The Big Picture: Skin Game

[Tarik94]

I will support Peta, only if they exterminate the entire chihuahua race of dogs.


Also, Everyone are wearing cotton and eating veggies and fruits once in a while, well I got news for you: plants live too you know!

scroll down to point #7 on this article and you will understand: http://www.cracked.com/article_19456_8-things-you-wont-believe-plants-do-when-no-ones-looking.html

lol, j/k


On a serious note: I support Animal Welfare, but not rights. The animals aren't intelligent, what the hell are they supposed to do with rights? vote? Come on now!

 

[Tharwen]

I do not believe that there is any such thing as "rights"; the concept of "rights" is a social construct that is fully contingent on the time and place that they exist in.

Why is that a reason to ignore them?

To be honest, I think you're trying a bit too hard with the cynicism thing.

 

[The Philistine]

I find it hard to believe that there are still people who don't know how messed up PETA is. Nevertheless, thank you for doing this - maybe there's a few animal lovers out there that will now stop giving money to these idiots.

For the most part I think most people already go about ignoring PETA until they do something outrageously stupid, like villainizing Mario. And then they typically go back to ignoring PETA again.

I really appreciate Bob for making this video. I never cared enough about PETA to realize the magnitude of their d-baggery.

 

[Axeion]

You forgot to mention how Peta's second in command (I forgot her name, look it up if you care) uses insulin, the sugar processing drug/enzyme thing. The very same that Peta hates, because it comes from animals.

Penn and Teller did an episode on this. Pretty good episode too.

Was just gona post that vid. Warning about the mature words used tho.Also if your a big donator to peta for years it may come as a shock.Few friends wifes were big suporters an just couldnt belive peta is not for the greater good. Many feathers were ruffled after watching.

This is not even the 1st time peta has gona after games.THey went after wow few years ago for some virtual animal abuse.Belive back in the day they went after everquest to becasue you use animal skins in game for trade skills.

 

[uberhippy]

Thanks Bob for bringing such a (personally annoying) issue to everyones attention,
and for dealing with siad Issue so well

PETA are one of the most frustrating groups out there, they give a bad name to their own kind, and lump together, genuinly non-crazy people, with them!!

I'm a believer in Animal rights & welfare, I'm a Vegan, I've organised veggie groups, been in animal rights groups (the non-crazy kind), and have been working for years in dog shelters & homes,
Yet again and again, people still think We're all one be group of crazy, attention grabbing egotists!

Thank you for very clearly differentiating me & those who agree with me, from the lunatics in PETA

 

[Dhatz]

you just proven to be the pussy I had you for. wtf use are redundant animals, theyre just waste of resources, peta undestands at least that.

 

[Gunjester]

Fuck PETA

 

[PunkRex]

I am so f**king annoyed now! Ive stood up for PETA in the past thinking that they must at least do some good for animal kind but if whats presented in this video is true it has become clear to me that they are, at their core, a bunch of fanatics!!!

 

[cynicalsaint1]

Wow, I knew PETA was crazy and that its best to ignore them, but I didn't realize that outside of being lunatics that they were actively evil as well.

Well done Bob, well done.

 

[Sir Prize]

I do agree with you Bob, but there's a little issue with the wording.

Animals Rights, also known as Animal Liberation, is the diea that other animals should have the same rights as humans.
Animal Welfare is the idea that we should try to care for the well being of other creatures.

I support animals welfare but not animals rights, since the idea is against pets and rights also entails an understanding of right and wrong, as well as their rights. I love my dog and such but I doubt he understands this stuff, it doesn't mean he shouldn't be care for but there are lines to draw.

 

[Alar]

This is... really, really messed up. Very disturbing. 90% of animals euthanized? Eugh... it's like they think death not being painful suddenly makes death okay.

 

[Bluecho]

You know what pisses me off? The fact that PETA thinks domesticated pets should never have existed. I don't know the official numbers here, but I'm willing to be there are easily more individuals of any given species typically kept as pets being owned by humans than being in the wild. Especially given that wild animals tend not to be in the good graces of humans, and their natural environments being progressively taken over by man.

What am I getting at here? Well, animals in the wild tend to be at the mercy of environmental factors to survival, while humans tend to not allow their pets to die needlessly. In fact, they're very protective of them, and consider them family. Sure, they might choose their own lives or those of their human family over a pet, but if all goes well a pet lives a much better life than a stray.

And that's my point. I believe that humans taking animals in as pets was the best thing to happen to them. Sure, they may live in subserviance to humans, but they'd be living in subserviance to their instincts in the wild, so we might as well give them a great place to live.

 

[SurrealFactory]

Best episode of TBP in a while. Bob seems to be listening to some of his crticism. I like how he added PETA's contact info at the end of the episode, actually backing up his argument and not expecting us to take it verbatim.

 

[LordLundar]

The hilarity of this video is that PeTA openly stated the Mario thing was an attention grabbing joke. Guessed you missed that one ay Bob?

Yes, it's been mentioned before in this thread (three times prior in fact) and yes, Bob even mentions that this was nothing more than a grab for attention several times in the video.

 

[Sofus]

Riiight... and how are we supposed to eat meat if PeTA got their way. You can't be against killing animals for their skin, while at the same time be okay with breeding, killing and eating other type of animals.

Skinning and animal for its hide and killing another for the meat is the same damn thing as they served the same purpose... human interest.

I agree that we should treat all animals as best we can... but you're kidding yourselves if you think that it's more cruel to kill a fox than it is to kill a pig or a cow.

 

[head desk tricycle]

I would like to add a further point. Contrary to popular belief, the guys who make the "no animals were harmed in the making of this whatever" thingies are the American Humane Association, not PETA.

 

[dubious_wolf]

thanks bob. I think i will send Peta an email asking about several of the rather shady dealings.
Did you know pet owners tend to live longer?
I wonder what Peta has to say about that?

 

[Endocrom]

Thank you Bob, I'll be refering people to this video for years to come.

 

[FlayD]

In a (very specific) sense, I don't wholly disagree with their stance about the domestication of animals, although I in no way agree with their approach to 'solving' the problem (or the fact that they're ignoring the many people who do take good care of their pets, or the contribution domestication of farm animals has had to human society). Many purebred species of cats and dogs have genetic defects that without human intervention would make it impossible for them to survive in the wild, and otherwise make life difficult for them. Large species of dog like the Newfoundland, for example, have heart trouble as a result of being bred so big, while smaller breeds like the Pug often have birth difficulties as a result of their hips being too small. PETA, as usual, is focused on entirely the wrong issue.

 

[NezumiiroKitsune]

I'm unsure why the wearing of fur is at all considered ethically non negotiable, especially when leather is so widely embraced. As long as it's sustainable, the animals are either wild and killed humanely or farmed ethically, with minimal waste (if their meat can be used and / or they have other useful tissues / etc), and it is well regulated (in so much as numbers farmed / hunted only meet demand, and limits on this be enforced) then it seems as ethically grey as eating meat, in so much as, it's technically amoral since we can live without it, but we still do it because it's a valuable resource that we are willing to support for it's benefits.

I'm not speaking of PETA here, but of western sociological consensuses, wherein it is largely met with disgust that you would wear fur.

As for PETA, ignore them. We can't really win by assaulting them with rationality, so try to divert attention away from their campaigns by just educating people about what they're really doing, like Bob has done. If they don't receive any support, and these campaigns fall flat, then they'll lose their influence and become just a bunch of extremists who can be ignored, until they do something violent or otherwise illegal.