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So Labyrinth rocks. Some of that stuff looks amazing. The expressions, the body language, the shading... Brilliant.
Shirahime is easily better than the artists in some of the published manga I've read. It's got a clean, high-quality feel to it.
When I loaded Alliecat's DA page, I actually said "what the hell". That stuff looks professional. I'd accuse her of plagiarism if there wasn't so much of it.
Ares is really quite good. I like the first one the most, which is odd, since there's supposed to be some degree of atrophy after eight months. You should draw more often.
Personally, I write a little, but it's all stories and such. Nothing of a postable size.
Shirahime is easily better than the artists in some of the published manga I've read. It's got a clean, high-quality feel to it.
When I loaded Alliecat's DA page, I actually said "what the hell". That stuff looks professional. I'd accuse her of plagiarism if there wasn't so much of it.
Ares is really quite good. I like the first one the most, which is odd, since there's supposed to be some degree of atrophy after eight months. You should draw more often.
Personally, I write a little, but it's all stories and such. Nothing of a postable size.
Ares Tyr, your anime skills have blown me away. I would very much like some tips on how to draw muscles the way you do. I probably won't be able to, not if it requires any form of natural artistic skill, but my brother would probably appreciate it. He thought your stuff was ridiculously good, too.
NewClassic, your comic book-type style is astounding. I love the way you do shadowing, and I'd like to know if you have any sort of technique that I may shamelessly copy. Again, like I said to Ares Tyr, I probably won't have a chance with it, but my brother is quite good at art, and the pointers would be a lot of help.
Labyrinth, you get no kudos. You are clearly some sort of machine, or genetic experiment, designed to draw so well that it just becomes unfair. I blame science. Blast you, science!
Have any of you guys gone to art school? Or are you self-taught?
NewClassic, your comic book-type style is astounding. I love the way you do shadowing, and I'd like to know if you have any sort of technique that I may shamelessly copy. Again, like I said to Ares Tyr, I probably won't have a chance with it, but my brother is quite good at art, and the pointers would be a lot of help.
Labyrinth, you get no kudos. You are clearly some sort of machine, or genetic experiment, designed to draw so well that it just becomes unfair. I blame science. Blast you, science!
Have any of you guys gone to art school? Or are you self-taught?
Seriously. Nobody can be that well-learned, well-spoken, skilled at instrument(s), a great artist, and yet be that young.Monkfish Acc. post=18.72805.782767 said:
She's a robot. Or a witch. Or a robot witch.
Well I haven't drawn anything by hand in ages, the last time I drew anything would have been these odd ships I drew for a science fiction story I was attempting to write at the time (geeky I know)
[http://imageshack.us]
Allfather isn't a christian thing, it's one of the many names for Odin (A Norse god for those not in the know)
[http://imageshack.us]
Sigurd is another Norse thing, there was an underlying Norse theme to everything.
Recently I took one of the old pictures (these are all at least two years old) and attempted something in photoshop.
[http://imageshack.us]
Yeah it's another Norse thing.
Allfather isn't a christian thing, it's one of the many names for Odin (A Norse god for those not in the know)
Sigurd is another Norse thing, there was an underlying Norse theme to everything.
Recently I took one of the old pictures (these are all at least two years old) and attempted something in photoshop.
Yeah it's another Norse thing.
Goodness knows I wouldn't want to see that outside my window in the morning.The Iron Ninja post=18.72805.782854 said:Well I haven't drawn anything by hand in ages, the last time I drew anything would have been these odd ships I drew for a science fiction story I was attempting to write at the time (geeky I know)
[http://imageshack.us]
Allfather isn't a christian thing, it's one of the many names for Odin (A Norse god for those not in the know)
[http://imageshack.us]
Sigurd is another Norse thing, there was an underlying Norse theme to everything.
Recently I took one of the old pictures (these are all at least two years old) and attempted something in photoshop.
[http://imageshack.us]
Yeah it's another Norse thing.
Yeah I'm still stubbornly holding on to my story too, I occasionally add a sentence or two every few weeks.RAKtheUndead post=18.72805.782878 said:
To be fair the same could be said for anything else with guns on it.meatloaf231 post=18.72805.782870 said:
Love it! It's so striking. My band is in the middle of making an EP/demo...would it be crazy to ask to use that as a cover?smallharmlesskitten post=18.72805.773603 said:
A wiiitch! Burn her! Buuuurn her!meatloaf231 post=18.72805.782783 said:
...she drew me as a newt!
...She got better
Really, you are really good Labyrinth.
Uh, the way I shade? It's all hatching work, which is using thin lines in a set pattern to produce shading. Assuming I'm shading a whole piece, I just designate an area that will be darker, line it off, and re-hatch with darker lines.Monkfish Acc. post=18.72805.782767 said:
It takes some getting used to, but it's highly effective. Although if you really want someone to mimic, look at my dad's work [http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a395/NewClassic/JerrfreyTree.jpg]. It's hard as hell, and incredibly meticulous and times-taking, but the result is near-perfect.
Note that each line shows a direction of hatching, and careful but consistent shade and darkness of the lines. It's really hard to describe, just know that the style is hatching, and that the work is very detail-oriented and slow.
Very slow.
To Ares Tyr, my Triumvirate Buddy:
Your style is nice, but a bit sketchy. The musculature, as said, it really good. The only thing I can think of is anatomy overall. You seem to miss some of the junction of bones and joints. The body-parts individually look right, but combined they seem... disjointed. As if they've been placed wrong. Think about the entire skeleton when drawing, and the pose-work helps if you mimic the pose yourself. You have a lot to learn from references, so don't be afraid to look them up when drawing. Also, when you don't reference, feel free to shade. It really helps in giving the pieces depth. Also, action, although we talked about that in length already.
To RAKtheUndead:
It's not an offense so much as it is civil disobedience. Not sure if art is anything other than a hobby, so I hesitate in really saying as much as I could. The pieces show a certain attention to detail, but a lack of practice. The only thing that tells me is you think hard on what you're drawing, but still haven't learned how to draw. It's a practiced trait, just like any other, so you can really get a lot from it by practicing. My suggestion is simply drawing things you see. Don't get so hung-up on details at first. Go sit somewhere and draw what you see. A tree, a ball, a swingset-set, a serial rapist. Maybe a houseplant, or a refrigerator.
Look at what shapes make up this object, and how they're assembled. Draw the basic shapes, without worrying about too much detail. Once that's done, do they look similar? Different? How? Think about these things, and draw them again with more detail. Try getting the surface details down. When you've done it enough times, it becomes second nature. Keep going, keep observing, and keep drawing. They'll start looking better with time.
Also, another point I'd like to really drive home: Draw what you see. Don't draw what you think is there. Pretend this object is completely foreign to you. Draw it exactly as you see it. Don't draw what you think it is, draw it exactly as you observe it. It helps, trust me.
To FeNinja, my other Triumvirate Member:
Lots of Norse mythology to go around. That's some very angular stuff you've got going there. Very sharp, lots of hard lines. Don't think there's much else to say. That far back you can't see much detail. Maybe if the third dimension was represented a little more clearly, I could say more. You could learn a lot from both observation and from the things I've said to RAK. It's all questions of polish.
TO EVERYONE:
Don't take these as insults. I've been critical of art-work (therefore, an art critic) for most of my life, both as a child and an adult. So I come out really hitting home on the negative. My apologies, but it's something I can't hardly help. Still you all do good work, and none of you stop drawing, ever.
The Triumvirate of Evil.the monopoly guy post=18.72805.782939 said:
The Unholy Alliance of NewClassic, Ares Tyr and Myself.
I just thought about it, turns out the acronym for our evil Triumvirate is T.O.E
So with that in mind, here's the banner for our shadowy organisation.
And on topic... uh, I made this thing ^
Read from here [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/jump/18.69872.678745].the monopoly guy post=18.72805.782939 said:
Let's hear a round of applause for the wonderfully alert Ares.Ares Tyr post=18.72805.783137 said:
Oh gosh, you've found me out. Well, that's it for this universe. I guess I'll just call up the Doctor and be off to another one. Get my freak arse out of here.meatloaf231 post=18.72805.782783 said:
That's some pretty awesome stuff there, even if it was done in photoshop. Excellent use of that one bit of colour. Really focuses the eye there.Zemalac post=18.72805.782911 said:Well, I don't have much of my stuff at hand, but I suppose I could put up something...
I'd love to claim that I inked this by hand. Most of it was done in Photoshop (man, I love that program).
Again, nice work. I definitely prefer the Planet one, because for some odd reason the whole astrology and planets fascinates me. Good strength in the details, and use of light.Landslide post=18.72805.782944 said:Here's an illustration:
Here's a planet:
NewClassic, your dads work is fantastic. Hatching is a ***** at the best of times, and the patience that must go into that is phenomenal. Textures are just irritating for the most part, one advantage of using thick-weave paper.
I'm self-taught. For the most part it was just a matter of learning to look at things in a different way, and teach my hand to follow the shapes I saw.
And really, for those who think I draw the best of anything, you should see this [http://fc62.deviantart.com/fs31/i/2008/202/4/e/Paul_Newman_by_Hongmin.jpg] on DeviantArt. It breaks my artistic ego into a million glittery pieces.
Since everyone is asking for opinions here are mine:
I was totally in that boat.
Most of the sketches/ Drawings I have seen on this thread are totally what I have done (and did on my own for fun) in High school and College. If you keep drawing, you'll watch yourself progress and amaze yourself (I did that to myself. Would start drawing, and then coming back to it a day later would go- wtf? I did that?!)
Well, off topic- here we go.
Labrynth: Your Shading and contrasting is really good. You have lights and darks down. Are you using a live model for these pictures, or a magazine picture? Magazine are flat, and flatten out the model, so sometimes, the translation can get skewered- watch out!
Don't be afraid to either get rid of all your lines, or translate everything into line work. (the lack of definition around your face in the profile picture could be worked a bit more)
Ares tyr: (D&D name?): You have really good ideas! You are good at translating what you see onto paper. The trick with anime art is, as with all art, when you are going to deform the human body in the name of a style, you have to know how to form the human body first. Study the human body/shape/anatomy a bit more, and you will notice your anime style becoming more developed (in the way you want)
For other photoshop users: Be warned! Filters aren't that cool. They are a trap!
I was totally in that boat.
Most of the sketches/ Drawings I have seen on this thread are totally what I have done (and did on my own for fun) in High school and College. If you keep drawing, you'll watch yourself progress and amaze yourself (I did that to myself. Would start drawing, and then coming back to it a day later would go- wtf? I did that?!)
Well, off topic- here we go.
Labrynth: Your Shading and contrasting is really good. You have lights and darks down. Are you using a live model for these pictures, or a magazine picture? Magazine are flat, and flatten out the model, so sometimes, the translation can get skewered- watch out!
Don't be afraid to either get rid of all your lines, or translate everything into line work. (the lack of definition around your face in the profile picture could be worked a bit more)
Ares tyr: (D&D name?): You have really good ideas! You are good at translating what you see onto paper. The trick with anime art is, as with all art, when you are going to deform the human body in the name of a style, you have to know how to form the human body first. Study the human body/shape/anatomy a bit more, and you will notice your anime style becoming more developed (in the way you want)
For other photoshop users: Be warned! Filters aren't that cool. They are a trap!