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Thanks for the awesome Mailbag Bob! Always great to have a Q+A session with someone.
 

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Cool stuff, I'm surprised you don't seem unoptimistic about the new superman film and that was probably an awesome message about school for some people to hear
 

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Ooh, I've been looking for a good ridiculously pornographic mainstream literary object to read. Lost Girls seems to fit the bill. Thanks, Bob!
 

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French and British relations are doing pretty ok right now. Whilst Cameron may be stupidly cautious about the UK's place in the EU, he does at times seem to be BFFs with Sarkozy.
Also just because I didn't hate "high school", or as we called it secondary school, doesn't mean that we were the problem. We were able to carve out our niche group of "others" and got along fine with the more stereotypical groups.
 

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I dunno, I actually enjoyed high school and I spent my time between multiple "cliques". Hell, for a good year or so I spent my lunch period playing Magic: The Gathering and still managed to not ostracize myself with the "cool" people. I know that some people have a hard time and admittedly I was friends with some of the more hardcore geeks that certainly did. I think that high school is hard on a lot of people is because at that age people just aren't socially well rounded and a few bad apples do indeed ruin it for everyone.

Oh and speaking of the French I have some like new French rifles for sale. They have never been fired and only dropped once. . . . . I kid I kid.
 

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High school aint too bad, but year 7 was the worst; I was incredibly naive,
and remnants of my past mistakes still sometimes haunt me, but I'm on good terms with about 80% of the year group, so it's bearable.
-Can't wait 'till college
 

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Two episodes of Big Picture this week? are we on a new schedule or did movie bob upload the wrong video or what?

CrazyBlue said:
French and British relations are doing pretty ok right now. Whilst Cameron may be stupidly cautious about the UK's place in the EU, he does at times seem to be BFFs with with Sarkozy.
Also just because I didn't hate "high school" as we called it secondary school doesn't mean that we were the problem. We were able to carve out our niche groups of "others" and got along fine with the more stereotypical groups.
To me the British-French relationship is the same as the British-American relations, in that it is no worse then a sports rivalry.

I also liked high school, and I was a t the very bottom of the social hierarchy. I didn't have to worry about my status going down and I was able to just act naturally. Plus bulling was replaced by gossiping behind peoples backs, so I never had to be the victim of insults and violence like in middle school. Damn was middle school offal.
 

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Nice episode. And I especially liked the advice on high school. I'll back Bob up on that one. If anyone feels caught up in the social crap that you get in school for your teenage years then I can tell you from experience that as soon as you leave school it ends and instantly becomes irrelevant. And you can rest assured that if someone does behave to you in the same way moronic bullies and sociopaths did to you in school then you can be safe in the knowledge that they are automatically being childish, petty and undeserving of attention by anyone with any kind of integrity.
 

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Wow, it was a real mixed bag. I enjoyed it.

France, let's not forget that with a big help from France the US obtained their independence. Yeah, France was acting in self interest to put a dent in the British Empire crown, but still... I don't get the bad rap they get in the US

Highschool was awesome for me, I partied like a monkey on speed and drank like a fish... then again I was not constrained by that silly rule in the States that says that you are mature enough at 18 to put a bullet in an enemy soldier's head, but you cannot drink a beer in a hot-summer day

Also "mumorpuger" :)
 

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Two helpings of Bob? Sweet! It's like Christmas came early this year!

And thank GOD someone holds the same level of disgust I had for High School. Harassment, and the school's blatant inability to crack down on it were some of the things that almost got me expelled for lashing back. Fuck contemporary public education, fuck it to the lowest areas of hell and lock it with a code that randomly changes the password every picosecond.
 

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Secondary school was not hell for me, but given that my entire year was 50-ish students, and every group had some kind of ass-kicker attached to them, no one made anyone else's life greatly miserable.
 

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Well, you surprised me. Not in the way I was hoping for, but you surprised me. Mostly because I wasn't expecting people to ask questions like that.

High school may end, but in my experience, most people these days never seem to grow out of the high school mindset.
 

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Wow.

A lot of that was insightful. Even the random ass crayon question. Which gave me the impression you researched that soley because of the weirdness of the question. You never stop amazing me.

For Batman movies, whatever new director they get for a possible reboot needs to work under the assumption that we all know who Batman is and how his backstory plays out. Then you can just start with recruiting Robin from the first film. And make sure he's actually a kid and not some 20 year old this time got damn it.
 

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I kinda wish this episode was twice as long. I like listening to all the quick random bits while I eat my lunch.
 

MovieBob

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Ever notice how BULLIES (diva's to D.Bs) never have a problem with Highschool?

I guess it's because they ARE the problem.
 

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No shit!

I actually preffered Ang Lee's Hulk to the new one.

Sure it was still bad, but it had more artistic merit in one single scene than The Incredible Hulk had in its entire running time.
 

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Good stuff, but I found high school to be better than elementary/middle school. Mainly cause I moved and no one picked on me. It was no longer "Hur dur, he looks diffrent, beat him up." teachers going "I didn't see anything so nothing happened"(yes, that is apparently something teachers still use to this day) and other teachers going "If you tell anyone about the[literal] beating you just took in basketball, things will get worse."

Although I still had bullies in High School, they were the last people I expected. My friends, they would insult me, go to events without me, made sure I died as quick as possible in any tabletop game, call me a ****** because I couldn't get anyone to go out with me, then if I ever told anyone I liked someone, one of them would start dating her then go "Friends don't date friend's ex-girlfriends." BTW, we were considered the nerds.
 

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In Canada, we still like make fun of french people. At least as long as you're outside Quebec and are not in politics. Even then there is suppose to be a disdain between Quebecois and France.
 

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Hmm, I'm in "high school" now(I live in Norway so I don't know what is the equivalent of high school in the Norwegian school system, but im 17 so i think im around high school age) and i Don't have any problems. Sure i get some sarcastic comments here and there, but it's so seldom and so petty that i don't bother to care.
and bullies would have a hard time bullying me because i'm quite big. not fat just big, so even if they tried I could easily make them say sorry and other embarrassing stuff.

I have had people trying to bully me because i'm a pretty big nerd, but I was stronger than he was sooo..
I feel bad for those that aren't strong enough to stand up for them selves and the only suggestion i can come up with is The Gym.
 

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moviebob said:
High School is hell.
There. Fixed that for you. And your argument that i was probably one of the people who made it hell? HA. that's rich. i had a very small group of friends, i started using drugs, and most of my long term friendships fell apart during my high school years.

They were the best years of my life because my newer friends (which i met in high school) were cooler, or seemed so, and because in middle and elementry school i was teased bullied shunned and turned into an emotional suicidal wreck.

Just ask someone who is alone if they wanna hang out. Ask if they saw a movie recently, a tv show maybe, just break the ice. If you are a loner find other loners, and suddenly you aren't a loner anymore. And go beyond grade level. Hit the younger ones if you can. Freshmen are alot like kindergarteners. if they don't already have friends around them then there's a good chance they don't have friends at all. and if they do have friends, befriends them when you're alone and and meld into the group through them.
 

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Nice, especially the message about high school. Secondary school in england is pretty much the same.

To add to that message; Don't become entitled. After getting through such hell, you expect a lot from life. I got past that s***ty level, where the hell's my reward? It would be nice is karma was so conspicuously present, but it ain't. Things are gonna get better, but not right off the bat, not without effort, and they ain't necessarily going to be the perfection you probably think you (and kinda rightfully) deserve. I played that game for a fair few years, always expecting great things to just kinda come to me because hey, I've done my hard part, the world owes me, right? It's funny how easily that little thought can make you completely ignore how great things actually are, just because you think you deserve more.
 

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High School was awesome!
But then again, I live in Sweden, and we don't have Sport Jocks (and oh, I went to a school with 70% girls who all studied aesthetics, ran around in miniskirts and in general being artsy. Kinda hard to have the classic bullies there).
 

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rayen020 said:
moviebob said:
High School is hell.
There. Fixed that for you. And your argument that i was probably one of the people who made it hell? HA. that's rich. i had a very small group of friends, i started using drugs, and most of my long term friendships fell apart during my high school years.

They were the best years of my life because my newer friends (which i met in high school) were cooler, or seemed so, and because in middle and elementry school i was teased bullied shunned and turned into an emotional suicidal wreck.

Just ask someone who is alone if they wanna hang out. Ask if they saw a movie recently, a tv show maybe, just break the ice. If you are a loner find other loners, and suddenly you aren't a loner anymore. And go beyond grade level. Hit the younger ones if you can. Freshmen are alot like kindergarteners. if they don't already have friends around them then there's a good chance they don't have friends at all. and if they do have friends, befriends them when you're alone and and meld into the group through them.
I think he meant most likely. Also, if you my little story, you'd know it don't work for everyone. Just because they're "lonely" dosen't mean they're nice.
 

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Bob's comments about high school are part of the reason I like Stephen Colbert's "It Gets Better" video; whereas most of the other video-makers addressed LGBT teens specifically, Stephen addressed anyone who's being bullied.

If you're not enjoying your time in school for pretty much any reason, stick with it. It really does get better.

You can graduate, and either go to college, or find a job outside your hometown. I moved across the country after college, so now I don't have to see anyone who gave me crap in school.
 

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Wow I didn't expect Thursday to be the mailbag episode, still two The Big Picture episodes in one week is great.
 

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I really liked high school. Middle school sucked something fierce, though. I guess everyone at my school just chilled the fuck out and stopped being a dick around 9th grade.
 

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Well I'm Canadian and my High School experience wasn't so bad, but if any of those movies about High School students/teenagers etc. have tought me anything it's that American High School is worse than prison and I'm just fucking grateful I didn't go to school there.
 

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RaikuFA said:
rayen020 said:
moviebob said:
High School is hell.
There. Fixed that for you. And your argument that i was probably one of the people who made it hell? HA. that's rich. i had a very small group of friends, i started using drugs, and most of my long term friendships fell apart during my high school years.

They were the best years of my life because my newer friends (which i met in high school) were cooler, or seemed so, and because in middle and elementary school i was teased bullied shunned and turned into an emotional suicidal wreck.

Just ask someone who is alone if they wanna hang out. Ask if they saw a movie recently, a tv show maybe, just break the ice. If you are a loner find other loners, and suddenly you aren't a loner anymore. And go beyond grade level. Hit the younger ones if you can. Freshmen are alot like kindergarteners. if they don't already have friends around them then there's a good chance they don't have friends at all. and if they do have friends, befriends them when you're alone and and meld into the group through them.
I think he meant most likely. Also, if you my little story, you'd know it don't work for everyone. Just because they're "lonely" doesn't mean they're nice.
well obviously if they're a jerk don't keep trying and yeah it won't work for everyone i'm just handing out general advice. And if you'd rather take the i'm miserable and i'm just going to stay miserable and power through to the end of school road more power to you. Sorry that was overly antagonistic of me.

Look i'm just trying to give good general advice to kids that need it. I'm not going to make you take it, especially cause it may not work for you. I just giving out my experience, and how i coped with it. No i don't know your story, and if i did i'd probably change my advice. And if you're still taking bob's advice, it seems alot more important and alot worse than it actually is.
 

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The thing about high schools (and compulsory education in general) is that it's an artificial environment. It's a place where people are required to work for several hours a day in close proximity to people they otherwise would never associate with. Everyone has to take the math classes, so the vastly different peoples have to spend at least part of every day sitting next to each other.

And this becomes a problem because adolescence is also the time when human beings are their most irrational. Hormones permeate the body and make everything seem like a bigger deal than it actually is. So when people are forced to create social groups and links and such, they take it all way too seriously. And if you aren't in any social group, you're basically a sitting duck for the assholes in the student population, at a time when emotional trauma is its most damaging. And you can't escape the thing, because the state mandates this system of collective education, even though the whole reason it was invented (by the Prussians) was to brainwash their populace, regardless of how it'd get done.

Thankfully, high school ends, people go find their specialized areas of work that keep them with like-minded people, and the chemical balance in the brain stabalizes.
 

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I'm loving these questions! You should TOTALLY do more of these mailbag episodes! XD
 

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The Great JT said:
High school should be abolished.
Or at the very least made optional. There are so many kids in high school that don't care about how well they do there, and would probably be better off going into the work force. They sure aren't interested in getting into college or learning anything more the state has to teach them, so why not just get them working?
 

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rayen020 said:
RaikuFA said:
rayen020 said:
moviebob said:
High School is hell.
There. Fixed that for you. And your argument that i was probably one of the people who made it hell? HA. that's rich. i had a very small group of friends, i started using drugs, and most of my long term friendships fell apart during my high school years.

They were the best years of my life because my newer friends (which i met in high school) were cooler, or seemed so, and because in middle and elementary school i was teased bullied shunned and turned into an emotional suicidal wreck.

Just ask someone who is alone if they wanna hang out. Ask if they saw a movie recently, a tv show maybe, just break the ice. If you are a loner find other loners, and suddenly you aren't a loner anymore. And go beyond grade level. Hit the younger ones if you can. Freshmen are alot like kindergarteners. if they don't already have friends around them then there's a good chance they don't have friends at all. and if they do have friends, befriends them when you're alone and and meld into the group through them.
I think he meant most likely. Also, if you my little story, you'd know it don't work for everyone. Just because they're "lonely" doesn't mean they're nice.
well obviously if they're a jerk don't keep trying and yeah it won't work for everyone i'm just handing out general advice. And if you'd rather take the i'm miserable and i'm just going to stay miserable and power through to the end of school road more power to you. Sorry that was overly antagonistic of me.

Look i'm just trying to give good general advice to kids that need it. I'm not going to make you take it, especially cause it may not work for you. I just giving out my experience, and how i coped with it. No i don't know your story, and if i did i'd probably change my advice. And if you're still taking bob's advice, it seems alot more important and alot worse than it actually is.
Actually, I mentioned my little story a few post up from yours. But you are right to a degree but like in my story, my buillies in HS were my friends, other kids diddn't pick on me, just the ppeople I knew. Everyones HS experience is diffrent.
 

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So enjoying high school means that Im now the bully bad guy? thanks bob! I love making blanket statements too!
 

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sorry bob but you are wrong about high school, while i agree it does get better, those of us who had a good time did not bully those of you that did not. hell i was nerdier then the nerds at my school but i was never bullied for it. this whole nerd vs everyone else thing must be from an older generation or specifically a victim complex you yourself have and perpetrate onto other nerds bob. now yes i will acknowledge bullying goes on and happens but people are standing up for people more now and stopping it. the only bullying i see thats gonna stay around is the bullying of gays which only happens in the most backwards of schools and places.
 

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I wonder... Was the "High school ends" statement meant to make everybody think of the Bowling For Soup song? Because I think everyone thought of the Bowling For Soup song.
 

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Could someone help me out here and explain just what it is about American highschools that makes them so different and horrible compared to the equivalent level of schools in the rest of the world?

(Huh....that could've been a good question for Bob)
 

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anthony87 said:
Could someone help me out here and explain just what it is about American highschools that makes them so different and horrible compared to the equivalent level of schools in the rest of the world?

(Huh....that could've been a good question for Bob)
its not that different but instead of optional like in some European countries you are forced to go to high school. i believe europe has 2 seperate schools ( or more) for education, one for those who are prepping to go to Uni and the other for people who want to do things like plumbing and such.
 

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CrazyBlue said:
French and British relations are doing pretty ok right now. Whilst Cameron may be stupidly cautious about the UK's place in the EU, he does at times seem to be BFFs with Sarkozy.
Also just because I didn't hate "high school", or as we called it secondary school, doesn't mean that we were the problem. We were able to carve out our niche group of "others" and got along fine with the more stereotypical groups.
i think britain has a lot less of the "clique" issue of america, in that as a nation, we are slightly more polite, so while their might be some assholes its not altogether hard to get through school fairly unscathed.

Whilst the u.s (appears) to have a real split between cool and uncool

Boil it down to cultural differences.
 

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keiskay said:
anthony87 said:
Could someone help me out here and explain just what it is about American highschools that makes them so different and horrible compared to the equivalent level of schools in the rest of the world?

(Huh....that could've been a good question for Bob)
its not that different but instead of optional like in some European countries you are forced to go to high school. i believe europe has 2 seperate schools ( or more) for education, one for those who are prepping to go to Uni and the other for people who want to do things like plumbing and such.
thats college not high school.

And we have primary school 5-12 (dunno about the 5 number, i was young so it might be 6 i dunno)
secondary school 12-16

thats the end of compulsory

then you have either
sixth form (it basically extends from higher standard secondary schools)
colleges (these can be specialist or quite varied.)

and then you have uni ofc. Which is why we hate americans calling university, college ITS NOT THE SAME.
 

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The cruel irony about Aquaman is while his cartoon moments may have made him "overthrow" Namor, it also made him the joke of the DC Universe and effectively gave in a place in pop culture as the poster boy for superheroes with lousy powers.

You'd think more modern day takes on the character that portray him as a badass would rightfully fix that problem but so far it hasn't yet.
 

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As an English man, yes we are not France's biggest fan. Infact, no we don't like the French at all. We see them as too far up their own arse to enjoy themselves or humour. True fact, you want a Brit to be your friend, tell them a joke and they will be your friend for life.

I'm pretty sure this could just be prejudice coming from a lack of language however. Very few people speak French despite the fact we live very close to them and even have a giant underground train to France.
 

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Thanks for short simple but with somehow interesting pieces and short stories. The crayon was odd though...
 

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High school is torture. I thought about killing myself constantly, because, seriously, if the rest of my life was going to be like that, why live? Fortunately, as Bob says, it's only temporary. Everything gets way cooler.
 

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bahumat42 said:
keiskay said:
anthony87 said:
Could someone help me out here and explain just what it is about American highschools that makes them so different and horrible compared to the equivalent level of schools in the rest of the world?

(Huh....that could've been a good question for Bob)
its not that different but instead of optional like in some European countries you are forced to go to high school. i believe europe has 2 seperate schools ( or more) for education, one for those who are prepping to go to Uni and the other for people who want to do things like plumbing and such.
thats college not high school.

And we have primary school 5-12 (dunno about the 5 number, i was young so it might be 6 i dunno)
secondary school 12-16

thats the end of compulsory

then you have either
sixth form (it basically extends from higher standard secondary schools)
colleges (these can be specialist or quite varied.)

and then you have uni ofc. Which is why we hate americans calling university, college ITS NOT THE SAME.
yes, yes lets get into a ridiculous things each country calls other things. like how a water closet is the place were you shit and bathe, instead of the American room bathroom. or how a flash light is called an electric torch, and a trunk is called a boot.
 

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Yeah, I really liked high school. It helped me to realize that even though I was unique and had no real friends or any sort of 'crowd,' I could still be a really cool guy that everyone liked and respected. A girl that I knew had a similar experience, where in middle school, she was constantly ridiculed and outcast, whereas in high school, she finally found her place, and learned that she shouldn't care about the naysayers.

Sadly, I will probably never have the chance to talk to her again. Oh, what I wouldn't give to still be in high school...
 

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keiskay said:
bahumat42 said:
keiskay said:
anthony87 said:
Could someone help me out here and explain just what it is about American highschools that makes them so different and horrible compared to the equivalent level of schools in the rest of the world?

(Huh....that could've been a good question for Bob)
its not that different but instead of optional like in some European countries you are forced to go to high school. i believe europe has 2 seperate schools ( or more) for education, one for those who are prepping to go to Uni and the other for people who want to do things like plumbing and such.
thats college not high school.

And we have primary school 5-12 (dunno about the 5 number, i was young so it might be 6 i dunno)
secondary school 12-16

thats the end of compulsory

then you have either
sixth form (it basically extends from higher standard secondary schools)
colleges (these can be specialist or quite varied.)

and then you have uni ofc. Which is why we hate americans calling university, college ITS NOT THE SAME.
yes, yes lets get into a ridiculous things each country calls other things. like how a water closet is the place were you shit and bathe, instead of the American room bathroom. or how a flash light is called an electric torch, and a trunk is called a boot.
no that place is called a toilet, or the loo, or in the north "the shitter"

we call rooms where we bathe bathrooms too, only business call the water closets, and thats political correct bunk.

And i take no issue with flash light/torch their both fine. And in the words of david mitchel, i can definitely see that the rear of the car for holding stuff looks more like a trunk than a boot.

Im ok with most americanisms. Just the college thing annoys me, because their clearly different things. (especially confusing as you have community colleges so you have to admit they exist)
 

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bahumat42 said:
keiskay said:
bahumat42 said:
keiskay said:
anthony87 said:
Could someone help me out here and explain just what it is about American highschools that makes them so different and horrible compared to the equivalent level of schools in the rest of the world?

(Huh....that could've been a good question for Bob)
its not that different but instead of optional like in some European countries you are forced to go to high school. i believe europe has 2 seperate schools ( or more) for education, one for those who are prepping to go to Uni and the other for people who want to do things like plumbing and such.
thats college not high school.

And we have primary school 5-12 (dunno about the 5 number, i was young so it might be 6 i dunno)
secondary school 12-16

thats the end of compulsory

then you have either
sixth form (it basically extends from higher standard secondary schools)
colleges (these can be specialist or quite varied.)

and then you have uni ofc. Which is why we hate americans calling university, college ITS NOT THE SAME.
yes, yes lets get into a ridiculous things each country calls other things. like how a water closet is the place were you shit and bathe, instead of the American room bathroom. or how a flash light is called an electric torch, and a trunk is called a boot.
no that place is called a toilet, or the loo, or in the north "the shitter"

we call rooms where we bathe bathrooms too, only business call the water closets, and thats political correct bunk.

And i take no issue with flash light/torch their both fine. And in the words of david mitchel, i can definitely see that the rear of the car for holding stuff looks more like a trunk than a boot.

Im ok with most americanisms. Just the college thing annoys me, because their clearly different things. (especially confusing as you have community colleges so you have to admit they exist)
well are community colleges also offer 2 year degrees you would get in uni as well, but they also run many of the programs for things like fire fighters and police man as well as other jobs like that. so it is a blended system here.
 

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Anyone who is currently sick of their lives because of having a crap time in high school, I highly recommend you read this article [http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-things-you-dont-learn-about-high-school-until-too-late/].

John Cheese is a hilarious, yet very encouraging writer due to his "I've been there before too, I know what you're going through" experience. He has written about abusive families, what it was like beating his alcoholism, growing up in poverty, and more.

He gets my utmost respect, and needs to be more famous. I highly recommend you check out his work.

Here's a link to his full work [http://www.cracked.com/members/John+Cheese/], scroll down to about the middle to get to the bulk of his advice columns.
 

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... Y'know everyone is going to start asking for a Lost Girls Episode now, just to annoy you, right?

I swear, I must be the only bullied nerd that didn't hate high school. Sure, it wasn't perfect, but I had the odd exception that grade school and junior high was my hell instead. Mainly because all the bullies from my grade school followed me to junior high but only about one percent went to my high school. That alone made high school heaven.
 

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I didn't give anyone a bad time, nor did I get a bad time in High School.

Well, I gave people a horrible time who decided to cross the scary Black guy...

But the point is, there is (now?) a *huge* grey area filled with huge groups of kids who aren't into annoying others at all. I was left alone by every group in the three high schools I've been in. Left alone or spammed with people hitting on me. <--Which is better than the Hollywood bullying I've seen....on TV.
 

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Actually the UK and France get on really quite well. The whole love hate relationship we project is a little on the nose truth be told. The countries we feel closest to, we tend to tongue in cheek mock. That's kind of what we do. We even do it amongst other members of the UK. Besides the very real reasons that we've had tension in the past. You'll find that most of the vitriol is sarcastic.

Fuck, we even do it amongst ourselves within England, the whole North south divide thing. We don't genuinely hate each other. It's just another thing to call someone for. Even a town over can be a target of putdowns.

Also, New Orleans Bob. That's pretty much were all the french went in the US.

And I also think there's a massive difference between American High School and British Secondary School. Because we didn't have the very bold clique divide that we always see in films/tv about American High Schools.

I was friends with people who were part of all different cliques. Close friends too.

After the first year of constant fisty-cuffs, everyone just seemed to get on. There were obviously people that we didn't get on with, but we just ignored each other if that was the case. And any bullies were usually met with someone stronger who gave em a crack round the ear whenever they tried bullying a weaker kid. Either from the years above or even within the same year.

It was probably one the best times of my life truth be told. Complete lack of worrying and responsibility.

Easy days.
 

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Sadly, I will probably never have the chance to talk to her again. Oh, what I wouldn't give to still be in high school...
What about seeing if she has a Facebook. D:
 

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Have to comment on the television father subject. It seems that there might be a swinging pendulum on this one. In early radio programs of the 1940-50's, the father figure was a bumbling idiot. "Father Knows Best" actually started as such a program. I recently listened to one episode where the father reorganized the house while everyone was on vacation and the family had to deal with all the problems it caused when they got back. Radio programs of the time showed the father figure as a fool that tried to rudely rule over his family with an iron fist while the rest of the family took it with reason and patience. Later television programs made the fathers more caring with sage advice. With time they started going back to the bumbling idiots. Interestingly enough, Homer isn't exactly an original character. Going back to early radio, "The Great Gildersleeve" radio programs are like audio extracts of The Simpsons. You can find the originals online for free if you want to check them out.
 

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Loved the bonus, and the pacing of the episode was really great. Please do more!
 

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The cruel irony about Aquaman is while his cartoon moments may have made him "overthrow" Namor, it also made him the joke of the DC Universe and effectively gave in a place in pop culture as the poster boy for superheroes with lousy powers.

You'd think more modern day takes on the character that portray him as a badass would rightfully fix that problem but so far it hasn't yet.

You think for a start they'd stop calling him 'Aquaman.'

I mean the comics I've seen with him in even have his own people in Atlantas calling him that. Despite that that makes no fucking sense.
 

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Love the mail bag episode do more please. Also I don't know but to me high school was a mix bag of the good and bad. Freshmen and sophmore year where kind of hell but Junior year I had good friend, good teachers, I was passing classes, rarly did anyone bother me. Then I left to college and I like it a whole lot more. So yeah school can be rough but like Bob said IT ENDS.
 

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Not a bad one, very interesting answers. I honestly didn't know some of that.
 

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Ah, so this is what The Escapist is going to do until they get the guy who does the Errant Signal show on Youtube on to do Thursdays? Sounds good either way.

It would be interesting to have two Bob-like people on the site for more plurality.

P.S, Escapist, if you're not looking at signing him to fill the Thursday gap:
please look at signing him to take over Thursdays.
 

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I had no idea what "Lost Girls" was, but after looking it up on Wikipedia, I kinda wish you would do something about it.
 

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The Great JT said:
High school should be abolished.
Or at the very least made optional. There are so many kids in high school that don't care about how well they do there, and would probably be better off going into the work force. They sure aren't interested in getting into college or learning anything more the state has to teach them, so why not just get them working?
Well at 16 you can drop out so its kind of optional. Not much you can do though most places want at least a GED especially when you're older.

For me high school was a breeze in regards to high school "politics." I got along with most people because I was funny. I didn't have to make jokes at other peoples expense because I was raised better. Most of the people who spent all their time being popular never really amounted to much. Only person I can think of is a guy who made it to the NFL and even then it was for a practice team and they make way less than the actual team with the same health risks.
 

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Hmmm... What's this Lost Girls thing that's too weird for Bob?

Let's check Wikipedia...

Lost Girls is a graphic novel depicting the sexually explicit adventures of three important female fictional characters of the late 19th and early 20th century: Alice from Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, Dorothy Gale from The Wizard of Oz and Wendy Darling from Peter Pan. They meet as adults in 1913 and describe and share some of their erotic adventures with each other.
 

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Someone actually had to ask if you're evil?
Your dislike of the Yankees and Giants has made that fact abundantly clear.
 

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"High school is hell!"
I found High School to be hell mostly due to the fact I felt like I was surrounded by total idiots. Yeah, I know that makes me sound snobbish and pretentious. I apologize for that, but I really couldn't help it. Especially, given I had classmates that just reinforced this feeling.
For example, I had one kid who tried to cheat on a test by erasing my name off my paper and put in his own. He forgot two things:
1) That my handwriting was vastly different from his own.
2) He forgot to erase my last name and put his down... I'm not kidding.



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Also, thanks for giving the Hulk movie the credit it was due.
It was, and still is, a very underrated movie.
 

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Could someone help me out here and explain just what it is about American highschools that makes them so different and horrible compared to the equivalent level of schools in the rest of the world?
Reading [a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Third_Wave_(Toffler)"]The Third Wave by Alvin Toffler[/a] would probably provide some good explanation for you. Essentially, the criticism is that high school was primarily designed as a means to prepare children for factory and assembly line work. For example, get you accustomed to arriving at your desk at specific times, taking instruction from your teacher/supervisor, perform repetitive tasks, take scheduled breaks of specific duration, etc.

If you get caught up working in government bureaucracy, then you might find that "high school" dynamics continue to apply to you. So consider that a warning to think about your career, unless you're one of the ones that enjoyed high school and would like to continue that until retirement.
 

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French and British relations are doing pretty ok right now. Whilst Cameron may be stupidly cautious about the UK's place in the EU, he does at times seem to be BFFs with Sarkozy.
I'm pretty sure Bob is really off on his assumptions. All those immigrations he listed were hated and discriminated against by the natives especially the Chinese and often times they were assimilated anyway keeping their culture out. The thing about France is more about the hostility its people have towards America i.e. keeping Americans out of hotels to protest their government. Of all countries why France that would seem like a joke considering they don't have much of a good foreign policy track record either and probably mostly are biased since they're not the ones leading the world this time. Thus when America does they feel a sort of competition to prove their nationalism right. This could be said about Britain though.

It's not like there are no reasons to hate America, there definitely are, but if you're Britain or France I don't see why there would be any logical ones.
 

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Wow, it was a real mixed bag. I enjoyed it.

France, let's not forget that with a big help from France the US obtained their independence. Yeah, France was acting in self interest to put a dent in the British Empire crown, but still... I don't get the bad rap they get in the US

Highschool was awesome for me, I partied like a monkey on speed and drank like a fish... then again I was not constrained by that silly rule in the States that says that you are mature enough at 18 to put a bullet in an enemy soldier's head, but you cannot drink a beer in a hot-summer day

Also "mumorpuger" :)
France is viewed as a group of backstabbers and with good reason. What the generation after mine is not learning due to historical revisionism is that during World War II France mostly sided with the Nazis. There were French resistance fighters and such, but nothing like the popular fiction perpetuated after the fact. Today history is taught in a politically correct fashion where somehow a small group of Germans somehow managed to simultaneously conquer and hold most of Europe as omnipresent fascist occupiers with heroic resistance fighters everywhere, when really that isn't the case. The truth is that the overwhelming majority of Germany was behind Hitler, and a lot of the nations that he conquered more or less wound up siding with him willingly, the guy was highly charismatic and an international man of the year, and not quite as crazy as people like to let on after the fact. If the way things are presented in today's media and even educational centers were true, he could never have held this together due to a simple lack of manpower, as opposed to coming two milimeters away from conquering the entire world. It's just today we want to present the Germans as our friends so we play up the resistance in germany, we overlook the role nations like Italy and Romania played, and we pretty much hold to a diplomatic agreement with France.

See, what happened with France is that after some relatively token resistance it decided to surrender to Hitler and more or less welcomed the Germans. It wound up providing both troops and logistical support for other areas he was campaigning in. When the tide of the war began to turn France realized that whether Germany won or lost it was going to get decimated, so it pretty much switched sides. This saved the allies a lot of time, trouble, and manpower and in return the war department more or less agreed to present France as a straightforward ally from that point onward to present historical backlash, and what you learn now is more or less part of that. Basically France played both sides and did whatever benefitted France at the moment. This is where the "Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys" comes from, France having arguably surrendered TWICE in World War II, first to germany, and then to the allies. The stereotype kind of being of the fat Frenchman telling people whatever they want to hear
while he munches his cheese and just lets everything go to hell around him.

I learned this while in school since I'm just old enough to have had history teachers who were veterans of World War II, and really they had some interesting things to say about it. I think a lot of Franco-American relations comes from the perceptions of "The Greatest Generation", and to a lesser extent from some of the younger Baby Boomers raised by them and closer to those events. Things change as the changes to the educational system and history become the truth te younger generation learns... and really that's the point of historical reinventionism.

Franco-American relations are not helped by things like the "Oil For Food Scandal" (look it up, I've posted links before, and it's fairly complicated). In short France was one of the few nations that opposed the "War On Terror" going into Iraq, and did so on grounds of being "peace loving". Later we found after going into Iraq that France had been exploiting the "Oil For Food" program to engage in general trade with an otherwise embargoed country. The point of the program being to prevent the people from starving while otherwise trying to hammer it's economy since Iraq was dependant on food imports. The whole "we will not use food as a weapon" schtick which is something I could say a lot about on it's own. Basically for all of it's pretensions of other reasons, France was not supporting the effort because it (this does not go for everyone, but I believe Germany was involved to an extent as well) was making money in violation of treaties, and feared an invasion would out this (which it did) and put an end to that trade at the very least. France being concerned over the new Iraqi goverment acknowleging debts owed to France didn't help matters much either.

Now, before anyone argues with me, I'm just explaining why a lot of people think what they do. If you happen to disagree or have learned things differantly that's fine, I'm just saying I understand the mentality and a lot of the history behind it. The bottom line is that France is viewed as largely being fair weather friends, who tend to only act in their own immediate best interests and don't really care about what happens to anyone else. A bunch of guys who will be your buddy one second, but then slide a knife into your back if they see a better deal from somewhere else.

Is this reputation fairly deserved, with the stories being entirely accurate? That goes beyond the scope of the point I'm making. All I'll say is that while I don't consider the French enemies, I am very wary of trusting them as a nation.

Before anyone gets into US Bashing, I will say that with the US our issue in counterpoint is mostly that we're a group of meddlers who tend to work through proxies by empowering groups of people we think woll change things more to our interests or what we consider to be the greater good, oftentimes with unforseen consequences. We also are viewed as having a sort of "Cowboy" mentality where we're willing to do whatever we think is right, regardless of
the existing social order or reasons for events. We can however be trusted, and oddly as much as a lot of people dislike us for it, things like our support of Isreal (when it would be much easier to just throw it to the dogs, which a lot of people want us to do) shows that we generally honor our agreements even when it becomes incredibly inconveinent to do so. There are good points and bad points to this. However when you consider the US tendencies you can see why having a reputation for nearly complete self interest doesn't always sit well.

All of this also plays to a lot of stereotypes you see like the French temptresses and schemers and such throughout the media, and it's very rare to see a French hero, and if you do see one (in a supporting role if nothing else) it's usually still in the role of a cunning schemer. In comparison while we have our massive disagreements with the UK for example, you'll notice that British heroes are portrayed somewhat differantly and accross a wider gamut due to better relations with that nation. As odd as it might sound that we get along better with the culture we rebelled against, it's still our parent culture, and again everything was still pretty straightforward between us. The French, the guys who helped us, arguably did that entirely out of self interest and that helps mitigate a lot of the gratitude.
 

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I don't know what you mean... it's perfectly legal to make money off MMOs nowadays. It goes against the TOS, but those aren't legally binding. And there's no law that says you can't get money in exchange for virtual goods. In fact, a few countries have ruled that stealing virtual goods is a crime, so it follows that selling virtual goods is just a sale.

I think you mean, a game that is designed in such a way that it allows people to make money from it in such a way that it doesn't disrupt gameplay. I guess it would be like a freemium game, only instead of the devs letting you give them money in exchange for high-level characters/equipment/spells/spices, you have tools in place through which players can grind for those stuff and then sell through the game to others, with the devs taking a small cut.

By the way, thank you for reminding me to go buy Neal Stephenson's REAMDE. I almost forgot.
 

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Thank you, Bob, for another great (if brief) episode. While I may not agree with everything you say, you never fail to say your mind eloquently and reasonably. Well played, sir.
 

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I don't find high school to be hell, and I'm certainly not the one making it a hell for other people. Maybe I just got lucky by being about in the middle of the popularity hierarchy having enough friends on both sides to make most other people just leave me alone.
 

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As an Englishman I don't know what the deal is with the hate between us and the French. I understand with the older generations sure, the people who went through hard times but with the young? The goverment I sort of get aswell what with the Euro buisness and all that stigma with money lending but why people from 40 down have any sort of negative feelings towards them just sort of weirds me out. I get that some people are just racist tossers but you do see it alot.
 

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Warforger said:
CrazyBlue said:
French and British relations are doing pretty ok right now. Whilst Cameron may be stupidly cautious about the UK's place in the EU, he does at times seem to be BFFs with Sarkozy.
I'm pretty sure Bob is really off on his assumptions. All those immigrations he listed were hated and discriminated against by the natives especially the Chinese and often times they were assimilated anyway keeping their culture out. The thing about France is more about the hostility its people have towards America i.e. keeping Americans out of hotels to protest their government. Of all countries why France that would seem like a joke considering they don't have much of a good foreign policy track record either and probably mostly are biased since they're not the ones leading the world this time. Thus when America does they feel a sort of competition to prove their nationalism right. This could be said about Britain though.

It's not like there are no reasons to hate America, there definitely are, but if you're Britain or France I don't see why there would be any logical ones.
I think its got something to do with the long history we have together. When you think about it, in terms of mordern recorded history, the UK and France have one of longest running relationships. It may be a sort of sibling rivalry but I don't really know enough on the subject, im just thinking out loud.
 

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Yeah I don't know what high-school is like in the U.S but over here it's probably as good as university (Better in my case). No I'm not a bully Bob.
 

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Sibling rivalry is a good way of putting it.

Besides France and the UK have one of the longest formal alliances in place today, plus our armed forces are to an extent interconnected. Also in response to the French surrender monkey's, I think it is overstated to suggest that they willing wanted German occupation. Also that they surrendered to the allies that's a new and "interesting" way of putting it. France surrendered because they saw it as the rational thing to do at the time, that doesn't make it right, but it might have saved a lot of lives.
 

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And if you can get through High School without getting or getting someone else pregnant, your mid twenties will be much MUCH easier.
 

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The US has always had a love / hate relationship with France. We loved them after the revolutionary war, they loved us after WW2. Ironically after the Iraq war, which sent the US on a PR nose dive that is quite literally so bad that there is no comparison in modern history, it was actually France that stayed good friends with us through it. Not Germany, not GB (though, we did kind of lie to get them into Iraq. Woops.) no, France.

The major reason France has always remained relatively distinct is because, in really simple terms, they're as arrogant about their culture as the US is of it's own. The reason why its not hard to fine German, Italian, Greek, Russian, and tens of hundreds of other ethnic sub-cultures in the US is because they integrated. French not so much. For whatever reason the French take such a great pride in their culture, right down to the language (seriously, compare the folks that regulate what's "French" in terms of language compared to those who decide what's "English.") that it never really merged with US culture beyond snorts, escargot and baguette.

The way to beat WoW is to not be WoW. The fundamental problem with the MMO market in terms of competition is that because of the time sinks almost mandated by the genre (because time spent means more months involved, which means more subscriptions) most people will only have one pet MMO they play. Beyond that? Nah-ah. What's more, the video game industry is something that thrives on similarities. Today we have generic brown n' bloom n' gray n' gunmetal first person shooter Z. 15 years ago? Everyone wanted to be Mario and Sonic. So for the seven years WoW's been out (and roughly a decade it's been in development) it's been building up it's content, and refining it's method of operation. In the old world of MMO's where success was measured in hundreds of thousands of subscribers, the model of ripping off other's work was viable because budgets were small, and teams smaller. Today? Well, WoW's settled comfortably at between 8 and 12 million active subscribers. They have the team and the budget to crush anyone trying to emulate them, which is how you can make sense of their prolonged market dominance.
 

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High school really *is* hell. Props for answering "off-thread" questions, Bob.
 
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As per topic of high-school. You should probably underline that it is the model of a high-school created by the US education system and not "high-school" in general. I know it sounds simple but... countries differ from one another. The experience is much more bearable in European schools (at least central Europe - my experience), and usually simply fantastic in International Schools far removed from western countries (again, my experience).
 

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I have to admit, I'm really fortunate I go to the high school I go to. Armenians tend to leave each other alone and are generally friendly even to those outside their clique. The jocks leave the nerds alone, and vice versa. Thankfully, there is a pretty healthy amount of nerds in my tiny school so there is never any shortage of conversation. Thankfully, the "High School of Hell" trope is forum to me.

Personally, I'm an Earl Grey man myself.


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Highschool was awesome for me, I partied like a monkey on speed and drank like a fish... then again I was not constrained by that silly rule in the States that says that you are mature enough at 18 to put a bullet in an enemy soldier's head, but you cannot drink a beer in a hot-summer day
Hey, let's start a flame war everybody!
 

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The most recent backlash about France comes in big part from the fact Rupert Murdoch tried to purchase (I believe) Canal+ (a French channel) and was rejected. Right afterward, since it coincided with France not joining the war in Iraq, a lot of anti-French sentiment appeared on Fox News, and was later spread out, which is why there seems to have been so much more ager against the French than any other nation that decided not to go to Iraq.

There are older issues though, and a lot of them have to do with big difference in culture, which cause American people to seem rude to French people and French people to seem rude to Americans.

Anecdotal evidence, when in a pizzeria in France my boyfriend noted that they brought his pizza uncut, and that it would never be done in the US. Me and my friend, both French, commented at the same time that pre-cutting it would be extremely insulting: it would insinuate we can't cut our own food.
Delivery is different because it doesn't assume you have access to cutlery, though.

Other example, it took me years of living in the US before I stopped finding it extremely rude that waiters in restaurants keep showing up uncalled, asking if everything is going well and refilling your drink. For years my only thought was "how rude, why won't they leave me alone, I'm trying to enjoy a meal here", but now I've realised that's just how things work in the US. I still don't like it, but it doesn't grate my nerves as much.

And a lot of the anti-French jokes and stereotypes come from WWII or post WWII, and you can see they haven't changed much since the handbook 112 gripes about the French [http://www.112gripes.com/]
 

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Is public high school really that terrible, people? Because I was slightly disappointed by how ordinary my high school years were. There was no bullying, no malicious pranks, no stereotyped cliques that were exclusive to their own groups with no interaction, the nerds were praised for their intellect just as often as the jocks were for their physical ability, and nobody acted like a jerk any more than you would find in the real world.

Frankly, high school was a boring melting pot of harmony and fellowship. Damn it, our 'jocks' were even among the nicest guys in the entire school. I've gotta say that I'm just happy it's an experience I seem to have missed out on.

Oh, and nice video. I'm especially looking forward to your Intermission.
 

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High School sucked for me, but I'm in college now and its much better. Middle school also sucked.
 

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I didn't think high school was that bad. I didn't really talk to anyone for four years and I considered that a minor win. Compared to junior high school and a lot of college, high school was a cakewalk. By virtue of just showing up, I was in a much better position than most of my classmates and I never had to bring home "homework" because of all the free time before classes, free time in classes, and numerous study halls. Junior high school was a nightmare of being bogged down in pointless busy work I could never catch up on, very bitter and angry teachers who threatened us daily, bullies, puberty, and the utter impossibility of romantic relationships or sex (being an "early bloomer" sucks). I still didn't get any in high school or college, but at least the potential was there without feeling like a pedophile. And college sucks because the classes are often a lot longer, there are irritating online classes with their "discussion questions," night classes, finals, smug professors with their heads up their asses, monopolizing of your time, and the simple fact that you have to pay for all that bullshit.

So yay, for high school. I almost got through a whole post without mentioning my godawful post college minimum wage job from which I haven't a raise for four years. It doesn't get better kids. It really doesn't. I regret not killing myself in fourth grade back when I had the nerve.
 

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I'm having a good time in high school... I'm not sure if it's being from a different generation than you moviebob or if its because you put yourself in the position of the victim but I'm pretty sure that me having a good time in high school hasn't made anybody's lives miserable. Actually I see hardly any bullying general at my school, If you don't like someone there you just don't talk to them and they'll leave you alone as opposed to dunking their head in a toilet.
Your little comments about high school have given me an image of you being like a nerd in a 90's sitcom and It's kind of interesting so, could you perhaps do an episode of your high school experience sometime?
 

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CrazyBlue said:
Sibling rivalry is a good way of putting it.
Heck of a rivalry, though. I remember when I visited England a few years ago, it seemed like the more French ass you kicked in life, the better the monument you got in death.

CrazyBlue said:
Besides France and the UK have one of the longest formal alliances in place today, plus our armed forces are to an extent interconnected. Also in response to the French surrender monkey's, I think it is overstated to suggest that they willing wanted German occupation. Also that they surrendered to the allies that's a new and "interesting" way of putting it. France surrendered because they saw it as the rational thing to do at the time, that doesn't make it right, but it might have saved a lot of lives.
That's just it. British pop culture has always taken jabs at the French. In American pop culture between WWII and 9/11, there is no major anti-French sentiment. There are plenty of comedic French stereotypes, but no wholesale vilification. I think people understood that France shared a land border with Germany, and had the UK or US not had deep water and strong navies standing between them and the Wehrmact, they probably wouldn't have fared very well either in 1940. You don't see widespread vilification of the French in American media until the lead-up to the invasion of Iraq.
 

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Casual Shinji said:
No shit!

I actually preffered Ang Lee's Hulk to the new one.

Sure it was still bad, but it had more artistic merit in one single scene than The Incredible Hulk had in its entire running time.
I was also pleasantly surprised by the mention of Hulk. Honestly I never watched ALL of it but it seemed alright. It seemed most of the complaints were that it wasn't a mindless action movie (which seems completely at odds with the whole great superhero movies getting recognition as great movies in general thing).
 

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There's a paint called "Santa's Flesh" in craft stores right this very minute.

Now that's creepy.
 

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As a Canadian, I do have to say that some of us (myself included in some case), tend to view French Canadians in a poor light.

Take the recent protests in Quebec for example. They're up in arms over tuition increases. Why I don't like this: before the increases, Quebecois university students paid less then the national average, way less, with the increases, they're paying what the rest of the nation pays on average. They just want a free ride off the government coffers.

Then there's the whole Quebec Sovereignty movement. While the issue has pretty much all but died out (The Bloc party was all but decimated in the last federal election, and a recent poll shows that over 70% of Quebecois are against separating) As a patriot who's had family defend this country in two world wars (My great great uncle is buried in Flanders), Korea, and several peacekeeping missions, just sours my opinion on the whole issue.

Although, should they separate anyways, the First Nations who hold treaty rights to 90% of the Province (and most of its natural resources) wouldn't, and my Father, who's retired military, says we'd just invade and take the land back anyways.

While, yes, Canada is a Bi-Lingual country, and I've lived in Alberta, Manitoba, Ontario, Nova Scotia, and I've been pretty much every where else, I can say this, there are only three places where French influence is prevalent: Quebec, New Brunswick (Canada's only Bi-Lingual province), and any government building. Outside of there, you'd be hard pressed to find anything where the french has any influence.
 

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Another great video, love these bite-sized nuggets!

I hope there is never a faithful portrayal of Batman in movies, Robin sucks! And Batman is actually kind of a dick, the more I hear about him the closer he seems to Rorschach. Maybe I just don't get super heroes.
 

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Therumancer said:
Triaed said:
Wow, it was a real mixed bag. I enjoyed it.

France, let's not forget that with a big help from France the US obtained their independence. Yeah, France was acting in self interest to put a dent in the British Empire crown, but still... I don't get the bad rap they get in the US

Highschool was awesome for me, I partied like a monkey on speed and drank like a fish... then again I was not constrained by that silly rule in the States that says that you are mature enough at 18 to put a bullet in an enemy soldier's head, but you cannot drink a beer in a hot-summer day

Also "mumorpuger" :)
France is viewed as a group of backstabbers and with good reason.
---snip--- sorry for the scissors.
The French, the guys who helped us, arguably did that entirely out of self interest and that helps mitigate a lot of the gratitude.
That is the way you were taught history wherever you are from. You are very entitled to your opinion.
 

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I always thought the rivalry between England and France was the reason to the animosity in America. After all, they shared the center of the civilized western world during centuries and there are even books dedicated to their rivalry (A Tale of Two Cities). When British emigrated to America and founded the US, they carry their prejudice with them.
 

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Gatx said:
Casual Shinji said:
No shit!

I actually preffered Ang Lee's Hulk to the new one.

Sure it was still bad, but it had more artistic merit in one single scene than The Incredible Hulk had in its entire running time.
I was also pleasantly surprised by the mention of Hulk. Honestly I never watched ALL of it but it seemed alright. It seemed most of the complaints were that it wasn't a mindless action movie (which seems completely at odds with the whole great superhero movies getting recognition as great movies in general thing).
I am of the opinion that the problem was not that it wasn't a mindless action movie, but that the parts that weren't were original of the movie (not adapted from the comic book) and were not very good.

While I don't think the origins story of the comic is very good, the changes were obviously introduced to add extra drama to the character, to make him closer to the movies Ang Lee usually directs and, above all, made very little sense. Think of it like a previous version of the whole debacle of Michael Bay making Teenage Alien Ninja Turtles.

Needless to say, I don't agree with Bob in that one.
 

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anthony87 said:
Could someone help me out here and explain just what it is about American highschools that makes them so different and horrible compared to the equivalent level of schools in the rest of the world?
Reading [a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Third_Wave_(Toffler)"]The Third Wave by Alvin Toffler[/a] would probably provide some good explanation for you. Essentially, the criticism is that high school was primarily designed as a means to prepare children for factory and assembly line work. For example, get you accustomed to arriving at your desk at specific times, taking instruction from your teacher/supervisor, perform repetitive tasks, take scheduled breaks of specific duration, etc.

If you get caught up working in government bureaucracy, then you might find that "high school" dynamics continue to apply to you. So consider that a warning to think about your career, unless you're one of the ones that enjoyed high school and would like to continue that until retirement.
That sounds awfully close to any other high school, not restricted to Americans...

I think its mostly because they function as miniature social ecosystem, with some of the people that use these forums being placed at the bottom of the social pyramid (bellow the bullies, the shallow girls, etc). I know it sounds cliche, but its accurate at points and retroactively feeds the stereotypes. Also, I don't think its so different in other parts of the world.
 

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Actually, I'd like to expand upon that "why men are portrayed as idiots", and what I've come to feel:

In the '50s, TV portrayed the ideal family. A strong, supportive, bread-winning father; a nurturing (if sometimes prone to overstep her bounds) beautiful housewife and mother; and a few scamp kids. This was the idealistic portrayal of men and their family. They were, as the saying goes, king of the castle.

But I still think, to a degree, TV portrays a fantasy life. Rather than having a super dad and father, he's average. He's fat, he's slobby, he's lazy, he's not terribly bright--and yet he has a smoking hot wife (who also makes money now), a gorgeous house in a gorgeous neighborhood, lots of friends, and a comfortable income (even if he works for a low-paying menial job). He usually isn't very affectionate or caring for his family, and yet a single act of kindness will remind his family that, really, despite all his faults, they still love him. He slacks off at his job, but you'll only occasionally get an episode dealing with a job crisis (then everything is back to the status quo).

This is another kind of "idealism". A kind where the man doesn't have to work hard, be affectionate, can sit around and watch TV and drink beer, and yet have a wonderful life. The worst thing that happens is occasionally bratty kids and a nagging wife.
 

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... huh.

The second half of high school was actually ok for me.

It was middle school that left me sobbing.
 

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Bluecho said:
The Great JT said:
High school should be abolished.
Or at the very least made optional. There are so many kids in high school that don't care about how well they do there, and would probably be better off going into the work force. They sure aren't interested in getting into college or learning anything more the state has to teach them, so why not just get them working?
1) Because they will probably sincerely regret it later on in life when they're stuck in a dead end job and have little-to-no upward mobility.

2) Because an education isn't just a means to making money but a requisite for being an informed member of a democratic society.

3) Because minors cannot legally make their own decisions for a reason, they're too immature. (This is obviously related to point #1, but is important enough to mention separately.)

4) The state has a say for the same reason that it is illegal to beat or starve your children. Children are people and not property of their parents, but they do not have the full rational capacity to take care of themselves and make their own decisions, so they are reliant upon their parents. The state is there to ensure that their rights are protected.

(Things like the limited education that Amish students get should be illegal, religious freedom doesn't trump a person's right to an education or health care, though it is still very important. That's also why children of Jehovah's witnesses should be given transfusions in spite of their parent's religious views, which is legal in the UK, but not as much in the US.)
 

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I could have sworn Crayola didn't rename flesh to peach till damn near the 90's Or maybe I just had really really old crayons. meh whatever.
 

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While I do agree high school may be unpleasant compared to your later years in life, it's really hard to notice because it's still a vast improvement over what comes right before it.

High school may be Hell, but compared to middle school it's Heaven.
 

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Maybe it was just me, but high school wasn't bad. I had a friends and a part time job, and things to do and I was by no means a "cool kid." But then again I didn't and still don't let stress get to me all that bad.
 

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High school is tolerable if you remember few things
1. Numbers=strength
2. Fear is their weapon of choice (even when it gets physical)
3. Humor is best way to deal with most things
4. Sooner or later it ends, so don't do anything stupid
So as long as you follow these simple guidelines you should be ok.
 

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Sorry Bob, Highschool sure does suck, but only if you live in the US. In Austria for example, a bully would get expelled pretty fast if a few complains come in and there is no social pressure from other students.
 

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Sorry Bob, Highschool sure does suck, but only if you live in the US. In Austria for example, a bully would get expelled pretty fast if a few complains come in and there is no social pressure from other students.
My feelings too. 90+% of the complaints I hear are US based, the majority of the rest of the world seems to be a-okay. I'm from the UK and there were three bullies in my school that I ever knew of, one was expelled, one reformed after about a year (primarily by me) and the other one attempted to bully me, we had an ongoing mini-war for about a year and then he finally backed down and grudgingly backed off trying to hurt others.

As for us and France, well it's more like a sports rivalry but you'll often find them being negatively portrayed, it's mostly tongue in cheek but that can be hard to miss and sometimes it's a genuine negative sentiment, left over from the centuries of war between us and their behaviour in WW2 (which wasn't quite as gallant as modern media portrays).
 

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Maybe things have changed a bit in the decade+ since I graduated, but even for a scrawny, geeky, marching bando like me, High School was pretty fun. I had friends in the band, natch, made friends on the football team, since we played their halftime shows, and shared a practice field. In hanging out with the football guys, spent time hanging out with the cheerleaders.

So yeah, good times.
 

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to amswer Matthew Anderson in th FB comments and to vent some steam

I have no victim complex, And Matthew, How many people did you actually help? The Nuremberg defence is the one most commonly associated with bullies who while in there ivory towers of social acceptance ignore the plight of the downtrodden Allen Probably was berated by people like your friends and you watched, you were just blind to the reality of what you were doing.
If you got through HS with out any emotional scars then congratulations just do not call every one who got mother F#c#%$ PTSD a person with a ?victim complex???.


ReiverCorrupter said:
Bluecho said:
The Great JT said:
High school should be abolished.
Or at the very least made optional. There are so many kids in high school that don't care about how well they do there, and would probably be better off going into the work force. They sure aren't interested in getting into college or learning anything more the state has to teach them, so why not just get them working?
1) Because they will probably sincerely regret it later on in life when they're stuck in a dead end job and have little-to-no upward mobility.

2) Because an education isn't just a means to making money but a requisite for being an informed member of a democratic society.

3) Because minors cannot legally make their own decisions for a reason, they're too immature. (This is obviously related to point #1, but is important enough to mention separately.)

4) The state has a say for the same reason that it is illegal to beat or starve your children. Children are people and not property of their parents, but they do not have the full rational capacity to take care of themselves and make their own decisions, so they are reliant upon their parents. The state is there to ensure that their rights are protected.

(Things like the limited education that Amish students get should be illegal, religious freedom doesn't trump a person's right to an education or health care, though it is still very important. That's also why children of Jehovah's witnesses should be given transfusions in spite of their parent's religious views, which is legal in the UK, but not as much in the US.)
Well the hsc is not that hard to get, as long as you can read, add 15 + 70 then you are ready for college in Australia? It is only after college when your marks are what make you?..
 

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I don't know, Bob. I think you could maturely handle doing an episode about Lost Girls.

There's certainly enough interesting material there. Look at it as a challenge!
 

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I went to a nerd focused high school so high school it was some of my best years. It was there are learned how important being yourself is.
 

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I don't know which high school Bob went to, but mine was rather pleasant. Sure, there was the crazy-ass teacher here and there, but otherwise it was pretty sane and nice. No bullies, no assholes (unless you count the crazy-ass teachers) or rampant stupidity. Just laziness. Lots and lots of laziness.
 

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junior year of high school sucked, senior year was pretty fun, but the rest of high school was just meh. not awesome or terrible, just school. by senior year i wasnt super popular but most people either liked me or felt neutral about me. i was well known amongst people i actually cared about and most people knew my name. a couple times i was singled out by assholes but for the most part high school was just school. i cant really relate to people who loved or hated high school
 

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Hoo, high school is a touchy subject with him it seems. I enjoyed the rest of the episode, but that ending bit left it a bit sour with me. Every time he starts getting really 'angry' about high school, the first thought to pop into my head is "get over it."

Maybe I was lucky or something else, but I really enjoyed high school, and I was certainly a "nerd." Hell, I liked going to school, it meant I could be around my friends and not have to put up with my parents fighting. Then again, I went to a private high school, so there's likely a side of high school I simply don't know.
 

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If you honestly think High School was "hell", then you were doing it wrong and you seriously need to get over it. Life in general is what you make it, there are good things and there are bad things, and pretty much the only thing we have control over is how we interpret and react to these things.

Bob has whined about "the popular" kids before and then as now it just seems like a lame attempt to make himself feel better about not being one of "them". The sad part is, that there really isn't a "them". The grass always looks greener but in the end we were all just teenagers with varying degrees of awkwardness and problems.
 

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I disagree with that high school comment. Call me a liar, but great times abound mark my high school run. Maybe I just have a great group of friends, or maybe I just haven't succumbed to the ocean of poor grades others around me seem to fall into, but I never found it to be the hellish meat grinder some people paint it as.
 

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I always assumed the attitude of 'LOL France are losers' was due to the big middle finger Charles De Gaul gave the US by, among other things, leaving NATO not too long after the US liberated the country after the one war France completely lost. In WW2 France (and Britain and all other nations in the area) got their ass kicked swiftly in what had been expected to be a protracted and at least evenly matched fight, to the point that half the country was conquered and the other half gave up. Thanks to De Gaul's anti-American nationalism, the US's public opinion might have remembered that last humiliating defeat and forgot the millennium and a half of France being a force to be feared (helped of course by the fact that the US didn't exist for most of that time, combined with the US's tendency to file historical events under either "happened to us or with us" or "unimportant").
 

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Bob, I'm writing that last one down for when I ever have kids. They won't believe me or probably even listen, but at least I'll know what to say.
 

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I loved High School, and I was (am) a total dweeb, who made friends with many other dweebs, and did my best to be nice to everyone I could.
 

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Seriously, you used "patriarchy" in one of your videos? Besides that fictional nature of that concept you seemed to imply that males deserved to be portrayed as idiots which it not cool.
 

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best time of my life was in high school... <.<

Also helps that my High School is Fiorello H. LaGuardia, i.e. full of art kids! i.e. no jocks

Still prefer it over my college years. go figure that engineering isn't a girl friendly major like Art was... >.>
 

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Wow that was creepy. My laptop crashed right after he read "are you actually evil?"
 

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In all honesty, in our modern age of media fear-mongering, post-9/11 paranoia, and teen suicide a modern day, relevant Superman movie has never been more possible.