I remember when MovieBob made a comment about Robin needing to be in a new Batman movie and everyone started bitching and complaining about it, even though Bob explained himself, in a column, why "Batman needs a Robin". Really, I kind of agree, even though it seems most people only seem to see Robin as a nuisance and don't see all the 70+ years of Robin being by Batman's side...
Please do a Batgirl. That's way more confusing than Robin.. I've been subscribed to the entire Bat family for years and I still don't know what happened to Stephanie, Helena, Cassandra, or how Barbara Gordan is walking again. There's mention of a surgery in the first...ermm new first issue but since comics are weird...who knows.
I'd also like Bob to sort out wtf is up with the new 52. Again...I'm subscribed to over 20 of them and have no idea why DC's entire history is only 5 years long in some places, and much longer in others. For example... Blackest Night happened just before FP and the new 52. People fought and died and were reborn and stayed dead. Fast forward to New 52 and Blackest Night only happened to Green Lantern and Sinestro? Hell, most of the major plot points didn't happen because characters either don't exist, or don't know each other. ex:Superboy does not know Superman yet and the JSA does not exist. Or Why are there still multiple universes and What exactly was the point of Flashpoint?
Loving some of the new stories but the new 52 overall is more confusing than DC has ever been.
Okay, this is something of a sore subject for me, but I'll try to explain it without bias.
Okay, so the New 52. Simply put: this isn't the same universe the DCU used to be, gets a different acronym, and everything. Lady Shiva is about the same age as Dick Grayson, though we don't know if it's the same person or not, because that hasn't been expounded upon.
Assuming (this is a pretty big assumption also, because Lady Shiva AKA Sandra Wu-San/Wusan/whatever, is from Detroit, while Dick Grayson is from the North East.) this is the same Lady Shiva as before, and not just some pretender, she is too young for Cassandra Cain to be even 16 (the youngest she's ever been, keep in mind, Cass originally showed up at 18, got older, then younger, COMICS!) now, because she's 25ish.
I don't know what they did with Stephanie Brown, she hasn't been mentioned aside from supposedly showing up in Batman Inc. but she was also supposed to be Nightwing in the upcoming Smallville comic, however this was thrown out so we can have Barbara Gordon. Again.
Helena Berteneli.... I don't know, we have a Helena Wayne in the execrable World's Finest.
Barbara Gordon was fixed by a "miracle" until several months later, Gail Simone decided that it would actually be cybernetics that fix her (I'm not making this up, she kept banging on about miracles the entire time as well) and that's how she's up again.
The current DCnU doesn't all happen in the same timeframe, some of them happen now, some happen 5 years ago, the Jonah Hex stuff happens far earlier than that.
Now here comes the killer: the New 52 is a mess, none of the authors are talking to each other, and no one knows what anyone's going to do next. Not even the editors. So yes, this is a freaking huge mess.
DrgoFx said:
DVS BSTrD said:
Batgirl next week? Or is there not enough to work with?
There have been roughly four or five bat girls to my knowledge, and Barbara's not even the first one, but is the most popular. As far as the last three go, it went Barbara, a girl called Cassandra Cain who was pretty much like a female version of Batman in my opinion, dark and such.
I take slight issue in what you said about Cassandra Cain, her costume might have been quite dark, intimidating, and perhaps a little creepy, but Cassandra Cain herself was nothing like Bruce Wayne. She was a very different character. She wasn't even all that dark, all things told, she didn't brood, she only hid when Getting ready to pounce on someone.
She didn't even get all mopey when someone she liked died, she would get upset, then she'd kick the snot out of whoever was responsible. Most importantly: she was actually pretty happy to be in her position, it was way better than the rest of her life had been, and she found purpose in life. We know this from when Batman decided to take it away from her.
I dunno if I really buy the whole surrogate father thing. I know I never saw myself as robin. I saw myself as Batman! Why would a kid want to be the kidnap victim when they can be the superhero?
Supposedly they're bringing Carrie Kelly back into the fray to become Robin #6, so maybe we'll get a canonical female Robin who isn't a total screw-up in the part.
I've gotta say, I really dislike how much input the fans get on these stories.
It ruins any artistic integrity these comics have going for them. These people want to tell interesting stories, but raging fans just make sure they stick to their roots.
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