The Big Picture: Nothing Gold Can Stay - The Most Bizarre Episode of Transformers
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The idea that a show based largely on fighting would have an episode like this really threw me when I first saw it as a kid. I'd largely loved this show a great deal, but seeing that episode, and that ending in particular, really made me re-think the whole thing, to the point where I started becoming rather uncomfortable with older episodes that I'd previously held as my favourites, not to mention all the other action-heavy stuff I was watching at the time.
It could well be that this episode is what led the TF franchise to be less gung-ho about fighting in future versions of the franchise. Plus, on a related note, it's sad that Beachcomber never really got any focus outside of this episode, because as far as I'm concerned, I'd absolutely watch another episode with him in the forefront.
It could well be that this episode is what led the TF franchise to be less gung-ho about fighting in future versions of the franchise. Plus, on a related note, it's sad that Beachcomber never really got any focus outside of this episode, because as far as I'm concerned, I'd absolutely watch another episode with him in the forefront.
I was never an OG Transformers guy, though I did love Beast Wars. That... was an oddity. Dark episode, for sure, though it's humorous how the whole team wasn't on the same page there.
You know, there is a silver lining to Michael Bay still making the Transformers movies.
For one, every time one of these clusterf*ck movies comes out, the internet gets a-buzzin' with fellow 80's kids like me to reminisce about how wonderfully bizarre The Transformers were when we were growing up. Old episodes get re-capped, favorite-thing lists are written, the music is everywhere and I get to wax nostalgic about a franchise that might have been created to sell toys, but the fans made it something so much more, which is the very essence of what pop-culture is.
For another, it gives me optimism and hope. There have been three Bay-ergized Transformers movies so far, one kind of okay (which my own hindsight continues to find new reasons to sympathize with) and two that are complete dreck, but you know what? Transformers is still here. It's still fun. Bay didn't take that from us. So honestly, to anyone out there still flipping their shit like someone stole or ruined or somehow RAPED your childhood, chill the fuck out, would you? Go play Fall of Cybertron and realize the franchise is still every bit as fun and entertaining as it ever was.
For one, every time one of these clusterf*ck movies comes out, the internet gets a-buzzin' with fellow 80's kids like me to reminisce about how wonderfully bizarre The Transformers were when we were growing up. Old episodes get re-capped, favorite-thing lists are written, the music is everywhere and I get to wax nostalgic about a franchise that might have been created to sell toys, but the fans made it something so much more, which is the very essence of what pop-culture is.
For another, it gives me optimism and hope. There have been three Bay-ergized Transformers movies so far, one kind of okay (which my own hindsight continues to find new reasons to sympathize with) and two that are complete dreck, but you know what? Transformers is still here. It's still fun. Bay didn't take that from us. So honestly, to anyone out there still flipping their shit like someone stole or ruined or somehow RAPED your childhood, chill the fuck out, would you? Go play Fall of Cybertron and realize the franchise is still every bit as fun and entertaining as it ever was.
Are we sure the music department wasn't in on the joke? Surely the editor realised the contrast, and maybe enjoyed the juxtaposition- a little message to the audience saying, "Every time there's a grand heroic victory, remember this."
Wow, I remember this episode in particular. The more introspective transformer and his somber "We won" stood out to me. But seeing it as an adult, I realize why.
I'd have to say the fact that people who grew up watching Transformers remember this episode in particular says something about the particular impact it had on us. We couldn't process the theme as well in our childhood but the fact that it stuck with us shows it had a certain impact.
I'd have to say the fact that people who grew up watching Transformers remember this episode in particular says something about the particular impact it had on us. We couldn't process the theme as well in our childhood but the fact that it stuck with us shows it had a certain impact.
Honestly the episodes I remember the most out of G1 that was WTH? was that episodes when Astrotrain and Bltizwing joined together as they overthrow Megatron and Starscream (they trap the two in a freezer and were frozen solid). Ok that part wasn't weird, it was what they did afterward.
Blitzwing conquer an American Football stadim to be his "palace" and held the coach manager hostage mainly keeping him as his "advisor" while keeping him lock up in the locker. Meanwhile Astrotrain used some of his computerchip to install into a bunch of train trying to make them intelligent...
Also that episode that Bob mention did had good thing in it-
Uusually that gif has the party hard tagline.
Blitzwing conquer an American Football stadim to be his "palace" and held the coach manager hostage mainly keeping him as his "advisor" while keeping him lock up in the locker. Meanwhile Astrotrain used some of his computerchip to install into a bunch of train trying to make them intelligent...
Also that episode that Bob mention did had good thing in it-
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I'm not sure. It was still a children's cartoon at the end of the day, and assuming it's deliberate, I really wonder if the creators wouldn't realize that putting a triumphant tune over the ending goes against the point.Thunderous Cacophony said:
Yeah I'm gonna side with the side of "the music is juxtaposition to tell kids that war is haaaeelll". That said I think the music shouldn't overshadow him saying "we won", maybe it should have went a bit quiet.
Everything else, well... what the hell did I just see?
Everything else, well... what the hell did I just see?
Wow! Aside from the musical screw-up, that is one dark as hell episode of Transformers. Nice find, Bob.
On a related subject, as of today, Rotten Tomatoes has a 50% rating for Transformers: Age of Extinction with only six reviews and half are negative. Well, technically, the one from Variety is negative but its labeled as a positive review.
Guess Rotten Tomatoes never heard of sarcasm.
So this week's Escape to the Movies is going to be interesting to say the least. ^^;
I'd like to know which Internet movie reviewer is going to have the biggest mental meltdown after seeing this movie. I'm betting it will be tied between Brad "Cinema Snob" Jones and Noah "Spoony" Antwiler. I know its really early to make this statement but we're dealing with a franchise that has found new ways to be a mixture of being over-hyped, insulting to one-celled organisms, and having the intellectual depth of a shot glass. If you believe this series can get remotely better with the same people working on it, then you need to lower your hopes and standards. I'm just saying.
On a related subject, as of today, Rotten Tomatoes has a 50% rating for Transformers: Age of Extinction with only six reviews and half are negative. Well, technically, the one from Variety is negative but its labeled as a positive review.
Guess Rotten Tomatoes never heard of sarcasm.
So this week's Escape to the Movies is going to be interesting to say the least. ^^;
I'd like to know which Internet movie reviewer is going to have the biggest mental meltdown after seeing this movie. I'm betting it will be tied between Brad "Cinema Snob" Jones and Noah "Spoony" Antwiler. I know its really early to make this statement but we're dealing with a franchise that has found new ways to be a mixture of being over-hyped, insulting to one-celled organisms, and having the intellectual depth of a shot glass. If you believe this series can get remotely better with the same people working on it, then you need to lower your hopes and standards. I'm just saying.
It would seem like the music at the end was an intentional juxtaposition, like playing a victorious version of a national anthem over the image of a city in ruin, or when bad news comes out of Iraq and people say something along the lines of, "Mission Accomplished, amirite?"
My contact with the original series limits itself to a few episodes that weren't all that interesting. I really should try and get back into it, or at least watch the better of the story arcs.
Beast Wars, on the other hand, was damned amazing. Eh, sure, people will point out the episode where Rhinox farted the Predacons into oblivion, but that's one episode.
Beast Wars, on the other hand, was damned amazing. Eh, sure, people will point out the episode where Rhinox farted the Predacons into oblivion, but that's one episode.
The plot of Beast Wars often trended in the same nature vs. war direction. The second-in-command Rhinox was often a pacifistic. And later in the series Tigatron was even more of a nature-loving, anti-war character.thejboy88 said: