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Necromancer1991

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SpiderJerusalem said:
Alcohol can do a lot of things, especially if the person has a history of mental problems already. Nobody is saying Gibson is perfect, but labeling him an anti-semite over a drunken outburst a half a decade ago is a knee-jerk reaction to a non-issue that should have been blown over by the time he publicly apologized and was publicly forgiven by prom
More or less this, the whole media circus on this issue didn't help, when your drunk you do stupid shit, it's just that when a celebrity does stupid shit it makes the headlines!
 

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Mel Gibson is one of my favorite actors so I will probably go see this. *Raises flame shield*
 

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Well, that's the end of Mel Gibson's career.

Sorry, Bob, nothing anyone can say about this movie is able to make me want to see it or to even take it at all seriously. I don't care if a movie about Mel Gibson wearing a beaver puppet on his hand is about defense mechanisms or depression or whatever; it's still a movie about Mel Gibson wearing a goddamn beaver puppet on his hand.
 

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Abriel said:
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Abriel said:
Too bad it sounds like it's so interesting and something I would see, because I don't let my money go towards supporting Anti-Semites.

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I don't see the significance of Gibson's personal life when looking at any film he is in.

You can if you want but I personally don't see the reasoning for it. Because he's a antisemite he can't play a dude with a beaver for a hand in a small art film?

This is a free country. The moment you go around judging a man for his beliefs is the moment I stop caring about your opinion.

Let he without sin cast the first stone, etc.
It's significant to people like me who are Jews. So I guess our opinions and feelings don't count? Good to know.
If you want to take offence against Mel Gibson for his past remarks you are free to do so. If you do not want to spend money on his films, again, you are free to do so.

Should he be allowed to make films? That is the question which I'm defending. I was not defending his position as an anti-semite, I was defending his position as an actor.

You can do as you want, but if it irks you I'd suggest asking yourself why a complete stranger's views bother you so much.
Nope, never once did I say he shouldn't be allowed to make films. Just that I won't personally support it.

As for why it bothers me, it wouldn't but he's a very public figure and I know it bothers plenty of other people. Anti-Semitism is also a very real problem that is still shamefully around and views like his are what led to things like the Holocaust.

But it's my beef. He can still make films and be an actor but people who don't want to support him shouldn't be crucified for refusing to do so. We have a right to our feelings and opinions just as he has a right to his.

I agree with you 100% :)

Why is the Escapist one of the best forums on the net? Because of conversations like this.
 

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Guys, can we focus on Jodie Foster here?

I'm incredibly stoked she's back to make anothe rmovie, last one I saw of her's was way back in 2007...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/04/Brave_one_2007.jpg
 

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"The thing about directing is ... you get to have this piece of film that says 'this is what I love. This is what I believe in.'"

And what she loves is beaver.

Seriously, this movie sounds awesome.
 

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From what I know about Mel Gibson, there's a pretty fuzzy area somewhere in that brain where 'being an anti-semite' and 'being completely fucking insane' are pretty hard to distinguish.

I'm not saying he should necessarily be forgiven, but the guy clearly has problems of his own.

Really, if I were to pick out people to play a character with serious mental health problems and a crumbling life, I'm not sure you could cast better.

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You're saying this is worth a look, essentially letting Gibson off with his actions, despite stating the exact opposite during the whole Vick fiasco.
As far as I'm aware, Mel Gibson never tortured Jews and made them fight each other so he could reap the gambling profits.

The things he's said are disgusting and regrettable, but it's a different league.
 

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So... is this image a screenshot from the movie Or is it just a Charlie Sheen type stunt by Mel Gibson that is now going to be used in a movie? This has been around for a while and it seems strange that if it was a movie screenshot that it would be in the public eye so quickly.
 

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South Park said it best:

"Say what you want about Mel Gibson, but the son of a ***** knows story structure."

I don't really care about any celebrity's (athlete/actor/politician) personal life, as long as they're good at their job. And I personally believe Mel Gibson is one of the best actors/directors. People are so quick to forget their own personal lives are a mess when they criticize others for theirs.
 

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Haw, haw, haw. Left-wingers spewing rage over Gibson, just because of one drunken brain fart episode with some cops and, of course, his marital problems. Haw, haw, haw. If it were Woody Allen, Roman Polanski, or Helen Thomas you far lefties would be clamoring to defend them. I smell a bit of hypocrisy. Left-wingers and right-wingers are the biggest hypocrites on the planet.
 

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I've been excited for this movie for months. I saw a trailer a while backand I'm still excited about it.

As for Mel Gibson, can't we just forgive the man? He was ignorant and racist, but that doesn't mean we should condem the poor guy. Forgive and forget!
 

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bilkobob said:
Haw, haw, haw. Left-wingers spewing rage over Gibson, just because of one drunken brain fart episode with some cops and, of course, his marital problems. Haw, haw, haw. If it were Woody Allen, Roman Polanski, or Helen Thomas you far lefties would be clamoring to defend them. I smell a bit of hypocrisy. Left-wingers and right-wingers are the biggest hypocrites on the planet.
...I think I agree with this.

Anywho, It's Mel Gibson. I have yet to see something he had anything to do (though I didn't see Saw: Bibical Times) I didn't like. That being said, I may see this. Sounds weird enough that it just might be worth it. Weirdly enough, it's Jodie Foster that I don't entirely like as a performer, not Mel Gibson. I mean, "The Brave One" wasn't a good movie, and I didn't particularly like "Panic Room" either. I did like "Silence of the Lambs", and her role in it, but that was a lifetime ago, and the movies she's been in since then...meh.
 

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I guess i should also be thankful that i don't care about Mel Gibson's personal life or personality in the slightest.
Well that's the funny thing, Mel Gibson has been a film star since the early 80s, and we never really saw him in the light that we have had since we found out about his anti-semitism and all the other ugly traits that came out since the 2000s.

I remember in the 90s he was a really likable star. For instance, take Charlie Sheen, there's only been a short period people saw him as respectable, and that was when he made the movie Platoon in the 80s. After that the world found out about his drug and partying habits, and his love of prostitutes really quick. So for Charlie Sheen he has had a bad rep for a while now.

Tom Cruise has been a lot like Mel though, we didn't know how crazy he was until that appearance on Oprah show. But unlike Mel, I don't think Tom has ever been a likable star, a sex symbol to women maybe, but that's it.

With Tom, I like, not liking the man. But with Mel, there was a time I did like the guy.

Personally, I just figure this is just the type of person he has become recently. Sometimes celebrities go off the wall a bit when they've been in the spotlight for so many years. That's just the problem with that life style, after so many years being under the spotlight, the heat from the light can fry the brain a bit and really bring out the worse in people.
 

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Inglip said:
You're saying this is worth a look, essentially letting Gibson off with his actions, despite stating the exact opposite during the whole Vick fiasco.

What the hell Bob?
I could be wrong but I don't believe Bob ever said that Vick should have been permanently banned from football - at the very least he didn't suggest that football fans should boycott Eagles games. Bob did feel that Vick shouldn't be given special accolades or celebration.

If the Academy Awards decided to give Mel Gibson a lifetime achievement award, or if some high profile video editing software decided to put his mug on the cover, I suspect Bob would object to that.
 

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I've been watching this films development and I migth see it. I prefer a brave failure to a boring pass.

As for Mel, I can completely get behiend people not wanting to see his films because of him. I tend to prefer judging the actor rather then the person but people are free to chose which one they want.
 

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I'm not wanting to hold it all against Mel Gibson, but I suppose in a world where Charlie Sheen is still fawned over...

anyway, I agree this movie has a er...brave premise, which I suppose made me somewhat interested...tho I feel weird saying it haha
 

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JackSparrowSucks said:
bilkobob said:
Haw, haw, haw. Left-wingers spewing rage over Gibson, just because of one drunken brain fart episode with some cops and, of course, his marital problems. Haw, haw, haw. If it were Woody Allen, Roman Polanski, or Helen Thomas you far lefties would be clamoring to defend them. I smell a bit of hypocrisy. Left-wingers and right-wingers are the biggest hypocrites on the planet.
Sadly, even as someone who leans to the left a bit, THAT IS COMPLETELY TRUE.

If any of those morons threatened to rape someone, everyone would be downplaying it.
and as someone who leans to the right a bit...chyeahhhh

okay so Mel's obviously got issues, but between now and that drunken incident there have been other crazier celebrity freak outs. I guess he's just a bigger name and easier to keep coming back to
 

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Random berk said:
So... is this image a screenshot from the movie Or is it just a Charlie Sheen type stunt by Mel Gibson that is now going to be used in a movie? This has been around for a while and it seems strange that if it was a movie screenshot that it would be in the public eye so quickly.
It looks like an on-set photograph. Either that or a pre-post-production (heh, weird term) shot from the movie. It doesn't gel with the colour palette in the trailer or in any of the actual screenshots. The film seems to have a lot of crushed shadows (simulating underexposure), that shot has none.