The Big Picture: Correctitude

MovieBob

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Gunnyboy said:
I wonder how Bob feels that they're not going to give RoboCop his gun on the statue in Detroit. Likening it to Superman's heat vision.
The gun is inside his leg, so we can't see it unless he's holding it. If he WAS holding it in the pose it would be tacky, too "on the nose. The statue should have him posed in the same kind of "dignified stance" like a kind of statesman - we can tell it's Robocop, the gun is unnecessary.
 

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I think you may be going a bit over the top on this. There are certainly situations where political correctness is ridiculous, for instance, the Ba Ba Rainbow Sheep thing, or people complaining that black is an insensitive term. Sure if someone specifically asks me to not call them that I won't, but it doesn't make them any less black. Should I start complaining when people call me white?
 

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samus17 said:
Not bad, but I don't remember the resident evil 5 racism scandal being quite like how you portray it. I'm pretty sure the complaints were "whitey killing blacks" and not "misuse of tribal [& AIDS] imagery" But hey, I could be wrong.
I was thinking this exact same thing as I watched the video, and it was the first thing that had me rolling my eyes.

The second thing, and what ultimately made me stop the video and lose interest in Bob in general, was him again going to the "Cha Bro" voice to insult a certain group of people. Dude, we all get that you got beaten up or made fun of by a jock at some point in your life. GET OVER IT, and stop using That Voice as a crutch whenever you want to demean someone.

Maybe use the voice of another stereotype, like a lazy Mexican or a "hirarious" Asian or an uneducated black man. OH WAIT.
 

mikespoff

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Hmm, I found this one a little disappointing. Seemed to wander about and rant more than actually make useful points.
 

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SL33TBL1ND said:
I think you may be going a bit over the top on this. There are certainly situations where political correctness is ridiculous, for instance, the Ba Ba Rainbow Sheep thing, or people complaining that black is an insensitive term. Sure if someone specifically asks me to not call them that I won't, but it doesn't make them any less black. Should I start complaining when people call me white?
The man has a point.

wrt Bob's "words mean things", it's a little counter-productive to throw out descriptive words in favour of inaccurate and verbose words. A white guy born in Africa who becomes a US citizen is literally an African-American. A black guy whose family has been in the USA for four generations isn't.
 

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green_dude said:
samus17 said:
Not bad, but I don't remember the resident evil 5 racism scandal being quite like how you portray it. I'm pretty sure the complaints were "whitey killing blacks" and not "misuse of tribal imagery" But hey, I could be wrong.

Edit: Before the MovieBob defense force comes to crucify me, here's a quote from a group of the complainer's since the original article has been taken down.
http://gamepolitics.com/2007/08/01/african-womens-blog-critical-of-resident-evil-5-trailer
I agree with this guy.

The guys that made a fuss before the game even came out where actually just complaining about the whole mighty-whitey-kills-the-negros thing. I'd say the tribal zombies that we all saw after the game came out where a little bit racist though.
A little? look I was on their side up until that part then they lost me, it was simply stupid and fucktard behavior.
 

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Love it Bob. Love It. You've hit one of my major peeves in the political world: people trying to elevate their actions. It isn't a fight for free speach, it's people upset others are trying to get them to do something they don't want to do, in this case: stop using derogatary terminoligy. Many even seem to miss things like how obviously racial slurs against the president aren't legitimate criticisms of policy.

Then again your next video on the same subject could be how often the term "freedom" is used by self proclaimed John Galts feeling held down, that are really just people upset someone is pointing out they aren't as great as they think they are, but still expecting them to be.
 

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mikespoff said:
SL33TBL1ND said:
I think you may be going a bit over the top on this. There are certainly situations where political correctness is ridiculous, for instance, the Ba Ba Rainbow Sheep thing, or people complaining that black is an insensitive term. Sure if someone specifically asks me to not call them that I won't, but it doesn't make them any less black. Should I start complaining when people call me white?
The man has a point.

wrt Bob's "words mean things", it's a little counter-productive to throw out descriptive words in favour of inaccurate and verbose words. A white guy born in Africa who becomes a US citizen is literally an African-American. A black guy whose family has been in the USA for four generations isn't.
Efficiency is a piss poor reason to avoid simple niceness.
 

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Rift(le MMO) ... The 'good' guys are white, and the 'bad' guys? Brown, Blackish-Bluish Races ... It's so funny that some people to extra lengths to defend the choices the dev made for these characters.

Great video as usual.
 

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The Gentleman said:
Would "finally, someone says what we're all thinking" be too cliché?
No, no it would not.

Thank you, Bob! Made my Tuesday a bit better.
 

Normandyfoxtrot

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Donbett1974 said:
I like how P.C. fighters where Democrats but the Republicans where jerks. Someones bias is showing.
Not really, saying that Republicans were against PC is just correct. Hell they also made up some PC boogeymen that still exists. Take the "War on Christmas"
Well take the Grey Anatomy actor calling co-star a ******. He should never been fired because he didn't say as a representative of the show when he said it. Or South Park Allah controversy. P.C. is real.
I think the Allah controversy isn't so much "we don't want to offend Muslims" it's "we don't want to offend any nuts who will then try kill us"

Not sure if that counts as being PC or just submitting to terrorism.
If that's the reason than their simply idiots who don't know anything about the real world, after all they've offended plenty of groups of people with just as many or more violent hate filled individuals in them without batting an eyelash.
 

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JimHawking said:
Half of what Bob said was right the other half was frankly pretty stupid.

-People using anti-political correctness as a shield, yeah screw them.

-People going WAY out of their way to avoid being "offensive" can be very annoying. For example, the insistence that the the phrase Arab terrorists is somehow offensive drives me a bit crazy.

No offense Bob you clearly don't have a very good grip on politics, your doing what bad comedians do. Most comedians can't do competent political commentary and confuse preaching an ideology (typically liberal) with wit. Stick to geekdom, you actually have something interesting to say about that.
Thank you for saying in a much nicer way what I was wanting to say. I would've hated to come across as a big meanie, poopie headed jerk who wants to deport all Mexicans, Asians, Muslims, (insert any other ethnic or religious group you want here), send all the women to the kitchen and the blacks down to the fields.

Really though, with his words (which mean things, remember) in past videos has contradicted himself many times based on what he said here. Even with some of the images he used along with the words spoken at the time, obviously describing them, he became the the "big jerk" who was just being "mean". Or does that only count if you aren't talking about someone on the right, politically speaking?
 

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I find it very odd you mention getting on your soapbox... Near the end of the review, rather than right at the start when you were already up there.

I mean, goodness, if you really want to get technical, you haven't really left the soapbox since the first video? Isn't The Big Picture really less of an objective analysis in general and more of a vehicle for exhaustively stating your point of view? I'm not trying to be confrontational here, but I honestly can't think of any Big Picture video you've done that didn't at least heavily imply that your opinion was the correct one.

And I'm not saying it isn't. If I have any point, it's that your title seems like a misnomer and I just don't think this show is particularly entertaining compared to the very fine work you have done elsewhere. Anyone can do this. Anyone can frame his or her opinions so they seem like the most reasonable person in the room, when they're the only one talking. Anyone can take the obvious points that we've all conceded by now and talk about how right they are.

You want to get controversial, why not try to address the issue of how destructive model worship is to young women? How young men and advertisers perpetuate stereotypes that have women chasing goals which aren't only unrealistic, they're impossible to achieve. Not "impossible to achieve without damaging your body," they are impossible to achieve, period. Talk about personal trainers, digital touch-up jobs, starvation diets and eating disorders.

The reason I bring this subject up is that you have many times in the past been shameless in your adoration of and fondness for impossibly-good-looking women (models, actresses, it's all the same crap really. I mean, I've never heard you drool over Queen Latifah or anything). I would like to see how the two opinions reconcile themselves. I'm interested in your opinion on the issue, because the two problems aren't unrelated.
 

Normandyfoxtrot

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RowdyRodimus said:
JimHawking said:
Half of what Bob said was right the other half was frankly pretty stupid.

-People using anti-political correctness as a shield, yeah screw them.

-People going WAY out of their way to avoid being "offensive" can be very annoying. For example, the insistence that the the phrase Arab terrorists is somehow offensive drives me a bit crazy.

No offense Bob you clearly don't have a very good grip on politics, your doing what bad comedians do. Most comedians can't do competent political commentary and confuse preaching an ideology (typically liberal) with wit. Stick to geekdom, you actually have something interesting to say about that.
Thank you for saying in a much nicer way what I was wanting to say. I would've hated to come across as a big meanie, poopie headed jerk who wants to deport all Mexicans, Asians, Muslims, (insert any other ethnic or religious group you want here), send all the women to the kitchen and the blacks down to the fields.

Really though, with his words (which mean things, remember) in past videos has contradicted himself many times based on what he said here. Even with some of the images he used along with the words spoken at the time, obviously describing them, he became the the "big jerk" who was just being "mean". Or does that only count if you aren't talking about someone on the right, politically speaking?
You seem to be missing that fact that bob never said he wasn't a jerk hell the core of the rant had more to do with people not owning up to being assholes than a true indictment of being as asshole.