Well, if they were doing that on purpose, it's one of the weirder platforms for such an agenda I have seen. Weirder even than 80s cartoons which were rife with marketing scams and the entire GI Joe franchise which was a thinly veiled recruitment propaganda piece.Hawki said:I saw this movie earlier in the week. It was the worst film I've seen in cinemas all year, and that, let me assure you, is some impressive company in the bottom 10 list. What's a shame is that unlike some of those films, I actually had high hopes for this.
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-Something that bugs me a lot is the notion of a film being too late to cash in on something, i.e. people saying that the Warcraft movie should have come out years ago. And to that, I say, why? Was Lord of the Rings too late for the novel? Was The Chronicles of Narnia? Was Jumanji too late (i.e. the film came out 15 years after the book was published). I'd say, no. A good film is a good film, regardless of when its source material was created. Not that Angry Birds is a good film by any means, but yeah.
-Something I noticed, and I know I'm not the only one who did...is this a commentary on the War on Terror? Let me explain:
You have a society of birds that love peace, freedom, and everything else. They're a nation that looks up to a bald eagle. Pigs come, one of them bearing a big black beard, and are welcomed into their society. The pigs then destroy their society using explosives. The bald eagle is looked to, but he's incompetent. The birds then launch total war on the pigs, reducing their nation to rubble, and leaving said nation in ruins after pulling out.
...Am I the only one who got a vibe of anti-immigration, pro-war in this? Or am I giving the film way too much credit?
Edit: Yep, definately not the only one.
...what?Marter said:The Angry Birds Movie had all the potential in the world.
The Lord of the Rings and Chronicles of Narnia are greatly respected classics that have been read and referenced and debated for pretty much their entire published history. Jumanji probably had an advantage that few would know it was a book (I certainly didn't, so thanks for that ) and thus were able to let the film raise or fall on the merits of it's cast and content rather than expectations.Hawki said:-Something that bugs me a lot is the notion of a film being too late to cash in on something, i.e. people saying that the Warcraft movie should have come out years ago. And to that, I say, why? Was Lord of the Rings too late for the novel? Was The Chronicles of Narnia? Was Jumanji too late (i.e. the film came out 15 years after the book was published). I'd say, no. A good film is a good film, regardless of when its source material was created. Not that Angry Birds is a good film by any means, but yeah.
And that's precisely why it had such potential. When the only previously established elements in the film are the setup and visual design, you have unlimited freedom in everything else. Lord of the Rings, Assassin's Creed and Warcraft all have years of established characters, lore, plot elements, villains that are inextricably linked to the franchises. This limits the storytelling potential, when there are elements people expect to be like they are in the source material. But when such expectations aren't in place, you can basically make the central plot about anything, as long as it features birds thrown from slingshots to bring down buildings at some point.MeatMachine said:...what?Marter said:The Angry Birds Movie had all the potential in the world.
How exactly do you rationalize that statement? Angry Birds, as a feature-length movie, had basically 0 source material to work with. At best, it was a frustrating F2P mobile game with easily-recognizable (if undeveloped) character designs. So yeah... coasting off of familiarity and brand power alone, basically.
The lego movie was pretty much in the same position, and look how that turned out. Creativity and effort can wring a lot out of nothing.MeatMachine said:...what?Marter said:The Angry Birds Movie had all the potential in the world.
How exactly do you rationalize that statement? Angry Birds, as a feature-length movie, had basically 0 source material to work with. At best, it was a frustrating F2P mobile game with easily-recognizable (if undeveloped) character designs. So yeah... coasting off of familiarity and brand power alone, basically.
You're in luck, my friend, for the Tetris movie is actually planned to be an epic sci-fi trilogy.Parasondox said:Can't wait for the Tetris movie...
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Well... I need stronger drugs.RJ 17 said:You're in luck, my friend, for the Tetris movie is actually planned to be an epic sci-fi trilogy.Parasondox said:Can't wait for the Tetris movie...
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That... that's not even how birds work.Marter said:Watching an obese eagle urinate into a pond for 15 seconds....
The thing is, The Lord of the Rings kept coming back into popular culture. The counterculture movement of the 60s empathized with Bilbo and Frodo and saw echoes of anti-war and environmentalist ideas in the books. The 70s saw Gygax et. al. do a thin coat of paint over large parts of the setting and turn it into Dungeons and Dragons. The 80s had a pair of animated movies. Even without the Peter Jackson movies, people would still probably be discussing LoTR today.Hawki said:-Something that bugs me a lot is the notion of a film being too late to cash in on something, i.e. people saying that the Warcraft movie should have come out years ago. And to that, I say, why? Was Lord of the Rings too late for the novel? Was The Chronicles of Narnia? Was Jumanji too late (i.e. the film came out 15 years after the book was published). I'd say, no. A good film is a good film, regardless of when its source material was created. Not that Angry Birds is a good film by any means, but yeah.
Casablanca? No. The Lego Movie, or any other decent animated movie in recent times? I think that's reasonable.RobAlister said:I don't understand what people were expecting. It's based off of a game where you fling birds at pigs. Did people really expect the movie adaptation to be up there with Casablanca?
Europe is at an interesting crossroads, I agree there. However, few problems with this analogy:Pinky said:Lets say a pig had been the protagonist and helped the birds get the eggs back, with the overwhelming majority of pigs still being evil. What would have been different? Pigs are still mostly evil, violence is still the solution. Just this time pigs are clearly white people, so that makes it okay?
I have some problems seeing the difference, just as I have a problem with people being able to declare European colonization and cultural replacement as bad while declaring nearly the same thing happening in Germany as good (that is not some conspiracy theory, at current rates the entire young adult age bracket will become majority Muslim in a few years, which will eventually work it's way throughout the entire age pyramid obviously).
PS. one of the bumper stickers in the movie was a pig version of the Coexist bumper stickers ... it definitely is a thinly veiled parable for what is happening in Europe. Its message is desperately needed. Either the Geneva convention on refugees gets a massive work over soon or western Europe will become Islamic within little more than a single generation (and probably suffer economic collapse from white flight and/or civil wars).