The 8th generation arrived.....last year.
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Your analogy made me laugh, but I can still improve upon it.Guitarmasterx7 said:
Again you're a young lady at the beach, only the PS3 and 360 are two 17 year old jocks, wrestling with eachother, while the wii, an 11 year old kid, is building a sand castle. The PC is your middle aged dad. Who will you date and why?
Heh, I was going to suggest that too. The shorter your flight path, the more dangerous it is, the bigger your balls, the more bragging rights you get. Though I'm not sure how long a parsec actually is or what the Kessel Run actually looks like to determine if 12 parsecs is an appropriate distance for such a run.teebeeohh said:
On topic: I think the reason people don't really associate the WiiU with gen8 is that it's more comparable to the PS3 and 360 than it will be to the PS4 and 180. I do think of it as gen8, but also that the gen8 party hasn't started yet. Nintendo just arrived early.
If Nintendo did that then we might actually consider them next gen. Defend them all you like, Nintendo has almost no third party support for the very reasons espoused in this thread. They are too far behind the curve technologically for Moore's law to even remotely apply to them. You look forward to the next Mario, Zelda, or Metroid. I'll stick to my PC, which IS upgradeable, and the true next gen consoles that at least attempt to keep up with current technological trends for higher graphic fidelity, more interative environments, and overall increased immersion. I am looking forward to the next 2 years of gaming simply because major developers will not feel nearly so bottlenecked whenever a console port of a PC game is requested.nima55 said:
Isnt that how console generations were always defined? New consoles alwaysa having new tech that allows for new, better games, yadda yadda...KazeAizen said:
Who cares what generation they call it... just buy what ever you want.
Personally I'm sticking with my PC/WII U combo so I'll get the best combination of great games. I might pick up one of the other two later on if some decent exclusives turn up and catch my eye.
If anyone does/doesn't buy hardware based on a number assigned to it but somebody online, then they don't deserve to play decent games anyway.
Personally I'm sticking with my PC/WII U combo so I'll get the best combination of great games. I might pick up one of the other two later on if some decent exclusives turn up and catch my eye.
If anyone does/doesn't buy hardware based on a number assigned to it but somebody online, then they don't deserve to play decent games anyway.
Time to fart in the wind.
I'll give you my favorite reasons people say WiiU is last gen: To make fun of it/Nintendo, thereby angering strangers on the internet. We gamers are brand loyal (I know I am) so it's fun to create us/them scenarios where we win. And lastly, because a video game generation is not a legally defined term, we can say whatever we want and no one can prove us wrong (much like 3G and 4G).
In my ever-so-humble opinion, I think it will be part of the 8th gen, but not until the 8th gen starts. I think we're still in the 7th gen until a decent chunk of releases are on the new consoles which won't start until the 'bone and PS4 are out. If, however, Nintendo releases another console four or five years before Microsoft or Sony (possible, if unlikely) we will probably all in retrospect have to consider the WiiU to be 7.5.
I'll give you my favorite reasons people say WiiU is last gen: To make fun of it/Nintendo, thereby angering strangers on the internet. We gamers are brand loyal (I know I am) so it's fun to create us/them scenarios where we win. And lastly, because a video game generation is not a legally defined term, we can say whatever we want and no one can prove us wrong (much like 3G and 4G).
In my ever-so-humble opinion, I think it will be part of the 8th gen, but not until the 8th gen starts. I think we're still in the 7th gen until a decent chunk of releases are on the new consoles which won't start until the 'bone and PS4 are out. If, however, Nintendo releases another console four or five years before Microsoft or Sony (possible, if unlikely) we will probably all in retrospect have to consider the WiiU to be 7.5.
These days people always judge machines by their specs. It's the same reason why people will flock to stores every year to buy a new smartphone even though the one they have is perfectly functional. The only good thing that comes from this mindless pursuit of upgrading to the latest hardware is that it forces idiots to pump millions of dollars into the economy. Me, I don't upgrade unless it includes a feature that actually would be useful (like the iPhone 5S's fingerprint scanner).
The same thing applies to video game consoles. The Xbox One can have all the pretty polygons and Kinect stuff it wants, but if I don't see a game I like I ain't buying it. For those wondering I am planning on buying a PS4 because of Kingdom Hearts 3 and Final Fantasy XV. And the Wii U? Well I love me some Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong, and all that other jazz so heck yeah I bought one. It's also my console of choice for any indie games since I can play on the Gamepad while watching Netflix on the big screen.
As for whether the Wii U is 8th gen or not, I say it is. The argument over whether a game is "next gen" because of its release date OR its specs is stupid. Why? Because the answer is that it is based on release date AND specs. A next generation console is one that releases at a date around the time of its competitors and is superior to its predecessor spec-wise in some degree. The Wii U was released last year and is more powerful than the last generation consoles, if only by a small margin. Unless some angel descends from heaven with a message from God saying "The Wii U is henceforth to be considered a 7th generation console" then it's not going to change.
The same thing applies to video game consoles. The Xbox One can have all the pretty polygons and Kinect stuff it wants, but if I don't see a game I like I ain't buying it. For those wondering I am planning on buying a PS4 because of Kingdom Hearts 3 and Final Fantasy XV. And the Wii U? Well I love me some Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong, and all that other jazz so heck yeah I bought one. It's also my console of choice for any indie games since I can play on the Gamepad while watching Netflix on the big screen.
As for whether the Wii U is 8th gen or not, I say it is. The argument over whether a game is "next gen" because of its release date OR its specs is stupid. Why? Because the answer is that it is based on release date AND specs. A next generation console is one that releases at a date around the time of its competitors and is superior to its predecessor spec-wise in some degree. The Wii U was released last year and is more powerful than the last generation consoles, if only by a small margin. Unless some angel descends from heaven with a message from God saying "The Wii U is henceforth to be considered a 7th generation console" then it's not going to change.
Basically, this.yesbag said:
In fact, probably many of you here are too young to remember, but the definition of a "generation" based on hardware started since the time of the NES and Master System. When the MegaDrive (Genesis) was released, the fact that it was a 16-Bit console was spread to the four corners of the earth like it was something amazing. Seriously, it was *so* important that it is written at the top of the console itself! Do you have any idea of ​​how important it was to get to be part of the design of the very thing? Please!
The SuperNes didn't do the same, but in the advertisements it was also heavily touted the fact of being a 16-bit console, the millions of colors that it could use simultaneously and so many other things. With the arrival of the Playstation and Saturn the same thing happened again: the magazines highlighted the incredible potential of 32-bit video games and its three-dimensional games. (Although games like StarFox existed on the SNES already.) Again, all the weight was on hardware and specifically, in bits.
The last console trying to define a generation based on "bits " was, obviously, the Nintendo 64. It tried to put itself as part of a distinct generation of the others, but the design choices of Nintendo (the use cartridges instead of CDs as media for example) ended up making the N64 become an eccentric console, not exactly comparable to the others. That, of course, has become kind of a trend thereafter.
From this point on, I think we all remember. The XBOX and PS2 were clearly superior and, therefore, considered as a new generation. The power of consoles is and always has been the determining factor in the change of generations, especially the huge advance in *graphic* (yes , the frist true graphic wh*res were the console gamers) that has always distinguished the games of a new generation. That has always been the fundamental distinction between each generation in advertisements: the games of the new generation would be "incredibly" (well, not really) more beautiful than the later generation.
So I guess that's why many people don't really consider the WIIU as a new generation; simply because it isn't and will never be able to change the graphics level of what can be seen in the current generation consoles. It's at the same level. The PS4 and Xbox1 are obviously more powerful and, because of that, will raise the visuals of games released from now on. Hardware, as always, is the basis of the change. I'm not saying that this differentiation between the consoles is necessary or even useful. I'm just saying that's how it always was.
Because the Wii U doesn't exist at the escapist.
Look at all the coverage it gets here.
Or how often polls on this site fail to include it as an option.
People are more likely to consider the 3DS Nintendo's 8th generation console over the WiiU.
The only thing that gets less recognition is mobile gaming.
Look at all the coverage it gets here.
Or how often polls on this site fail to include it as an option.
People are more likely to consider the 3DS Nintendo's 8th generation console over the WiiU.
The only thing that gets less recognition is mobile gaming.
Pretty much sums it up.yesbag said:
Incidentally, I will be buying a Wii U, because I missed out on the Wii and have quite a few games I'd like to try- Xenoblade, Last Story, Skyward Sword, etc. Not to mention I can play Wind Waker HD, Monolith Soft's X, the new Wii U Zelda when that comes out...
Sounds like a good deal.