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A_who

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You know I actually thought about founding my own church once, it was going to be the Church of Mario and eating mushrooms and doing drugs would be part of are practices, therefore making the drugs legal. I think that is how it work i remember Native American tribes get to smoke weed or something because it was apart of their customs. Plus it would give Italian kids good role models instead of the Jersey shore people.
 

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I've always kinda thought comics and popular culture could be considered our moral guides now. Many of the old comics were all about morals and correct behavior, mainly drawing from religion anyhow.

Interesting, Bob, that you would choose this topic now because I've just finished the 2nd book of Marvel's "Earth X" series, and that has a TON to say about religion and mythology.

Hell, Thor, the Asgardians, and pretty much all mythological beings are revealed to be highly evolved aliens that have no form or personality UNTIL someone imposes it on them: essentially, mankind MADE THEIR OWN GODS.

Plus, the highest forms of life, The Celestials, are said to have manipulated early man's gene pool with a "seed" that would allow them to evolve into super heroes. The Gods used the controversial concept of evolution for their own means
 

teknoarcanist

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Emergent System said:
teknoarcanist said:
On Christmas:
I know it's trendy to decry Christmas as a capitalistic orgy, but really: what's so wrong about a secular holiday devoted to good will, gift-giving, charity, and kindness towards your fellow man, divorced from any obligation or threat from a higher power to do so? Sound pretty damn good to me!
It alienates everyone who isn't a christian? Can't go anywhere without hearing some crazy motherfuckers screaming "JEEESUUUS JEEESSUUSSS" our of a speaker in what passes for music during the holiday.
Think you misunderstood me. Bob said Christmas had become a celebration of capitalistic excess known as 'X-Mas'. I was asking: what's wrong with a secular holiday geared towards (to my mind) charity, good will, etc? I'm confused as to how that would alienate non-Christians??

Or did you just skip over/not know the meaning of the word 'secular' ;)

But hey, always nice to hear my Asshole Atheist brothers railing against intolerance while calling Christians 'crazy motherfuckers'. Protip: this is why Christians think we're all dicks, guy. Google the words 'hypocrisy' and 'arrogance'. Or watch Richard Dawkins talk for five minutes. But for the love of god DON'T BE RICHARD DAWKINS.
 
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Vault Citizen said:
The reason I refuse to recognise Jedi as a religion personally is that I'm not convinced that those did it do so out of genuine belief in the concept of Jedi as a religion instead of just doing it to say "look at us! we made Jedi our religion! aren't we clever!" and as such I refuse to indulge them.
agreed
 

Xman490

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You went to Catholic school, huh? I did, too. Perhaps there's a connection between that and the nerd-isms you speak of. After all, obsessions, however mild, are the sources of many elaborate stories. Moses probably thought about the Commandments just as Shakespeare thought of what to produce at a given month. If you put a highly cognitive mind to things, you can come up with something interesting.
 

heliosa

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joytex said:
"The premises is actually more than 2000 years old."

Well obviously, they call it 2011 AD for a reason.
Probably ninjaed, but actually, they don't. BCE (Before Common Era) is used instead of BC and CE (Common Era) is used instead of AD almost universally in the scientific community.
 

TomOfTheCross

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I must say that I am agnostic, under the belief that. God is probably there, just don't don't encourage him.
Also my Dad put Hitch-hicker as his religion for that census, with his religious leader being Slartibartfast.
 

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Hmm. You know who scares the heck out of me? Scientologists. What do they worship? Themselves? Money? Their own personal success? The religion itself? Xenu?

Why is the whole thing based on secrets on top of secrets? Every other recognized religion I can understand, avoid or involve myself with at my leisure, knowing what is entailed. I have NO CLUE what Scientologists are all about, and their explanations just raise more questions and sound a hell of a lot like brainwashing.
 

heliosa

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teknoarcanist said:
Emergent System said:
teknoarcanist said:
On Christmas:
I know it's trendy to decry Christmas as a capitalistic orgy, but really: what's so wrong about a secular holiday devoted to good will, gift-giving, charity, and kindness towards your fellow man, divorced from any obligation or threat from a higher power to do so? Sound pretty damn good to me!
It alienates everyone who isn't a christian? Can't go anywhere without hearing some crazy motherfuckers screaming "JEEESUUUS JEEESSUUSSS" our of a speaker in what passes for music during the holiday.
Think you misunderstood me. Bob said Christmas had become a celebration of capitalistic excess known as 'X-Mas'. I was asking: what's wrong with a secular holiday geared towards (to my mind) charity, good will, etc? I'm confused as to how that would alienate non-Christians??

Or did you just skip over/not know the meaning of the word 'secular' ;)

But hey, always nice to hear my Asshole Atheist brothers railing against intolerance while calling Christians 'crazy motherfuckers'. Protip: this is why Christians think we're all dicks, guy. Google the words 'hypocrisy' and 'arrogance'. Or watch Richard Dawkins talk for five minutes. But for the love of god DON'T BE RICHARD DAWKINS.


I'm confused. What's wrong with Richard Dawkins? Care to elaborate? Also, SOME Christians (I'm not making generalizations) are just as guilty of the behavior you described, ie. standing outside abortion clinics condemning those going inside to hell,
 

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dark-amon said:
Actually the philosophers have had a pretty static perception of what the term 'God' means (refering to Bobs comment on humans perception of gods changing over the course of history). The premises is actually more than 2000 years old.
You mean like, oh about 2010 years ago? Make that 2011? I think you are reinforcing his claim without knowing it...
 

Drake_Dercon

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Zechnophobe said:
dark-amon said:
You mean like, oh about 2010 years ago? Make that 2011? I think you are reinforcing his claim without knowing it...
More like 6500 years. (hmm... apparently Bob didn't do his research on this one, the monotheistic beliefs from which christianity is derived date back to what is commonly known to be slightly before the (human) discovery of firemaking)

And then the scientology statement...

PrototypeC said:
Hmm. You know who scares the heck out of me? Scientologists. What do they worship? Themselves? Money? Their own personal success? The religion itself? Xenu?

Why is the whole thing based on secrets on top of secrets? Every other recognized religion I can understand, avoid or involve myself with at my leisure, knowing what is entailed. I have NO CLUE what Scientologists are all about, and their explanations just raise more questions and sound a hell of a lot like brainwashing.
Read the wikipedia articles, scientology appears to be based around the idea that without proper "freedom enducing treatment", you will die of pneumonia for the mere knowledge of scientological concepts. And the belief of them.

As for belief, I think it's kind of like an "Ascientism" (as in, there's no real higher power, aliens did it (which may well be possible, it's the exact method that leads me to question the mental stability of mr.Hubbard. see: Xenu) and that there can be no objective proof without assumed subjective evidence based on metaphysical alien technology somebody found somewhere we're not telling you about because you'll die of pneumonia.)

I find scientological belief to have even more metaphysical plotholes than the old testament.
And that's saying something.

Did I mention I read holy texts for fun?
And write them.
FOR FUN.

I take being a GM to its most extreme possible conclusion.

What we need to do is get the tabletop RPG commmunity to get in on this.
I know a boatload of people that would be more than happy to help come up with a new religion full of socially acceptable doctrines combined with a badass creation theory. In fact, I'll probably gather them and see if we can't make one up for the hell of it.
 

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I am hereby creating the church of Kamina, he died for our sins, and to defeat a giant mecha.
 

roostuf

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I worship the universe thats all, oh and the Scientology thing at the end was brilliant!
 

Cmwissy

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Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait....

When did Apatheism become Agnosticism and when did Anti-Theism become Atheism?
 

EscapingReality

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Captain Pooptits said:
Haarooohee, Bob? Haarooheee?

You just lost all nerd credibility with me. Stop your preaching now. Right now goddam.

It's pronounced Haruhi ffs visit a speech therapist.
Please, do not riddle MovieBob with language minutia. The native-english speaking community is so phonetically impared they can be excused. Take it from a japanese language student with 3 years behind of serious study.

Premonition said:
Santa is based off of Sinterklaas, you know.
Which was in turn based around Saint Nicholas of Bari, a turkish saint based in Italy who gave good children presents and bad children rocks and brooms.

kael013 said:
I don't wanna think about Japan doing this. Do you have any idea how many "holy wars" would break out over the animes alone? *shivers*

Incidentally, all you Jedi out there better watch your backs 'cause the Sith just gained their first member.

EDIT: Pray to whatever deity you want to that no one starts preaching Aes Sedai philosophy. That would be one twisted New World Order.
I'd side with the Atomsk-ism side of the spectrum and up my N.O. to steal Anne Hathaway and make her mine (Look for FLCL if you have no idea what I'm talking about)

As for religion, I go to a catholic high school and it's teachings actually let me see just how "catholic" people really are in the first place and just how much catholics ignore about their own religion. And it also fundaments my agnosticism because I don't believe in what they tell me to believe nor subject myself to any kind of bogus dogma.
 

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Kieve said:
What, no one's mentioned Jenova's Witnesses [http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=199] yet?

...I'm surprised we don't have them running around here already.
Well, except for the bit about murder.
I'm wearing the shirt right now actually.

OT: I'm actually athiest. Of all the religious systems I know of, there are none I can believe in
 

Andy of Comix Inc

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Watching this, I was almost yawning. This is going nowhere. Blah blah blah. Poop. Yawnity.

BUT THE PAYOFF WAS FUCKING WORTH IT.

4 minutes of slight theological discussion and it's punctuated by possibly the best anti-Scientology jab I have seen ever. Well done MovieBob, indeed you are all about the "big picture," not only as topics but overall - your videos are self-contained narrative brilliance that work as a whole and only as a whole, as apposed to rapid fire joke-after-punchline like we're used to from, say, Zero Punctuation, or even your own At the Movies. It's been a while since I've seen videos so finely crafted as to take the 5 minutes and say "this video will use these 5 minutes to take us somewhere".

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