Think you misunderstood me. Bob said Christmas had become a celebration of capitalistic excess known as 'X-Mas'. I was asking: what's wrong with a secular holiday geared towards (to my mind) charity, good will, etc? I'm confused as to how that would alienate non-Christians??Emergent System said:It alienates everyone who isn't a christian? Can't go anywhere without hearing some crazy motherfuckers screaming "JEEESUUUS JEEESSUUSSS" our of a speaker in what passes for music during the holiday.teknoarcanist said:On Christmas:
I know it's trendy to decry Christmas as a capitalistic orgy, but really: what's so wrong about a secular holiday devoted to good will, gift-giving, charity, and kindness towards your fellow man, divorced from any obligation or threat from a higher power to do so? Sound pretty damn good to me!
agreedVault Citizen said:The reason I refuse to recognise Jedi as a religion personally is that I'm not convinced that those did it do so out of genuine belief in the concept of Jedi as a religion instead of just doing it to say "look at us! we made Jedi our religion! aren't we clever!" and as such I refuse to indulge them.
Probably ninjaed, but actually, they don't. BCE (Before Common Era) is used instead of BC and CE (Common Era) is used instead of AD almost universally in the scientific community.joytex said:"The premises is actually more than 2000 years old."
Well obviously, they call it 2011 AD for a reason.
teknoarcanist said:Think you misunderstood me. Bob said Christmas had become a celebration of capitalistic excess known as 'X-Mas'. I was asking: what's wrong with a secular holiday geared towards (to my mind) charity, good will, etc? I'm confused as to how that would alienate non-Christians??Emergent System said:It alienates everyone who isn't a christian? Can't go anywhere without hearing some crazy motherfuckers screaming "JEEESUUUS JEEESSUUSSS" our of a speaker in what passes for music during the holiday.teknoarcanist said:On Christmas:
I know it's trendy to decry Christmas as a capitalistic orgy, but really: what's so wrong about a secular holiday devoted to good will, gift-giving, charity, and kindness towards your fellow man, divorced from any obligation or threat from a higher power to do so? Sound pretty damn good to me!
Or did you just skip over/not know the meaning of the word 'secular'
But hey, always nice to hear my Asshole Atheist brothers railing against intolerance while calling Christians 'crazy motherfuckers'. Protip: this is why Christians think we're all dicks, guy. Google the words 'hypocrisy' and 'arrogance'. Or watch Richard Dawkins talk for five minutes. But for the love of god DON'T BE RICHARD DAWKINS.
You mean like, oh about 2010 years ago? Make that 2011? I think you are reinforcing his claim without knowing it...dark-amon said:Actually the philosophers have had a pretty static perception of what the term 'God' means (refering to Bobs comment on humans perception of gods changing over the course of history). The premises is actually more than 2000 years old.
More like 6500 years. (hmm... apparently Bob didn't do his research on this one, the monotheistic beliefs from which christianity is derived date back to what is commonly known to be slightly before the (human) discovery of firemaking)Zechnophobe said:You mean like, oh about 2010 years ago? Make that 2011? I think you are reinforcing his claim without knowing it...dark-amon said:*snip*
Read the wikipedia articles, scientology appears to be based around the idea that without proper "freedom enducing treatment", you will die of pneumonia for the mere knowledge of scientological concepts. And the belief of them.PrototypeC said:Hmm. You know who scares the heck out of me? Scientologists. What do they worship? Themselves? Money? Their own personal success? The religion itself? Xenu?
Why is the whole thing based on secrets on top of secrets? Every other recognized religion I can understand, avoid or involve myself with at my leisure, knowing what is entailed. I have NO CLUE what Scientologists are all about, and their explanations just raise more questions and sound a hell of a lot like brainwashing.
Please, do not riddle MovieBob with language minutia. The native-english speaking community is so phonetically impared they can be excused. Take it from a japanese language student with 3 years behind of serious study.Captain Pooptits said:Haarooohee, Bob? Haarooheee?
You just lost all nerd credibility with me. Stop your preaching now. Right now goddam.
It's pronounced Haruhi ffs visit a speech therapist.
Which was in turn based around Saint Nicholas of Bari, a turkish saint based in Italy who gave good children presents and bad children rocks and brooms.Premonition said:Santa is based off of Sinterklaas, you know.
I'd side with the Atomsk-ism side of the spectrum and up my N.O. to steal Anne Hathaway and make her mine (Look for FLCL if you have no idea what I'm talking about)kael013 said:I don't wanna think about Japan doing this. Do you have any idea how many "holy wars" would break out over the animes alone? *shivers*
Incidentally, all you Jedi out there better watch your backs 'cause the Sith just gained their first member.
EDIT: Pray to whatever deity you want to that no one starts preaching Aes Sedai philosophy. That would be one twisted New World Order.
I'm wearing the shirt right now actually.Kieve said:What, no one's mentioned Jenova's Witnesses [http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=199] yet?
...I'm surprised we don't have them running around here already.
Well, except for the bit about murder.