The Big Picture: Enough With The Batman Already!
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Fun Fact: We have hit the "Peak" with Star Wars like a long time ago, and now this is going to be so much worse...
I'm sort of used to everything being milked long after i lost interest.
So yeah, i also don't need new Batman Movies for at least 5 years. I guess there's not much to be discussed here.
I'm sort of used to everything being milked long after i lost interest.
So yeah, i also don't need new Batman Movies for at least 5 years. I guess there's not much to be discussed here.
1) I actually agree with Bob that maybe it is time to put Batman away for awhile and lets try making GOOD (and I emphasis that word) movies for the other characters in the DC canon.
2) I disagree that Batman has nothing to bring to the table. The truth is that in many cases, Batman is capable of doing what the others heroes can't or won't do. Make no mistake, in that little list of super humans Bob rattled off, none of them are a half-decent detective and I wouldn't trust any of them to do any kind of real infiltration. Sorry Bob, but just because you're tired of him doesn't mean he isn't one of the most important parts of the Justice League for more then just "being Batman".
2) I disagree that Batman has nothing to bring to the table. The truth is that in many cases, Batman is capable of doing what the others heroes can't or won't do. Make no mistake, in that little list of super humans Bob rattled off, none of them are a half-decent detective and I wouldn't trust any of them to do any kind of real infiltration. Sorry Bob, but just because you're tired of him doesn't mean he isn't one of the most important parts of the Justice League for more then just "being Batman".
Since Batman is my favourite superhero due at least in part to how he was the start of my interest in superheroes I could never hit peak Batman. That being said, I agree with MovieBob that Warner Bros needs to focus on other heroes.
I wrote an article a while back (not sure what the rues are on linking to own work but I will skip link to be safe) in which I stated that the success of Man of Steel should be more important to Warner Bros than the successs of the then unreleased Dark Knight Rises.
One of the reason's Marvel is wiping the floor with DC in terms of movies is that their movies are much more consistent in quality which is made more impressive by how much more content its movie studio puts makes than Warner Bros (only speaking about the comic book movies). Warner Bros needs to show that they can make good movies with a character other than Batman if DC wants to have any hope of standing toe to toe with Marvel, a company that has successfully made mainstream audiences aware of characters that they were previously unaware of.
I wrote an article a while back (not sure what the rues are on linking to own work but I will skip link to be safe) in which I stated that the success of Man of Steel should be more important to Warner Bros than the successs of the then unreleased Dark Knight Rises.
One of the reason's Marvel is wiping the floor with DC in terms of movies is that their movies are much more consistent in quality which is made more impressive by how much more content its movie studio puts makes than Warner Bros (only speaking about the comic book movies). Warner Bros needs to show that they can make good movies with a character other than Batman if DC wants to have any hope of standing toe to toe with Marvel, a company that has successfully made mainstream audiences aware of characters that they were previously unaware of.
Yes your right bob, but since the only other superhero they tried failed (Green Lantern) I suspect they view Batman as their only card at the moment that they can sell the movie to the public at the moment (Superman is at the moment an unknown and all their other superhero projects are either in development or unreleased).
The result is they have to sell it on Batman because that the only thing the accountants can see as selling.
The result is they have to sell it on Batman because that the only thing the accountants can see as selling.
And as he said, "I've had enough of the goddamned Batman."T3hSource said:
Both definitions of that swear apply in this case.
Here's one immediate, easy way to make Batman new again: Adam West him the fuck up. Make him an archaic, ridiculous symbol of oldschool machismo, bring back the sexy 60s-looking ladies to fawn over and/or catwoman him, give him one of his sillier opponents to fight as a B-plot with waves of implausible goons and make everything as goofy as possible. That sounds like several gallons of fun in my book. Hell, I'll just bet that Jon Hamm would jump at the chance to be Bruce Wayne for pennies on the dollar.
Although Batman is really the only DC hero to interest me, I agree that WB should really pull out a couple of other superhero movies, introducing new characters, before they make another Batman. Maybe even try to make them good this time.
Want a different take on the dark knight, in the 1990's Takara and sunrise did just that. When the child of a millionare cuple gets killed, he inherts there locomotive company and desides to fight crime. However since this is the future(and japan, not that's a bad thing) all the criminals use giant robots, so what does he do? He makes a giant robot out of a giant train....and it was awesome!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmm8klRP6Jg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmm8klRP6Jg
Sad but true...and you could actually apply this to ALL companies since the recent trend seems to be to redo everything that is "safe" enough to make money. See: All the grey-brown shooters.Sylocat said:
Outside of the proposed Justice League movie itself, I definitely don't want to see any more Batman for a while.
I think Batman works best in a Justice League story when his role as a detective and driver of fancy cars and planes is emphasized over his punching people in the face. The problem is that very few Batman writers seem to understand that 'detective' does not mean 'has a fancy computer machine that tells him the answers to everything', so we rarely see Batman do anything that makes him appear particularly good at detecting and figuring things out.
I think Batman works best in a Justice League story when his role as a detective and driver of fancy cars and planes is emphasized over his punching people in the face. The problem is that very few Batman writers seem to understand that 'detective' does not mean 'has a fancy computer machine that tells him the answers to everything', so we rarely see Batman do anything that makes him appear particularly good at detecting and figuring things out.
I guess I should of qualified it by saying a nonanimated movie. The Batman Beyond is like the one alternative batman setting/character they could tap reasonably well and expect mass appeal too. Not like Gaslight Batman or ya know the dozens of other batmans.T3hSource said: