You've got to remember that we needed our tea and the opium wars were clearly the only logical solution to maintaining the British supply!Andy Beaumont said:
The Atrocities of Your National Heritage... This is a Fun Thread! :D
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Nope, your definition of genocide is false. Genocide is the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group. Neanderthals simply Evolved or where breed out. Nether condition satisfies the definition of genocide.thaluikhain said:
Too bad. Sins of the father and all that.DeliciousTruffle said:
OT: I'm american, so I get blamed for pretty much every bad thing in the world anyway. I'm sure at least a quarter of this site thinks that the Great Wall was built to keep the US from invading China.
We had a president who defied the supreme court to force natives from working the land that they rightly owned on a death march to the desert, killing thousands. And now, his face is on the $20 bill.
Hmm.
My heritage is Welsh, Irish, English, Scottish, and a little bit of Mongolian blood in there too.
So I guess technically ancestorially the worst atrocity would be the whole Genghis Khan thing, mixed in with a little of the British Empire and some of the good old Irish Troubles to boot.
But then again, that also means that hereditarially (I'm enjoying these words) I also oppressed myself pretty badly on three separate occasions, so do I balance out?
Not that I subscribe to the idea of cultural guilt anyway, I think it's ridiculous
My heritage is Welsh, Irish, English, Scottish, and a little bit of Mongolian blood in there too.
So I guess technically ancestorially the worst atrocity would be the whole Genghis Khan thing, mixed in with a little of the British Empire and some of the good old Irish Troubles to boot.
But then again, that also means that hereditarially (I'm enjoying these words) I also oppressed myself pretty badly on three separate occasions, so do I balance out?
Not that I subscribe to the idea of cultural guilt anyway, I think it's ridiculous
That stuff is vile and your country should feel ashamed for inflicting it upon the world.SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
Daystar Clarion said:Oh the shame of it all.Daystar Clarion said:You think that's bad?SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
I'm surprised we're not on trial for crimes against humanity.
I personally despise marmite. I also hate it's advertising. It is not a love or hate thing I know 3 or 4 people who are completely indifferent to the stuff.
Don't quite get how you can be indifferent to diarrhea being spread on your toast frankly.
EDIT: OT (I always forget this part): Um, being of Highland descent looting and pillaging of the border regions. Being part viking looting and pillaging a hell of a lot of places. Being British the whole empire thing.
BUT!
We gave the world Mr Bean. So you have to forgive us. = D Everyone loves Rowan Atkinson.
And damn good ones at that.Phasmal said:
You know, if everyone had just sat down and had a nice cup of tea, they would have realised we weren't all that bad. Good job, America, ruining everything. Then there was the naked guy with the stick! Just sit and have some tea, we'll work this out. I for one, eagerly await the New British Empire, in space. We just need to take over the ESA first and/or the EU.
[small]Wheeeee, trivialising and completely misrepresenting history is fun![/small]
hah, we stole your game and were better at it too!Jynthor said:
Oh god my sides just nearly exploded from that one.Sieg Firebrand said:
Our government really should apologise for that.
True, not our finest moment now that they found bodies on the property of the Dutchbat base.Alleged_Alec said:
However, I am not sorry for a lesser known fact of Dutch history: Sailing onto the Thames during one of the many Dutch-English wars, breaking the chain of the English fleet, and then getting out with England's prize ship.
Actually the Loyalists where solely to blame for the resurgence of the IRA and hence Bobby Sands radicalisation. The Loyalists burned,bombed and murdered Catholics long before the IRA became active in 1969 (look up the murder of catholic barmen to discredit Terence O'Neil)Matthew94 said:
The IRA of the modern era started off as an organisation to defend catholic areas before it went all tits up when they declared war on the British Army etc. which was exacerbated by the Falls road curfew.
So yes loyalists and the likes of the sectarian driven orange lodge had a massive bearing on the IRA of the 70s/80s especially when they where implicit in various sectarian actions.
As for Bobby Sands, he starved himself to death for his beliefs and was silently supported by those deemed his enemies in the opposite wings of the prison. That takes balls even if he was engaged in a struggle for what was deemed a struggle for his countries freedom from an oppressive protestant dominated state.
Gold start for the quote.Daystar Clarion said:
Also relevant:
"The type of people we liked to fight were two feet tall and armed with dry grass."
That's the sort of military thinking I can get behind!
True story: the youth group I went to as a child banned the union jack at their campsites, because of the atrocities committed under it. A mate of mine had a union jack tent (she was a big fan of Brit Pop) so we had to hide it behind a couple of other ones.
Well, I am german. I don't think I have to tell you what people from this region did, do I?
But other than the elephant in the room: Kicking of WWI wasn't really classy, either, but with that one it was basically a red barrel waiting for a stray shot - if it hadn't been the germans, someone would have started that mess. Other than that, germans never really were "nice guys" in history. I kinda regret that my babaric ancestors put so much pressure on the Roman Empire - on the other hand, I like the idea of us being the "angry, drunken guys" who the Romans would rather leave alone or recruit as mercenaries.
Well, let's come to my personal ancestors:
My grandfather skipped the East-West Germany border quite a few times back when The Wall was up. That's not the bad thing - it was kinda heroic and cool. No, the bad thing here is that someone in our family ratted him out. Twice. He barely got away both times, but we never found out who the traitor was - if my mom ever goes to Berlin, she might look into the old Stasi Archive to see who it was.
And, well, there was an old relative who always said that our family comes from a bunch of "Raubritter" - literally translated "robbing knights", knights who, well, robbed people and pillaged stuff. He always said our name was "Sonnenstein" back then... then again, he might have been talking out of his drunken sewage disposal unit.
But other than the elephant in the room: Kicking of WWI wasn't really classy, either, but with that one it was basically a red barrel waiting for a stray shot - if it hadn't been the germans, someone would have started that mess. Other than that, germans never really were "nice guys" in history. I kinda regret that my babaric ancestors put so much pressure on the Roman Empire - on the other hand, I like the idea of us being the "angry, drunken guys" who the Romans would rather leave alone or recruit as mercenaries.
Well, let's come to my personal ancestors:
My grandfather skipped the East-West Germany border quite a few times back when The Wall was up. That's not the bad thing - it was kinda heroic and cool. No, the bad thing here is that someone in our family ratted him out. Twice. He barely got away both times, but we never found out who the traitor was - if my mom ever goes to Berlin, she might look into the old Stasi Archive to see who it was.
And, well, there was an old relative who always said that our family comes from a bunch of "Raubritter" - literally translated "robbing knights", knights who, well, robbed people and pillaged stuff. He always said our name was "Sonnenstein" back then... then again, he might have been talking out of his drunken sewage disposal unit.
..? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Ehem - sorry. That's kind of hilarious. Doesn't genocide count as an atrocity anymore?xshadowscreamx said:
English here, so imperialism, general genocidal nastiness, crusading, all that stuff and nonsense. Whoops!
Why did you come back to this thread to quote something from like 10 pages ago? XDSmashLovesTitanQuest said:WOW. Why did I come back to this thread.Daystar Clarion said:Oh, it gets better.
Good luck sleeping tonight
Yeah, scratch my earlier post, I'm not gonna be ashamed of Sauerkraut if this stuff is being sold in other parts of the world.
Can you imagine an animal died just to be turned into that? I'm fine with killing em and making em tasty, but if you're just gonna make them disgusting, you might as well eat Sauerkraut and not take a life.
Yeah, thanks for bringing this back into the discussion. I had only puked once after seeing those images. I could really go for another bowel purge.
That's what you get when you have a king more interested in screwing and drinking than ruling. That period of history wasn't great for us- civil war, plague, the capital burnt down and then that. Still, we took New York, so there's that I guess?Evil Raccoon said:
How did they get a hat and sunglasses on a bear!?SmashLovesTitanQuest said:Because I felt like it.Fappy said:Why did you come back to this thread to quote something from like 10 pages ago? XDSmashLovesTitanQuest said:WOW. Why did I come back to this thread.Daystar Clarion said:Oh, it gets better.
Good luck sleeping tonight
Yeah, scratch my earlier post, I'm not gonna be ashamed of Sauerkraut if this stuff is being sold in other parts of the world.
Can you imagine an animal died just to be turned into that? I'm fine with killing em and making em tasty, but if you're just gonna make them disgusting, you might as well eat Sauerkraut and not take a life.
Also, I really wanted to make you puke again
I must know---*BLARGH*
Still puking, sorry.
