That point when you just gave up.
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Mass Effect 3 has put me off of Mass Effect as a series, and not just because of the ending, it was just the final nail in the coffin for me. When I played Mass Effect 1 and 2 for the first time I loved them. It was only afterwards that I looked at the games and could pick apart all of the flaws in them. The first time I was too immersed to notice the issues, and that says a lot considering I don't know many other games where I can say that. Mass Effect 3 I had that viewpoint from the start. I was thrown out of immersion so often that it was not fun at all. The dialogue ranged from cheesy to ham fisted, the auto-dialogue was far too frequent, the plot points were lacking in finesse, the character relationships contradicted my player character and it was all jarring and felt as rushed as Dragon Age 2 albeit for different reasons.
I never saw the last season of the television show House because I just got sick of it. I hated all of the characters and I hated the lack of decent writing. I had only watched the two seasons before it out of a sense of duty, having seen all of the ones before it.
True Blood season 5. I liked the first two series, the third was okay and the fourth was pretty poor. I watched the first episode of season 5 thought "fuck this" and deleted it from my planner.
Microsoft/Xbox. I have already been getting a little tired of gaming overall, but when the new advertisement drenched marketplace arrived, it pretty much put the nail in the coffin for me, I am not paying money to be flooded with advertisements when there are also countless issues with the design, especially the search features. I sold almost all of my games, and my Live account is set so it won't renew. Once it expires the remaining games are being sold along with the console.
The increase in price was a killer for me as well. All non-miniature itens are around double the price than they were when I started, and all miniatures are at least a third more expensive. When you also include the frequent rule updates (with a nice new £20 rule book each time) it became ridiculous.
I never saw the last season of the television show House because I just got sick of it. I hated all of the characters and I hated the lack of decent writing. I had only watched the two seasons before it out of a sense of duty, having seen all of the ones before it.
True Blood season 5. I liked the first two series, the third was okay and the fourth was pretty poor. I watched the first episode of season 5 thought "fuck this" and deleted it from my planner.
Microsoft/Xbox. I have already been getting a little tired of gaming overall, but when the new advertisement drenched marketplace arrived, it pretty much put the nail in the coffin for me, I am not paying money to be flooded with advertisements when there are also countless issues with the design, especially the search features. I sold almost all of my games, and my Live account is set so it won't renew. Once it expires the remaining games are being sold along with the console.
I know the feeling, I collected 40K and LOTR rather than Fantasy, but that's more or less what happened to me. The paragraph quoted pretty much sums my opinion of them up.Katatori-kun said:
The increase in price was a killer for me as well. All non-miniature itens are around double the price than they were when I started, and all miniatures are at least a third more expensive. When you also include the frequent rule updates (with a nice new £20 rule book each time) it became ridiculous.
When they "killed" Tony Almeida and he didn't even get a silent clock ticking. I watched the beginning 5 minutes of the following ep to confirm he was dead, and after that I never watched 24 again. Yes, I know they brought him back to life a couple of seasons later, but that was even more idiotic than killing him. He also showed up as a bad guy, which was very meh.
Gave up after the arc about the Christian guru and Sano falling in love with that girl who dies tragically. I thought it was poorly handled and ridiculously brief after the Shishio or whatever his name is arc
Brock had been replaced with some dunce Tracy with no personality except for his annoying eagerness, and I was fed up with Ash befriending every single Pokemon he met rather than try and capture him. It was CATCH 'EM ALL, dammit, not BEFRIEND 'EM ALL. Also the Poke games on the GameBoy were more than fulfilling my Poke needs
The game is just too damn glitchy to play. I gave up 40% in, because of a chopper mission
Making my game:
I originally wanted to make an RPG similar to Chrono Trigger (In the battle system), but found that no one on the "team" (A few friends), myself included liked that type of system. The ATB system just isn't that great, and I was the only one that wanted to do a turn-based RPG.
The story revolved around one person who was sent to "Earth" from "Heaven" to "Help seal away a Demon", who met up with another fighter from "Heaven" who was sent to stop him and his boss, and is aided by another person who may or may not have been his love interest. (There's a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG Back story for everything in quotes)
The whole draw was going to be, you're in control of all 3 people at the same time, but my team wanted to turn it into a real time RPG (a la Star Ocean: Last Hope), which ended up turning into a God of War like Hack/Slash with RPG elements.
It didn't help that we tried to split up the level design between us (We'd all make different set pieces). I made the tutorial area with optional paths, and a few secrets, that still guided the player towards the exit.
My friend made a box with a staircase in the corner, and when I asked him about the rest of the level he got pissed and said that his level was better than mine.
After that I played Dark Souls, and wanted to make a game similar. Not difficulty wise, but style-wise(Think of the "slow" combat and the focus on dodging/blocking as opposed to simply hitting for high numbers). My team agreed to this. So I took my level layout and carefully placed enemies. While My friend took his and basically turned it into a hallway with rooms on each side. He basically made the layout to a hotel and called it a day.
We also made boss designs (mechanics at least): I came up with a rough sketch, a move list and explanation of each move and how the player is expected to counter it(If you're curious I'll post it some other time, since this is already running long... Rants, eh?). He came up with "He throws enemies at you", "Attack him until he's at 50% HP", "He throws more enemies at you" (Kind of like The Joker in Arkham Asylum)
It felt like we were working on two different games, but with the same story, setting, and characters
EDIT: We have other projects too. For example, this horror game we're working on. He wants my help to design it, but when we have time he decides, "You can't help design it, you're going to test it. If you help make it, it won't be scary for you."
I originally wanted to make an RPG similar to Chrono Trigger (In the battle system), but found that no one on the "team" (A few friends), myself included liked that type of system. The ATB system just isn't that great, and I was the only one that wanted to do a turn-based RPG.
The story revolved around one person who was sent to "Earth" from "Heaven" to "Help seal away a Demon", who met up with another fighter from "Heaven" who was sent to stop him and his boss, and is aided by another person who may or may not have been his love interest. (There's a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG Back story for everything in quotes)
The whole draw was going to be, you're in control of all 3 people at the same time, but my team wanted to turn it into a real time RPG (a la Star Ocean: Last Hope), which ended up turning into a God of War like Hack/Slash with RPG elements.
It didn't help that we tried to split up the level design between us (We'd all make different set pieces). I made the tutorial area with optional paths, and a few secrets, that still guided the player towards the exit.
My friend made a box with a staircase in the corner, and when I asked him about the rest of the level he got pissed and said that his level was better than mine.
After that I played Dark Souls, and wanted to make a game similar. Not difficulty wise, but style-wise(Think of the "slow" combat and the focus on dodging/blocking as opposed to simply hitting for high numbers). My team agreed to this. So I took my level layout and carefully placed enemies. While My friend took his and basically turned it into a hallway with rooms on each side. He basically made the layout to a hotel and called it a day.
We also made boss designs (mechanics at least): I came up with a rough sketch, a move list and explanation of each move and how the player is expected to counter it(If you're curious I'll post it some other time, since this is already running long... Rants, eh?). He came up with "He throws enemies at you", "Attack him until he's at 50% HP", "He throws more enemies at you" (Kind of like The Joker in Arkham Asylum)
It felt like we were working on two different games, but with the same story, setting, and characters
EDIT: We have other projects too. For example, this horror game we're working on. He wants my help to design it, but when we have time he decides, "You can't help design it, you're going to test it. If you help make it, it won't be scary for you."
Well, if you're thinking that this is the last leg of the race, then you're in for a hell of a long last leg. The author, Eiichiro Oda himself said that he already has the ending to One Piece planned out, and that's what has kept him writing for so long. So One Piece is all planned out. I don't ever see it going down the continuation for the sake of popularity route, especially considering that One Piece is pretty out there, and if it wanted to be intentionally popular, it probably would have taken a much more different approach, and would have tried to be more like what is currently "in", like ninjas and buster-blade wielding angsty dark edgy teens that have to be bad ass all the time.Keoul said:
And it was also stated by Oda that the series (as of the time-skip) is at about the halfway point, and that One Piece still has about a decade of story left. This is just my opinion right here, but I don't think that length makes a series bad. I think that One Piece does a great job of pacing itself, and is never trying to rush and make the characters super powerful in a super short amount of time like a lot of shonen anime like to do. I think that One Piece is still going strong, and will continue to move forward without growing dull, and from what Oda said, we are apparently in for one hell of an ending. One that apparently blows the ever popular Marineford War Arc out of the water.
As for progress, in the latest chapter it was just announced that the Strawhats and Heart Pirates Alliance are going to work together to take down the Yonko Kaido of the 100 Beasts. He's a pretty damn important guy, so this seem promising in terms of major plot advancement. And also, of course, Doflamingo is heading their way and what not, so things are about to get very hectic, very quickly.
Also, just a side note: The anime I kind of gave up on. They seriously need to condense that thing. I don't think the anime will ever be that great for as long as each episode has to fill a 24 miniute timeslot. It would be nice if they would just release a DVD that condenses the story to strictly follow the manga, with all the crap and filler cut out.
OT: I gave up on organized religion, as I feel that it has nothing to offer me, and it is slow to change because people like to always be by the book and resist any sort of progress or change, which often makes what they preach heavily outdated. I still practice my religion on my own though.
I'd read them, and I'm pretty sure that most people feel the same like me: needing a constant [citation needed]. I say don't stop doing that; those people are just not willing to read all the way through.rhizhim said:
The thing with drawing is that you need to go to the basics and go slow. I say take a break for a bit, then try drawing something small at first (for example, an apple) then you go into bigger and bigger projects. Oh, and study anatomy, that will help your drawing skills by a ton, specially if you are aiming to draw people. It'll take time, but if you're patient, it'll be worth it.Cowabungaa said:
I've been on a hate train with MS lately. Their customer service is some of the shoddiest I've seen (from my experiences), and there is no way I'll going to use Windows anymore if they continue this. Why, may you ask? Because all I need is a damn Windows 8 Pro upgrade download as I have the product key and the disks, but my disk drive has a problem. It's not opening. MS refused, and say pay up. And that was the last straw for me. I'm going to Linux only now, this is getting ridiculous.Legion said:
OT- I have both a high and low tolerance for bullshit. What does this mean? I'm willing to give things a chance, but if they blow it, they blew it quite spectacularly. A recent example would be Sword Art Online. A damned fine setting, but where it went disappointed me. Especially after Kirito gets out of the game Sword Art Online. I've got other issues, but, *sigh*.
Final Fantasy XIII- I got to grand pulse and just stopped. It did not get better it got worse.
XCOM- I enjoyed it but I just had no desier to play it.
Avatar: The Legend of Korra- I finished the whole series but I will not watch the show again. Imo all of the characters are inferior to those in the The Last Airbender and with the exception of Tensin I fould them all to be inoying.
The sword of Truth series- Made it half way into the 2nd book and just could not carry on.
XCOM- I enjoyed it but I just had no desier to play it.
Avatar: The Legend of Korra- I finished the whole series but I will not watch the show again. Imo all of the characters are inferior to those in the The Last Airbender and with the exception of Tensin I fould them all to be inoying.
The sword of Truth series- Made it half way into the 2nd book and just could not carry on.
Oh jeez... Let me count the ways.
Pokemon - My first big "I give up" moment. I was an obsessive Pokemaniac from ages 13 to 15. The obsession petered out as I got close to 16, but when I started to see the previews for Ruby/Sapphire and I realized that they were going to keep making new creatures and that the character designs were going to have to get more and more weird to keep up that momentum, I was like "yeah...I'm out..." I still enjoy the original generation. I've sunk dozens of hours into FireRed as a fun/nostalgia trip, but past Gold/Silver, I just can't bring myself to care.
I've brought this up on another thread and got jumped by newer-gen Pokemon defenders, so let me say this: I'm not AGAINST any of the creatures or games from Gen 3 forward. I haven't even played them, so I can't and won't judge them. I just don't care about them. I'm indifferent.
Dragon Ball Z - My newer obsession, from ages 16-20. I lost interest after I discovered that there is a lot of far superior anime out there. I still have my CCG cards and happily play the odd game with an old friend of mine, and I still have an attachment to the show in a nostaglic/campy sense, but going back to watch some of my old DBZ DVDs really cemented for me that I had outgrown it.
Final Fantasy - This one is borderline. I was a hardcore Final Fantasy devotee from ages 16-24. I've played all the (non-MMO) main-series games from start to finish as well as a number of the spin-offs, and I never felt that the series had jumped the shark. Then, similar to the DBZ situation, I started playing Western RPGs and games from non-RPG genres and realized that there were better fish in the sea. When Final Fantasy XIII landed, that was what put me on the edge. I don't think that it is as bad as many of its detractors believe; it was just a huge disappointment compared to the build-up, it had some serious design flaws (and I'm not even talking about the linearity, because I didn't mind that!) and most of all it didn't live up to its potential, especially where the story is concerned. Final Fantasy Versus XIII is Squeenix last chance to prove to me that they haven't lost it completely. If FFVersusXIII is bad, or never comes out, I'm done.
Pokemon - My first big "I give up" moment. I was an obsessive Pokemaniac from ages 13 to 15. The obsession petered out as I got close to 16, but when I started to see the previews for Ruby/Sapphire and I realized that they were going to keep making new creatures and that the character designs were going to have to get more and more weird to keep up that momentum, I was like "yeah...I'm out..." I still enjoy the original generation. I've sunk dozens of hours into FireRed as a fun/nostalgia trip, but past Gold/Silver, I just can't bring myself to care.
I've brought this up on another thread and got jumped by newer-gen Pokemon defenders, so let me say this: I'm not AGAINST any of the creatures or games from Gen 3 forward. I haven't even played them, so I can't and won't judge them. I just don't care about them. I'm indifferent.
Dragon Ball Z - My newer obsession, from ages 16-20. I lost interest after I discovered that there is a lot of far superior anime out there. I still have my CCG cards and happily play the odd game with an old friend of mine, and I still have an attachment to the show in a nostaglic/campy sense, but going back to watch some of my old DBZ DVDs really cemented for me that I had outgrown it.
Final Fantasy - This one is borderline. I was a hardcore Final Fantasy devotee from ages 16-24. I've played all the (non-MMO) main-series games from start to finish as well as a number of the spin-offs, and I never felt that the series had jumped the shark. Then, similar to the DBZ situation, I started playing Western RPGs and games from non-RPG genres and realized that there were better fish in the sea. When Final Fantasy XIII landed, that was what put me on the edge. I don't think that it is as bad as many of its detractors believe; it was just a huge disappointment compared to the build-up, it had some serious design flaws (and I'm not even talking about the linearity, because I didn't mind that!) and most of all it didn't live up to its potential, especially where the story is concerned. Final Fantasy Versus XIII is Squeenix last chance to prove to me that they haven't lost it completely. If FFVersusXIII is bad, or never comes out, I'm done.
I remember trying to watch Shaman King at one point. I gave up around episode 20. It seemed that every single villain until that point ended up joining them... I just wanted one villain to die. Any villain - I didn't care who. Eventually it got to a part that was really awesome and it seemed nothing but fitting for a massive fight resulting in a villains death... would you believe they end up having dinner!? 0.0
That when I thought "right, f*ck it - if all these rehabilitated villains turned on the good guys, they'd friggin deserve it!" I may have kept on watching if I found out that did happen - it would be a damn lot more interesting.
That when I thought "right, f*ck it - if all these rehabilitated villains turned on the good guys, they'd friggin deserve it!" I may have kept on watching if I found out that did happen - it would be a damn lot more interesting.
I started writing a long rant in this thread, but then I realized that it was a bunch of angry wording that no one else would really care about and comment on in a way beyond "Yeah, I get a similar feeling" or "nu uh."
Maybe it's time to give up on forums in general.
Maybe it's time to give up on forums in general.
60-odd hours into Dragon Age: Origins. My PS3 gets the yellow light of death and I lose my save (I'm pretty sure the saves for that game were copy-protected, and I didn't have any cloud to save them to at the time). I am stubborn and will persevere with almost everything I start, but I have NEVER gone back to Dragon Age since that.
I can't say I have ever given up on anything, but that is more because I am completely insane. When I encounter a retarded difficulty spike in a game, I don't ever cut my losses. I try and try and try again. This has led to me spending hours at a time trying to overcome some sort of menial task.
Bah! I've been saying that for the past 20 years. *shakes stick at the young whippersnapper*Katatori-kun said:
So actually, yeah, Nyall fucking Stormcaller. Came out in about 1993 iirc. WTF is this bullshit? I said to myself. Turning the Dark Angels into a bunch of Native Americans was weak enough, but now the space wolves have fucking viking shamans? Ghazghkull and Yarrick I could just about stomach, being the first I could always pretend they were a one off but this was just wretched. Bollocks. Bollocks to it all I said. Except Epic. Epic was at least small enough scale to not look too retarded.
Also resident evil 4. The second that squeaky midget popped up I said fuck this, I'm outta here and have never had the urge to pick up a resident evil game again.
I had a similar argument with someone stemming from the definition of the word 'atheist', as I classified myself as one (this was back before I became a Taoist) and was duly offended at him spamming simultaneously anti-religious and anti-atheist bullshit as though he's found some magical point of understanding and was a superior individual to us all.Eddie the head said:
Anyway, he was basically of the opinion that if I was an atheist, not only did I hold disbelief of God, but that I also was of the opinion that there could be nothing out in the universe more complex than humans or anything found on earth and was narrow minded and arrogant for taking the atheistic view of science.
I know the feeling, though I've stayed up to date on the newest season and I likely will throughout the series's run.SweetShark said:
I'm legitimately curious as to how you arrived at the conclusion that Steam "limits user choice."ScruffyMcBalls said:
Personally:
Shortly after the time the game opened up and let you explore Constantinople, I ventured into some underground mission (I think it was an Assassin tomb) where the objective was to sneak past a bunch of guards. However, this being Revelations, I was carrying around with me enough bullets and explosives to arm a third world revolution. I tried sneaking around and stuff, but once I ended up just perching in the rafters shooting all the guards, who were apparently too deaf to hear a series of massive percussions in an enclosed underground space. It was at that point that I realized the dev team for Revelations really had no idea what they were doing.
To a greater degree, it was when I realized that the AC franchise was officially going downhill.
To a greater degree, it was when I realized that the AC franchise was officially going downhill.
As I'm seeing quite a lot, the Bounto arc after they rescued Rukia was what caused a lot of people to get fed up with Bleach, and I'm no exception. I just got to episode 100 or so and I realized I was wondering what the point was.
When I couldn't figure out what the point was, it occurred to me that something was very wrong.
When I couldn't figure out what the point was, it occurred to me that something was very wrong.
I played Skyrim for about thirty hours, enjoying it quite thoroughly, before I just got to the point where the shitty programming (Seriously, Bethesda? How do you make something so unstable it CRASHES a PS3?), nonexistent writing, three voice actors, clunky combat, furiously anti-player lore, horrible button layout, and general piss-poor design decisions became all too apparent.
TV, unless someone else turns something decent on I really have no interest at most shows currently airing. I forget what stopped airing.
Capcom: all their Megaman hate and callous moves, they've promised to improve but I don't have high hopes.
Ninja Theory: their games were decent, mindless, action-types games with heavy, crappy stories, but then DmC came out.
Steam: came close with controllers only working some of the time and then I got Bioshock without knowing about the issue. I haven't completely given up, but I am close.
Capcom: all their Megaman hate and callous moves, they've promised to improve but I don't have high hopes.
Ninja Theory: their games were decent, mindless, action-types games with heavy, crappy stories, but then DmC came out.
Steam: came close with controllers only working some of the time and then I got Bioshock without knowing about the issue. I haven't completely given up, but I am close.
Adding some to the one I posted already:
- The Dune series after Children of Dune the series dunked itself in an even more hefty pool of esoterics. Too much for my taste.
- The moment I saw the Rebel Flagship for the first time in FTL was the moment I said "Nope. Nevermind."
- After the third bullshit episode of Revolution I gave up on that show. Good gods do the characters suck.
- I gave up on elaborate discussions on the internet a few years ago. After doing craptons of research and whatnot for certain arguments, like convincing a conspiracy theorist the moon landings were real (which I did convince him of) I just reflected, compared the benefits against the insane amounts of effort involved and just thought "Fuck this."
- The Dune series after Children of Dune the series dunked itself in an even more hefty pool of esoterics. Too much for my taste.
- The moment I saw the Rebel Flagship for the first time in FTL was the moment I said "Nope. Nevermind."
- After the third bullshit episode of Revolution I gave up on that show. Good gods do the characters suck.
- I gave up on elaborate discussions on the internet a few years ago. After doing craptons of research and whatnot for certain arguments, like convincing a conspiracy theorist the moon landings were real (which I did convince him of) I just reflected, compared the benefits against the insane amounts of effort involved and just thought "Fuck this."
Yeah patience, sadly, isn't a virtue of mine. But that's one of my problems as well; I have no idea what the basics are and what sort of exercises I can do. Or how I can study anatomy. I mean, I can look at a skeleton and remember every bone but for some reason I doubt that that's what meant with studying anatomy for the sake of drawing. Frankly I just have no idea what to do.thesilentman said:
I stopped Dedicated TV watching. The only thing I used to look forward to watching on TV was Xplay but with Directv and all. Then I got into watching a few actual shows but I DVR them so I don't think it counts.
I gave up on most Multiplayer games after brief sessions when I realized I just wasn't enjoying myself.
I gave up on most Multiplayer games after brief sessions when I realized I just wasn't enjoying myself.