crimsonshrouds said:
cleric of the order said:
You said this
Firstly let me say I have not seen GG on about her, even in h8chan people will sage threads about her to death because she is not important to their discussion and shall never be.
Dude their is a problem with aligning yourself with a leaderless angry mob where all it takes to be a part of the movement is the use of a hashtag.
The guys talk about almost nothing but femminist frequency, Anita, and SJWs For the first 11 mins i can get through. References to marxism which leave me confused as someone who has actually read the communist manifesto. I get it SJWs are crazy or at best stupid. The only thing i can gather is these people going on about conspiracies and all SJWs are evil blah blah. I just can't take this movement seriously especially one that goes after peoples jobs based on conspiracies.
But we aren't a hate mob.
Like I said, we age those threads.
We in the trenches say little about them and to do so is to have your thread sage bombed.
Then again it's good to remember that while 8chan has some of the nicest members from 4chan I have ever met. (I loved my terrain thread in /tg/, we turned whining into something constructive, also nobody screaming sexism showed up. Yes people doing that is a problem even on a traditional game board on 4chan.)
(also there's no quest threads, generals or much Cyoa (one thread). that's the best part.)
h8chan is still a image board from 4chan, we are still more rude then the majority of people you've met but I would never say hate mob.
For that to be true we'd have to band together to harass people which we don't do, we actively police those sorts of activity, heck there's a sub movement dedicated to that.
Now for the Stream, I suppose that's the tone they took, They like to talk about Tumblr and those sorts of things but I watched a bit further a didn't find much more about them.
Even then, Anita Cemented herself as a opposing force when that threat came in and she been used as a human shield by the opposition like Zoe and Wu since, the only real criticism of the GG i find is along the lines of hate group or misogynistic/racist/ewwwstraightwhitemen and that's just plan wrong or lol conspiracy. most importantly I've gone looking the criticism here any example i can dredge up come from here.
Further more we have never gone after people jobs because conspiracy crap, if someone told you that they are wrong.
We have only ever gone after corrupt journalists, To the point Sargon was quite clear about not going after people he suggested were collaboration, the whole marxism and that BS is a different discussion for the below.
Others like total biscuit do not care about it and only care about the corruption.
But frankly those journalists should have lost their jobs, Sam Biddle should have been fired the moment he tweeted bring back bullying and should not have tweeted he got a raise for it. Leigh Alexander's comments about "hood rats" and other racist lines should have killed her career if her article on gamers being over didn't. All we have done is boycott their website and informed their advertisers of what the companies that they support are doing. Nothing more.
No attacks on some jerk from DiGRA.
No attacks on the so called feminist academia.
Just game journos, only corrupt game journos.
crimsonshrouds said:
One of the guys on their Sargon seems like a smart fellow but i think he has a hard time dealing with people he disagrees with to the point of dehumanizing them. I watched a video response where he insulted the guy the entire time and I just couldn't take him seriously.
Damn you are too right with this, no sarcasm meant.
That's good ol' Sargon, in a nut shell.
Sometimes I balk at how he handles himself but he's the way his and I'll sit through it for the history pieces.
It's what his group the rationalists do, their goal is sort of pulling the pants out for the conceited, there are a lot of stupid things in this world that area bit too full of themselves and while I doubt a fat middle aged brit could really take them down.
The cultural Marxisms is an interesting realm of discussion but I'm with total biscuit, Corruption first, Corruption above all.
Then we discuss those..... matters when everyone has a choice to.
From what I pieced together, the cultural Marxism stuff was a bit weird, it took me some thought but I think the idea is it sets up a hierarchy or cultural class. For example you see the SJWs talk about Straight white cis men like nothing happens to those sorts of people, like they own the means of production. Then they start dripping down a list of cultures to the most oppressed. Further more it seems to create a want for cultural sameness, where differences are not mentioned. for further reading i suggest brave new world, I think that's what they are getting at.
Further more, I suspect the people talking about cultural Marxism are largely, Atheists and from what I've gathered it's because of Atheism+ a research stream with ThunderFoot, Justicar and IA confirmed this. I suspect a lot of the people on about it are from /pol/ or we burned by a what they were on about. I'd think it was stupid but Sargon himself did a video why he left comics. Now before this I've looked at the people referring to fake geek girls like most everyone else, poorly and was rather surprised when he uploaded a video on it. It's nice seeing the counter point of an argument because not even villains see themselves as evil. and it was really interesting.
That being said I remain skeptical, as I should.
but that being said the DiGRA video and the research streams are interesting. check it out. They seem outlandish, especially when I think the key to everything going wrong is greed not Misandry but they are fun.
Again, we have not attacked these people.
WE are not focusing on this as a discussion, corruption comes first, crazy jibjab second.
Further more I would not try to paint a entire group with a brush you gathered from 11min of a stream.
crimsonshrouds said:
And why is not everybody pointing out why anita is wrong pissing you off? I don't know why shes wrong because I don't watch her videos but i avoid arguing with feminists because the last time i did i swore i never would again. I'll probably add more to this response later i gotta go.
Now you're a tricky one, yes indeed.
I never said that my friend, I have had enough information to why she is wrong, between thunderfoot, my own perspective and just about everyone. I don't need more negative. I want positive. I want a reason why she matters to these people. I want a reason why anyone would view her work is meaningful.
It confuses me, why waste time on her, she has nothing interesting to say in my eyes.
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