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Steve the Pocket

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I just think it's funny that on an Internet populated mostly by American liberals, it's Family Guy that gets bashed for its political messagemongering, while South Park, which is unabashedly Libertarian in nature and has such messages as "who cares about saving the planet; if it gives some people an excuse to be smug, it's not worth it", is the people's favorite. And don't get me wrong; Family Guy genuinely does suck at its political writing most of the time -- the episode where they go to Texas and that joke where a Nazi has a McCain/Palin button on his jacket are some of the most infuriating things I've ever seen on the show. I'm just amused that they're so bad that people will actually admit they're bad despite their own political leanings.
 

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I've seen too many episodes of Family Guy and I won't be sad if I never see one again. I find its humour to be thorougly cheap and shallow. First, the animation is very bland. Secondly, The voice acting is boring at best and grating at worst. And third, most if its jokes are simply references for their own sake, and the few jokes with potential are dragged on to a bore. To me, it's just afwul television, just like its carbon-copies American Dad and Cleveland Show.

So yeah, I hate the show. I know a lot of people who really seem to enjoy this stuff though, and my friends throw a lot of FM-references around. The times I had to sit through a "humourous" rendition of "the bird is the world" are noumerous. They never go on about the appeal of Brian's cool live-in uncle appeal or anything like that, and the show really doesn't seem to bother with any kind of characterization beyond what's neccesary for cheap jokes.

Once again, I think Bob's reading too much into things. MacFarlane seems like an okay guy and does posses some talents, but as I see it, he had an unexpected hit with an easy Simpsons knock-off and hasn't really had the guts to try anything radically different since then.
 

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Steve the Pocket said:
the episode where they go to Texas and that joke where a Nazi has a McCain/Palin button on his jacket are some of the most infuriating things I've ever seen on the show.
You mean the episode where they go back in time and end up in Nazi Germany. And then they meet a Nazi who has a McCain/Palin button on him? I'm sure your mind was angry for something else because they did not went to Texas in that episode.

Or was it because you thought they ended up in Texas and it had Nazi's walking around? Now that would be absurd. Texas doesn't have old school Nazi's. Only the dumb Neo-Nazi's who are of course not only limited to Texas and the United States.

And a small addendum: I myself am leaning to the right when it comes to the political view. But even I thought McCain was a man who is (still) well on his way to his grave and Sarah Palin..well Lisa Ann [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who%27s_Nailin%27_Paylin%3F] was a better Sarah Palin than Sarah Palin herself.
 

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synobal said:
Seriously? that is your big thing? You like family guy? Big freaking deal. I don't understand what the big deal is.
The big deal is that if you talk about Family Guy anywhere on the internet, it summons legions of haters who flame you to hell and back... and that's if you DON'T admit to liking it.

I honestly never understood the hate, but I'm gonna chalk it up to the same kind of backlash that Diablo 3 got. After so many years with the first three seasons (back when it was acceptable to admit to liking Family Guy), I think people resented when it came back and things weren't exactly identically the same.
 

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spunkgarglewiwi said:
Steve the Pocket said:
the episode where they go to Texas and that joke where a Nazi has a McCain/Palin button on his jacket are some of the most infuriating things I've ever seen on the show.
You mean the episode where they go back in time and end up in Nazi Germany. And then they meet a Nazi who has a McCain/Palin button on him? I'm sure your mind was angry for something else because they did not went to Texas in that episode.
I was referring to two separate episodes.
 

Jenny Jones

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Not really seen family guy but I did like American Dad. So is American Dad like the first 3 seasons or the ones after that?
 

Guffe

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People hate family guy??
Where I come from you usually get queer looks when you say you don't like it :p
 

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This video failed to touch on the two things that turn me off from Family Guy. First, the cutaway-humor style means that while the show can generate funny lines, it can't keep up a consistent pace. Second, Peter Griffin is completely and utterly despicable as a person and as a character, and I cannot get invested in any story that centers around him.
First, the cutaway humor that McFarlane uses IS ALL ABOUT PACE! He uses it to cut into his own stories and add an already determinedly timed joke where it wouldn't be easy to touch in without being awkward. It's a blatant trick that he over uses but to say that Simpsons and South Park are devoid of such tricks is a bold faced lie. It's a standard fact that directors have favorite tricks, and I'm a little tired of everyone attacking the Family Guy one just because South Park brought it up that one time. You do realize that the creators of South Park, Matt and Trey, both agreed that they were ONLY KIDDING and that the pokes at family guy were out of love. It's strange to see people take the ridiculous Manitee criticism so fucking seriously.

Second, Peter Griffin is SUPPOSED to be utterly despicable. Family Guy is a DIRECT parody of the common sitcom, and he's the stand in main character. It's the SAME fucking joke as Homer but more blatant, and more in your face. They lack that subtlety but use the blatancy of the character to make some solid points. Yeah, that's the OTHER criticism from the SAME episode of South Park. Family Guy IS actually about stuff in the exact same way The Simpsons is...I know, crazy.

A lot of the modern criticism for family guy came after another satirical cartoon show attacked it. An attack that was in no way returned by Family Guy, which sadly makes people who take this stuff too seriously hate on it all the more, and I'm FUCKING SICK OF IT! It was a god damn joke from a god damned joke show, and even the creators of the show said so. Do I think either Matt or Trey seriously meant that Family Guy was very random? Yes, because it is. Random DOES NOT MEAN BAD!!!
 

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Wait-WHAT? Tosh.0 is on the 'bad list'? Daniel's style and routine is that of a dominant embodiment of a 21st century clown, aggressively throwing you back and forth and tossing you against the wall and ceiling with pitch-perfect shock attacks and incredibly dense reference-laden spiels that make you feel like Tosh's best friend when you actually get one of them.

I can understand the majority of people being put off by this style, but widely considered BAD? As in, not at least widely respected for what it is? Like okay, its main feature is playing Youtube clips and commenting on them, but it's not like that automatically devalues everything around it; Tosh's commentary on top of them is really sharp. Besides, the real meat of the show is the other original content like the Web Redemption segments, which absolutely blow my expectations away almost every single time.

*breathes* Okay, back to the video...
 

Megacherv

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Your opinion of the earlier seasons matches my dad's view entirely, especially with Stewie. Whilst I don't actively watch it as much as I used to, I don't think it's bad by any means, maybe just not as good as it used to be.
 

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Funny, I loved the first two seasons, and after it came back it went downhill for me.
Some episodes are good, the ones you mentioned obviously, but most just bore me.

And being bored means ... not enjoying comedy.
 

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I've always loved Family Guy and never understood why the internet as a whole seems to have this massive hate for it. I also think that in the same way It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia took a few episodes to pick up (for me), it gets funnier the more you watch it. There's some really well-judged moments of expectation, where you know that a cut off is coming and they hold off or don't do it at all - usually breaking the fourth wall to let you know that they're perfectly aware of how much they use it.

I know some people's biggest problem with it is that some of it is utterly ridiculous. And not in a Simpsons-esque "does Homer even have a job any more" not-really-relevant and still technically possible way, but in a "what the hell just happened to my brain" way. And I love that. I love that when it comes to side stories or cutaways, there is literally nothing they won't go for. Some work better than others, but the very fact that they can do that shows they don't mind utterly destroying anything believable in favour of a laugh - even if it is a confused one more than a gutsy one.

Seems to me like Bob missed one of the things that makes Brian so fantastic as a character though. The fact that he is this semi-intellectual but insecure person in one scene, but then he'll immediately break off and start doing something very dog-like. Sniffing butts, dragging himself across the carpet, barking at neighbours. It's a brilliant split-personality and all the funnier for it.

Yeah, I like Family Guy too.
 

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I don't like Bob's Burgers...its the same joke. Things are awkward! Oh no! The best episode was when Archer was there, and did Archer related things. That was funny.
As for Family Guy...I agree. I never understood the hate. Its not that great of a show, but I always give a chuckle or two during an episode.
 

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Family Guy has a ton of genuinely hilarious moments in it, although I personally have a problem with 2 things in the show:

1) I have no clue who 80% of the people/celebrities are in their references. I get they're meant to take the piss out of said person/celebrity and I can usually get what aspect they're taking the piss out of (usually a physical feature or the way they talk/move). Call me someone who lives in a cave, but yeah, I just don't know most of those people : /

2) The song'n'dance moments, primarily between Brian and Stewie. They strike me as really strange because they don't fit into the show for me, almost nothing funny ever happens in them. I like one or two (like the Dumpster Baby song), but overall I just can't stand jigs/musicals . Most Family Guy songs are really boring and feel rather out-of-place.
 

Two Angels

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Family Guy is good background TV but Archer is better than all the named shows in this video.
 

ColdinT

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I loved Family Guy back during it's initial run. I even liked it a bit when it returned.

But the jokes became too crude, or too mean, or just too stupid. I mean, they were making episodes that were simply not enjoyable to watch at all (which was maybe the point). Either way, I just didn't find it much funny anymore, and not worth my time watching. I personally didn't really like how some of the characters changed. Really, all of them became simply unlikeable, and going from your example of Brian, it's hard to see any redeeming qualities. Nor does he get any real character growth past the changes that revealed all these flaws.

Anyway, I don't really care if someone likes Family Guy or not. I just personally no longer find it funny or entertaining.
 

wizzy555

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What I took away from this: People consider family guy bad and futurama good?

I think I've watched pretty much every futurama and never particularly loved it

It's clear to me now, I really don't read enough internet nonsense to be "in touch"
 

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I just want to respond with the episodes you said were some of the best of later day Family Guy. Though North by North Quahog and Petergeist were good, the rest I find practically unwatchable. Road to Germany was trying to be novel in the whole Stewie/Brian going on a road trip yes but there was a point in the episode where it was a blatant calling out of the McCain campaign (since the episode originally aired in 2008 when we were actually supposed to care about the guy) comparing them to Nazis by having one of the Nazi's Stewie and Brian find having a McCain/Palin button. Though I'm wasn't and not a supporter of him in anyway and I might have found it edgy when I was 13 when the episode aired, looking back now, I find it really culturally irrelevant and dated whatever political view might stand.

Next one, Brian & Stewie was just awful. It was basically the episode that made me stop watching Family Guy regularly. (Considering, with a few exceptions, I hadn't enjoyed it since the 100th episode special) I remember the hype about this one being that it was going to really flesh out the characters and have none of the usual tropes that Family Guy is synonymous with and I was curiously intrigued. But what showed was little more than a really bad take on The Breakfast Club and that's being nice. Sure The Breakfast Club still somewhat holds up to Gen-Xers, mostly for it 80's nostalgia and teens talking about their family issues but Brian & Stewie had none of that. From what I can remember, it was them admitting that they loved each other and Brian cleaning out Stewie diapers and poop before they get really weary and realize that the door was open the entire time. Ignoring that that kind of an ending is an unfathomable cop-out, the entire episode just was a poor excuse to try and add more depth to the characters resulting in making them even more unlikeable than before. Three Kings was passable at best but not memorable in the least say unlike Petergeist or North by North Quahog. To be honest I never have seen ...And Then There Were Fewer so I can't discuss its faults rather than assuming that it has some.

And for Partial Terms of Endearment, just pathetic. Yes you could say that they tried to be edgy dealing with a really hot button topic but they way they did it just seemed that they really were going for shock value and leaving funny out of the episode or trying to bring the Family Guy formula of cut-aways, obscure pop-culture references and college aged stoner/gross-out humor to a topic that it really doesn't mesh or mesh well with. (see politics & Family Guy as well) Also it must be added that the episode never or has never aired on TV where most people watch Family Guy (in rerun form) thus limiting the effect it can have. Yea sure it did ultimately did take a stand on the issue, an stand that I personally agree with, but the way they did it was really vain to say the least. They had the serious Lois monologue at the end which was leaving it ambiguous, which I was surprised with and thought that they were actually going to leave it up to the viewers to come to their own conclusions on the route they took which I thought would have been the best way to handle the ending since people of both sides could fantasize about the option they took as seeing eye to eye with the personal philosophy about the matter at hand. But they did decide to stick firm to their stand which others could see as noble as standing up for what they believe in and not giving into pressure, but the way they said it was unforgivable and cowardly to say the best. Just having Peter blurt out after the monologue saying they aborted it at the very end was probably the worst way they could have dealt with the issue. It showed a sign of cowardice towards the issue since throughout the episode, they didn't take a decisive side and the point was to try and show both sides of the issue but the stand they showed at the very end had no previous backing (say for Family Guy being a usually left/liberal show) from the episode and it seems that they were so scared of saying their stance throughout the episode that they decided to blurt it out at the very end leaving no logical steps in how they came to their conclusion.

Now there are some good post 100th episode episodes I like (such as Tales of A Third Grade Nothing, Episode 420 in some respects, and Road to the Multiverse along with their take on the original Star Wars Trilogy) and I think that the previously stated Family Guy formula (cut-aways, pop culture references, & raunchy/crass humor) works best for parodying movies and character development in their original molds [see the first 3 seasons] and the formula can work when they do try to go for controversial topics [see You May Now Kiss The Guy Who ...Uh Receives, Hell Comes to Quahog, Prick Up Your Ears, Boys Do Cry, and Episode 420 in some respects again]. But I do think that the first 5 seasons were the best and do now wish they would have gracefully ended the show with the 100th episode rather than seeing it morph into what it's become now, say for the few previously mentioned exceptions, and I don't say that as a guy who experienced the first 3 seasons as a 18 year old frat boy but as an 11 year old when I first watched it. Even when I was watching the 6th-8th seasons live going through puberty, I couldn't help but notice that much of the original Family Guy formula was thrown out and the parts that remained were ramped up extensively to make it more bloated without realizing that the parts of the original formula the writers threw out where what made it work in the first place and the ramped up remains couldn't tread water without a serious overhaul that lost what Family Guy originally was.

I also see the characters changes as negative. Peter being deemed mentally retarded, which they tried to downplay for the 4th and 5th season until they remembered they said that when they were scripting most of season 6 and onward to this very day. Lois as the subtly violent housewife to the raunchy housewife who, if she were really as smart as she comes off in later seasons, would leave Peter in a heartbeat. Chris as relatively unchanged. (which is for the best) Meg as a somewhat smart uglyish looking individual that can be relateable to just a punching bag. Stewie from a smart, calculated little genius (yes the matricide did eventually get old and they put that to rest in the 100th episode) to a constant gay joke, losing much of his original genius. And Brian who started out as the smartest of the dumb bunch but has morphed into a left/liberal douchebag (not to say that liberals are douchebags but Brian's specific characteristics/mannerisms fueled by his latent rampant left ego) who could be seen as a rallying point to liberals and a parody and joke/accusation to right/conservatives. But the overarching character development of the show is time for another rant and I'm just about out of fuel now. Thank you anyone who read this entire thing and if you want, respond. I'm always game for discussing Family Guy. Cheers.
 

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Bobs' Burgers is the only funny thing left on Sunday nights, with the Simpsons' deterioration, American Dad's descent into vulgarity for the sake of vulgarity, Cleveland's mediocrity, and Family Guy's being... Family Guy. So while My respect has dipped, it's not gone.

*j/k. I'm not that guy.