out wormholes is an impossiblity. And the existance of wormholes is also debateable. Let alone Controling/Surviving/Finding/Moving one.

EDIT: Sorry Again The particles were not destroyed in the process but infact changed into any of 4 of the 6 basic states of matter.

Solid,Liquid,Gas or Plasma the other two basic states are

Bose-Einstein condensates and Quark-gluon plasma;

There are plenty more, such as super-solid, super-fluids.

Yes those states have been made... Well Super-solids/fluids MAY be states of matter but not officialy as there are similar to solid/liquid but exposite enough differnces they Could Be classed as there own form of matter.
 

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"Teleportation" in the EVE universe is quite intresting... Apperently, there is some alien (or half-alien) race that has access to "regular" teleporation (as per normal sci-fi), whereas players can acquire something called "Jump Clones", where they can store a clone body at one place, go to another place, find a clone bay, use this clone bay to "jump" to their other clone body, leaving their first body behind (with all it's modifications such as skill-enhancing implants).

24 hours later, they can jump back the their original body if they so wish.
This is limited to "capsuleers" (players), which according to in game lore are "demigod"-like beings (through the eyes of an ordinary citizen), being able to use clones to cheat death, control huge ships with their minds and all that.

Atleast this is the only form of "teleporting" (aside from aforementioned "aliens") that existin the EVE universe as far as I know (I might be incredibly wrong though).
 

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I think all matter is inherently the same so it is merely a matter of having the properties of the particles on an object here transfer those properties to an object over there.

hell, that doesn't make sense at all, does it.
 

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I was orignally a fan of just sending over the data of the person to another place that they're going to, and just making a copy of them and delete the person on the sending end. Thus in basic principle having teleported the person and only needs the sending of a signel via some extremely high speed broadband.

This theory has 2 giant flaws that make it impossible though

1 - Its impossible to know a particles position and velocity at the same time so how you would copy something thats impossible to know would be a problem.

2 - It assumes that a person is completely made up of the physical atoms that construct them, and that all people are is an arrangement of atoms and therefore if you create the arrangement somewhere else then you have moved the person, or dulicated the person if you dont delete the original.
 

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savandicus said:
I was orignally a fan of just sending over the data of the person to another place that they're going to, and just making a copy of them and delete the person on the sending end. Thus in basic principle having teleported the person and only needs the sending of a signel via some extremely high speed broadband.

This theory has 2 giant flaws that make it impossible though

1 - Its impossible to know a particles position and velocity at the same time so how you would copy something thats impossible to know would be a problem.

2 - It assumes that a person is completely made up of the physical atoms that construct them, and that all people are is an arrangement of atoms and therefore if you create the arrangement somewhere else then you have moved the person, or dulicated the person if you dont delete the original.
Scary thing about that type, essentially, -you- die, yes, for all intents and purposes the duplicate is now you. But the really horrifying thing is this: Your conciousness? Isn't it gone forever?
 

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GothmogII said:
savandicus said:
I was orignally a fan of just sending over the data of the person to another place that they're going to, and just making a copy of them and delete the person on the sending end. Thus in basic principle having teleported the person and only needs the sending of a signel via some extremely high speed broadband.

This theory has 2 giant flaws that make it impossible though

1 - Its impossible to know a particles position and velocity at the same time so how you would copy something thats impossible to know would be a problem.

2 - It assumes that a person is completely made up of the physical atoms that construct them, and that all people are is an arrangement of atoms and therefore if you create the arrangement somewhere else then you have moved the person, or dulicated the person if you dont delete the original.
Scary thing about that type, essentially, -you- die, yes, for all intents and purposes the duplicate is now you. But the really horrifying thing is this: Your conciousness? Isn't it gone forever?
Well thats the thing as to what your conciousness is made up of, it all depends on whether a human being is a 100% physical being and therefore everything that is you, including your conciousness thoughts etc would be moved. However if there is a soul or some sort of spiritual side of life then you wouldnt be copying that with the reconstruction on the other side and the body you create there might just flop to the floor lifeless. What we need is rigorous scientific experimentation to find out the answer, and then we'd be one step closer to finding out more about ourselves. Shame the technology required is so far advanced that its impossible, not to mention possibly impossibly due to my first point in my early post.