The Big Picture: It Seems Today ...

Recommended Videos

VulakAerr

New member
Mar 31, 2010
512
0
0
Struggle to understand the backlash against FG. Since coming back it's been frequently hilarious. SM has always said it's just about making people laugh. If you don't like the cut-aways then it's not the show for you but I for one find that the randomness makes me laugh way more easily than a standard sitcom would.

And, like him or loathe him, MacFarlane is just ridiculously talented. It's criminal how much talent he has for writing, animation, singing, voices, business management. The list just goes on. It's insane.
 

Darth_Payn

New member
Aug 5, 2009
2,868
0
0
Fappy said:
I actually don't like much of it past Season 3, but that's just me. I think Family Guy dropped off about the same time that American Dad started to pick up oddly enough. Though I wonder, what're your thoughts on Venture Bros.? Have you ever had the chance to see it? Despite being a pseudo cult hit, many people (myself included) consider it the current kingpin of western animation.
I'm pretty sure he likes it. He's used screenshots from the show from time to time in episodes of The Big Picture.
 

walsfeo

New member
Feb 17, 2010
314
0
0
I'll try not to judge you Bob. It's hard, but I'll try.

What makes me chafe about the family guy is how every episode I've suffered through has been lowest common denominator crap. Yeah, there might be an amusing moment, but I've never seen one episode that I'd considered really good. Or rather the first episode I saw I thought was not horrible, but then the second episode had the same non sequitur crap. If it were the exception, and not the rule, it would be much more amusing.

Mostly though, I find the characters really irritating.
 

WWmelb

New member
Sep 7, 2011
702
0
0
Count_A said:
For my money Archer is the best animated series we have right now. Everything Adam Reed does just gets better and better with each passing season. Plus the ambiguous time period the show plays with is the perfect mix of good ol' fashion Cold War spy game with a dose of modern technology thrown in. The characters are amazing. I can't wait for the next season for some more Pam Poovey, I.S.I.S. agent of badass.
I second this notion. I see far less love for Archer on the interwebs than i thought i would. If peoples haven't seen it, i recommend it.


and on another note:

awww shitsnacks.
 

Clankenbeard

Clerical Error
Mar 29, 2009
544
0
0
Vinge said:
Mention of Bob's burgers, which is a great show, but no mention of Archer? Man I adore Archer. I can't get enough of it.
Seconded! The Archer/Bob's Burgers crossover in the Archer season opener was amazeballs. Who doesn't love <link=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6YIP2pXtzI>McGuirk's voice? And let us not forget the three 2011 episodes of Archer episode with H. John Benjamin AND Patrick Warburton (as Rip Ripley) in the same conversations!
 

SnakeoilSage

New member
Sep 20, 2011
1,211
0
0
I've always felt that this show serves us best by bringing forward something lesser known or often misunderstood and giving us a perspective that helps us to better appreciate it. That being said Family Guy has not gotten better as time has gone on, it has only ripened as a medium through which we see a quirky TV family gradually growing more and more cynical, dysfunctional and heartless, which is pretty much the same reaction people would have if they were forced to put up with Peter Griffin's shit every day. Perhaps unsurprisingly this is the same reaction many nurses feel having to live with aggressively difficult special needs patients.

So forgive me for saying so but jumping on your soapbox now, five years after it would have mattered to tout how much the show has somehow matured into something worth watching every week, seems really weak. I never loved the show, I've stopped hating it, and I've stopped caring about it or anything MacFarlane puts out, and at best I want these characters suffer horribly because I'm sick of them getting away with grotesque acts that they deserve to be punished for, but don't because that kind of unaccountability is supposed to be a punchline we laugh at instead of a painful truth that desperately needs addressing in the real world. And no, Peter punching Lois in the face and her just taking it are not satirical and poignant looks at the deploring realities of domestic violence, that's Seth saying "Now play a Tiny Turner song so we can remember how Ike hit her! It'll be hilarious!" Turning around and making an episode about the men killing an abusive husband only demonstrates that those kind of issues aren't funny and don't belong on an animated TV show.

If you want to bring this kind of thing to "The Big Picture" maybe it would be better to choose shows that have a place in the current zeitgeist. Family Guy is too recent to be nostalgic and too old to be relevant. Instead of poking fun at how Adventure Time or Futurama are these "untouchable" shows even as you pretend to be brave for admitting you like a show people have long since stopped caring about--like calling yourself a Pokemon fan a year after its original fanbase became adults--you can stand up and say "Fuck it, Futurama needed work and I'm sick of Adventure Time being called deep and philosophical when really it's just a laundry list of dramatic cliches stolen from shows like The Walking Dead but given to us through the non-offensive medium of a squiggly cartoon show."
 

Reeve

New member
Feb 8, 2013
292
0
0
I've never watched an episode of Family Guy. I've only ever seen clips on YouTube that people have shown me. And Bob thinks his confession is controversial...
 

MrMixelPixel

New member
Jul 7, 2010
771
0
0
Start... watching Bob's Burgers? Is that a joke? Is that some kind awful... sick... twisted joke? I can't believe he said that to me. I can't ,fucking, believe he said that to me.

Edit: One episode was enough to turn me off of the show. Perhaps my opinion isn't valid according to some. Oh well.
 

JudgeGame

New member
Jan 2, 2013
437
0
0
OMG. An Internet personality actually said they liked Family Guy kind of. OMG. It's raining frogs. OMG. The dead walk the earth. We're so fucked.
 

Grimh

New member
Feb 11, 2009
673
0
0
While I don't go out of my way to watch it, I do enjoy Family Guy.
So you get no hate from me Bob, well you wouldn't get any hate from me if I hated the show either.
 

Snooder

New member
May 12, 2008
77
0
0
I think much of the hate for "New" Family Guy is because many people really, really liked the original first episodes. So much so that the fan support and strong DVD sales brought it back from the dead. And upon it's resurrection, they were expecting to see more of what they liked.

And instead they got shit on in favor of people like MovieBob who didn't even like the original show.

I'll be honest here, I loved the old Family Guy. And I don't like the new episodes all that much. The reasons for this tend to be pretty much the same reasons why MovieBob holds the reverse opinion. The part of Family Guy that was interesting to me WAS the lack of good characterization. Having each character be a thin and exaggerated parody of a stock sitcom trope is what made the show work at it's core. Adding to the characters to give them depth and build a "dramatic" show defeats that whole point. Especially when the "depth" often comes lock-step with lame lowbrow humor and thinly-veiled liberal pulpit-pounding. Lowbrow humor works when the whole thing is an obvious parody, the viewer isn't just laughing at the joke, they're also laughing at the sort of person who thinks that joke is original and funny. When it's played straight on the other hand, you just feel insulted that Seth McFarlane thinks his audience is made up of those very people with terrible taste. Slapping on the liberal bullshit just throws away any good will at all. And I say that as a pretty left-leaning guy.

Look, I don't WANT my animated comedy to take political stances. I don't even like the sorts of people who do that sort of thing in real life because they tend to be either naive idiots or manipulative assholes. That's what makes South Park generally funny even when they address political topics. The ability to understand that we really shouldn't take some things too seriously, and people who do that are wankers.
 

Furrama

New member
Jul 24, 2008
295
0
0
I didn't much like the show before it went off the air, but I watched a lot of it because... it was on and there was nothing else on at that time of night. I really loved the show after it came back, that one season, and maybe a few episodes in the next season, but once they really knew the restraints were off it wasn't really clever or interesting anymore. You need some sort of limits set on you to fight against creatively or you just stagnate... which is what happened. Seth McFarland and his teams just sorta lost that when they became so ubiquitous.

And Then There Were None was a terrible episode, sorry. I refused to watch anymore after that. And the Star Wars parodies were just so boring. Just... boring.
 

pearcinator

New member
Apr 8, 2009
1,210
0
0
Family Guy is for people without a good sense of humour. Their skits miss the mark almost every time.

The friends I have that love it just so happen to be the LEAST naturally funny people I know.

Although I give you points on praising Futurama and Bob's Burgers (especially Futurama which is the best animated TV show ever).
 

Daveman

has tits and is on fire
Jan 8, 2009
4,201
0
0
People hate Family Guy? I got so much shit for not liking it years ago. All the newer stuff is funny as fuck though.
 

Hochmeister

New member
Jun 2, 2011
86
0
0
I used to like Family Guy. Unlike Bob I enjoyed the first three seasons, but also liked the subsequent ones. Many of the episodes you mentioned were also ones I'm particularly fond of. However, the show has been in a decline recently. It's hard to describe, but bar the odd gem of an episode the show just isn't that entertaining. I still kept up, but one of the recent episodes, Call Girl (where Peter tried to cheat on Lois with Lois) infuriated me so much I quit watching it entirely. I'm done with anything produced by McFarlane, and I don't regret it.
 

Callate

New member
Dec 5, 2008
5,114
0
0
Worst animation on TV? Not by a long shot. There's an awful lot of crudely animated, zero-characterization, "we'll make a random comment and stare at you until you laugh" dreck out there.

I've been known to enjoy Family Guy. Some bits are little short of genius, and I have a certain affection for any show that does a shout-out to "The Great Space Coaster" and the pinball-number animation from Sesame Street.

I do wish, however, that it wouldn't so often fall back on the "we're so mean" or "we're so edgy" card. There are certainly places for it- I can definitely take a kind of joy of seeing predictable schmaltzy "aww..." moments skewered, and bits like Stewie coming after Brian for the money he owes him are so over-the-top that they transcend meanness and become a sort of surreal level of slapstick. But more than occasionally, I get the feeling that you get when you're trapped in the audience with a "laugh or everyone will think you're weak" type of comedian. "You think I'll laugh at that? How about, no." At least the jokes usually come fast enough that such off-key notes are just temporary hitches.
 

Zeriah

New member
Mar 26, 2009
359
0
0
I have grown tired of Family Guy, I don't hate but I just don't find it very funny or interesting anymore. However American Dad is still excellent and I find it hilarious. I also really liked Ted so I think Seth is still a very talented guy.

Kind of sad he didn't mention Archer though, that is hands down the best animated sitcom on television.
 

Hero of Lime

Staaay Fresh!
Jun 3, 2013
3,114
0
41
I used to like Family Guy back in the old days, probably around 2007 is when I stopped watching. It had its moments but it lost my interest. Good thing I'm not a fan now since I've heard it's gotten more politically driven in the last few seasons, something that also happened to Simpsons in recent years to take more of the fun out of it.

However, if you like Family Guy, I don't care, lots of people would think I had no taste for the stuff I like, why should I judge someone based on the TV they watch just because I don't like it.