Well, that was a very interesting month of "The Big Picture"! Hopefully we'll get more theme months in the future in which Bob educates us about the history of something many of us, as geeks, should know about but probably don't.
The Big Picture: Hollywood History 101 Supplemental: The Code
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*clap clap clap* well done. I quite enjoyed this 4 part explanation of the film industry history. Very interesting and even a bit enlightening. I would like something like this to be done again in the future.
It's called the big picture, bub lol. Still though, The Big Picture does sound movie related04whim said:
Does anyone have an extended version or a loop of that music that plays at the start of these videos? If you do, kindly share.
OT: Good episode as always.
OT: Good episode as always.
Emphasis mine. I suppose that the reason for that is, once a law is on the books, it's significantly harder to get rid of it than it is to phase out an industry standard. What I mean is, say that the Hays Code never came about and the government decided to censor films. I have little doubt that the code they came up with would have been less Draconian than the Hays Code, but I bet it would still exist today. (edit: or it would have existed for significantly longer)brazuca said:
Of course, I could be way off base on that. Bob, what's your take?
Haha, he was just joking, since the next EttM will be out before the next Big Picture.Burningsok said:It's called the big picture, bub lol. Still though, The Big Picture does sound movie related04whim said:
I really think censorship in the US is best summed up with this line:
Scenes dealing with, or instruments associated with walking dead, torture, vampires and vampirism, ghouls, cannibalism, and werewolfism are prohibited.
For those unfamiliar it's from the Comics Code Authority, not the MPAA, and that line gets me every time. Yeah I know it's not movie censorship but its close enough and its hilarious. Banning "werewolfism" and the such is beyond ridiculous, and its good to remember the beyond ridiculous parts when someone tries to start this up again.
When Fallout 3 came out I was doing my student teaching and a lot of my middle school students were playing it . . . this honestly disturbed me a bit. But there's really no way to start down this road without ending up banning werewolfism, or something equally ludicrous. Makes me glad that the First Amendment was upheld earlier in the year.
Scenes dealing with, or instruments associated with walking dead, torture, vampires and vampirism, ghouls, cannibalism, and werewolfism are prohibited.
For those unfamiliar it's from the Comics Code Authority, not the MPAA, and that line gets me every time. Yeah I know it's not movie censorship but its close enough and its hilarious. Banning "werewolfism" and the such is beyond ridiculous, and its good to remember the beyond ridiculous parts when someone tries to start this up again.
When Fallout 3 came out I was doing my student teaching and a lot of my middle school students were playing it . . . this honestly disturbed me a bit. But there's really no way to start down this road without ending up banning werewolfism, or something equally ludicrous. Makes me glad that the First Amendment was upheld earlier in the year.
I really enjoyed the summarization of Movie History in America, granted I knew a fair bit about most of it before, but I like having these fun concise videos to link to my friends now.
I just like to say thank you for a interesting history lesson even though I doubt it will come to any real use, it has been fun and did not know Hollywood history could be this interesting to learn.
I think it's good to bring up "censorship through time" since it's still a very debatable subject. Not just game "censorship" but also what hollywood aims for when they create movies.
No blood gore or swearing, yey let the small kids see it and let the parents/older people sit through another cute and fuzzy movie. But (I've argued for it before) say the last Harry Potter movies would need some swearing the "main audience" has grown up and want a more adult movie.. not that say "Cars 2" need swearing but really to many movies are to kid friendly..
But also something that surprises me is how many really bad/ boring movies gets made in their long history haven't they learnt whats good and talked about long after cinemas stopped showing them. We do not get these kind of movies all that often, but sometimes I get surprised District 9 was a huge surprise did not sound that good on paper but when I left the cinema I knew what film I would recommend to friends..
O well gone of topic again so I just stop here
Ps. Thanks again for the history lesson
I think it's good to bring up "censorship through time" since it's still a very debatable subject. Not just game "censorship" but also what hollywood aims for when they create movies.
No blood gore or swearing, yey let the small kids see it and let the parents/older people sit through another cute and fuzzy movie. But (I've argued for it before) say the last Harry Potter movies would need some swearing the "main audience" has grown up and want a more adult movie.. not that say "Cars 2" need swearing but really to many movies are to kid friendly..
But also something that surprises me is how many really bad/ boring movies gets made in their long history haven't they learnt whats good and talked about long after cinemas stopped showing them. We do not get these kind of movies all that often, but sometimes I get surprised District 9 was a huge surprise did not sound that good on paper but when I left the cinema I knew what film I would recommend to friends..
O well gone of topic again so I just stop here
Ps. Thanks again for the history lesson
I'm curious Bob what you think of the current MPAA rating system. We can all list the obvious problems but mostly I'm curious what your take on statements made by a number of media and first amendment scholars that a government system would be preferable to the current MPAA system.
Thanks Bob, this whole series was great. In my opinion, you should keep doing many of these segments about movies; you've got a lot to offer on the subject so don't shy away. Much of film history (not to mention TV, games, music, culture in general) just seems bizarre when stripped of the context to support it. You're my primary conduit for getting said context, so keep it coming!
hmm I never knew that there was a huge tabloid existance in the early era, i always thought that there was kind of a respect thing going on in that time where the medai didnt go after hollywood.
Also Hearst was such a scumbag he on of those dudes along with hoover whom I wish would be treated like the villians they were in the history books.
Also Hearst was such a scumbag he on of those dudes along with hoover whom I wish would be treated like the villians they were in the history books.
I meant Bob's other show on The Escapist, titled Escape to the Movies, where he does he movie reviews.Burningsok said:It's called the big picture, bub lol. Still though, The Big Picture does sound movie related04whim said:
It gets released on a Friday so it'll be out before the next Big Picture meaning that next time I hear from him, it will be about movies. 
I'm kinda depressed he didn't mention it but if you would like to know more about the MPAA and some of it's shady history, backroom deals with the studios and how flawed it can really be. Go seek out a documentry called "this filmn is not yet rated". I know it's for instant watch on netflix.
***Also a note to the escapist. Please do not run video ads in tandem with your videos... I know its hard to find just banner ads, but this El Shaddai crap is hurting my computer. I will accept auto video play if i roll over it, or if there is some way to makie it pause so it doesn't have to stream with the video.just a note becasue my computer was chugging and moaning the whole time Big picture played causing the audio to be off and the video images to stall.***
***Also a note to the escapist. Please do not run video ads in tandem with your videos... I know its hard to find just banner ads, but this El Shaddai crap is hurting my computer. I will accept auto video play if i roll over it, or if there is some way to makie it pause so it doesn't have to stream with the video.just a note becasue my computer was chugging and moaning the whole time Big picture played causing the audio to be off and the video images to stall.***
I liked the episode as well, and was wondering when he'd get to the Hayes Code and hopefully the end of this little series.Frozen Donkey Wheel2 said:
Also, YES!! Jesus tap dancing Christ, I'm getting really tired of waiting for my computer to catch up with what I want to do. And they are fucking everywhere, so annoying!
I'm more interested in them as an aspect of history and camera experimentation, as opposed to being a well written, well scripted, and well performed movie.MovieBob said: