I always liked Forever the most out of the pre-Begins films. I never felt like Burton loved Batman and, Batman and Robin was just crap. That said, forever feels to me like an amalgamation of the three main types of Batman pervading popular culture at the time: Dark, gritty, 90's comics Batman, the Adam West Batman, which was still locked into the collective minds of the public, and the animated series. For better or for worse it was something that really set itself apart from the Burton films, but regrettably went too far for the sequel.