The Big Picture: The Boot, Part Two

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Parakeettheprawn

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...Um, I actually -have- intentionally rewatched swafts of Harry Potter movies and re-read most of the longer books a year or two back. If anything, yeah, make it a TV series. That would work -so- much better. Just don't let it become a Twilight sort of thing, keep the tone of the movies as best you can.

Besides that, anything further to say on the matter would just be my own list of rebootable franchises, and more of those would be games or books anyway so I'll shut up.
 
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templar1138a said:
I'm with you on Harry Potter, but it shouldn't be remade as a movie trilogy. It should be remade as a TV drama. That way they can cover some of the relevant details that actually are supposed to be covered. For example, when I saw that Cho Chang wasn't in the third movie (knowing how she plays an important role in Harry's development as a character in the following books), I gave up on the movies. I felt further validated by this when I saw that the advertising for Goblet of Fire seemed to be cashing in on resembling that of Revenge of the Sith.
Yes. This. Give each book a season of a TV series. Shorter books get shorter seasons. But it would allow for all the stuff that got skipped over which they missed out and then had to cover their asses about to be put in

Oh, and no I wouldn't want to sit down and watch all of the Harry Potter films in a marathon...because there's eight of them and they're like 2 hours each. I can't spare sixteen hours like that
 

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i cant see the Simpsons being rebooted or the harry potters, not that i would care that much if i did, i just dont think anyone would be willing to pay for it.

although i do want to know what moviebob as against the iron man 2? what the hell man!?

gargoyles would be a good reboot, and now all i can think of is all those earlier cartoons coming back, the kong one, or the ghostbusters extreme one,......yeah i have just discovered i want an Extreme Ghostbusters reboot...

Hollywood make it happen!
 

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Harry Potter as a TV series (preferably cartoon) would be great. A cartoon would drastically reduce the budget, since you wouldn't have to use made for TV quality CGI AND you wouldn't have to try and find actors that look like the characters.

I think he would have been better off saying he wanted Simpsons spin offs rather than a reboot. He doesn't want the Simpson family to form the core of any reboot, but more the Trials and Tribulations of Frank Grimes. Maybe pick a new character every episode and show a peak into their life. They already do it in vignette form, why not make a season or two out of it?
 

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I know a lot of people who would sit down for a full 8 movie Harry Potter marathon. I've been to a few myself and I'm not even a Potter Superfan or anything.

.....that's like 20 hours. that's insane. i seriously SERIOUSLY doubt anyone would do that, regardless of the amount they care about the films.
 

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Worgen said:
I'm a bit surprised you didn't mention mlp more considering friendship is magic is pretty much the most successful reboot of anything I can think of. It took something that was firmly entrenched in what was perceived as what young girls wanted to watch and turned it into something that goes way beyond its intended audience. It did the impossible, it made girl stuff cool.
That's exactly why it wasn't mentioned, this is a list of things that should be rebooted, not things that were already rebooted very well.
I didn't mean as something that needed to be rebooted, I meant as an example of something that was rebooted super successfully.
 

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PunkRex said:
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Gargoyles was made for teenagers? When i was a teenager cartoons weren't my main past time =/
Speak for yourself!

OT: My only childhood gripe is my longing for a Samurai Jack ending, although I would let out a happy woot if the Gummi Bears or Gargolyes got another shot.


Theres an idea for an ep Bob, i'd love to see what shows you think deserve an ending.
the guy who voiced Aku is dead. all hope for an ending is lost.
 

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I'm gonna be totally upfront I'd give my left foot for a proper reboot of Gargoyles, and then my right foot for a proper reboot of Babylon 5. Forget tv shows those are two of my favorite things period, I'm honestly baffled that no one's tried to redo Gargoyles yet.
 

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Actually... I'd kind of like to see a futurama reboot.

I still like the show enough that I'd watch and probably enjoy any new movie or episode continuation, but the charm of the first few seasons is gone and a lot of it has to do with the complete change of Bender's character from interesting to generic asshole. I don't know how to describe it... his egoism has basically removed any character he once possessed and he now can be molded into any shape to support whatever random jumble of plot points they try to make an episode out of, as long as you work "ego" into it somehow. If he ever does have any sort of character development it's always the same (he admits he loves his friends) and it resets before the next episode so he can do it again at some later point in the season.

The whole Fry and Leela relationship is botched, too. They made it happen (I assume) because they thought the movie would be the end of the show, but now that it isn't, they just don't want to stick to the idea. Every other episode involving them either seems to completely ignore the fact that they're a couple (which can get really confusing) or comes up with some contrived reason to separate them so the same character dynamic of 'the hopeless fool in love' can be played out for the billionth time.... Only to reunite them by fate. If they commit to the idea that the relationship isn't working out, then *gasp* Fry will have to eventually move on, and they won't be able to make him a hopeless fool in love anymore. The cycle is nauseating.

So I suppose I can summarize by saying, the main characters of futurama are stuck in a rut and the show is suffering because of it.
 

Brian Michael

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I said it in the comments for Part One, and I'll say it again here. They need to reboot Reboot. It's name is literally crying out for this to happen. Update it with modern technology and comparisons to the current way we use computers, play games and use the internet (porn references exempted). Have new characters, a new system, a new style of guardians, new style of game like MMORPGs. It would attract those who liked Wreck It Ralph.

Also, Gargoyles is a amazing idea, going to watch all those old episodes now. Not so convinced on the Simpsons or Harry Potter because I feel we'd need to let the Simpsons rest a little while before we did that and Harry Potter... I've had enough of Harry Potter, unless they do movies based around the first Wizard Wars when Voldemort came to power (maybe actually showing Dumbledore being gay instead of just saying he is and leaving supposed "clues", quit literally a gay witch hunt).
 

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Hells yeah Gargoyles. I would love to see that rebooted, besides the original scooby-doo, was my fave cartoon growing up.
 

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Bold choices there, Bob. I don't know about a Babylon 5 reboot, since it left it's influence on a bunch of sci-fi shows that came after it. As for the Simpsons, I feel like it gets rebooted at the beginning of every season, since there's now little in the way of continuity. I mean, Great Caesar's Ghost, it's now to the point where Apu's octuplets are now OLDER than Maggie! In fact, I have a theory that there's a whole multiverse of Simpsons, and each season around Futurama's debut (since I think that's when the good writers left) is a look at a different world, with different versions of the characters.
And that screenshot of Johnny Quest; WIN!

captcha: make it so
That's my thought on the Gargoyles relaunch, and a proper finish to Samurai Jack.
 

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muffinatorXII said:
orangeapples said:
I know a lot of people who would sit down for a full 8 movie Harry Potter marathon. I've been to a few myself and I'm not even a Potter Superfan or anything.

.....that's like 20 hours. that's insane. i seriously SERIOUSLY doubt anyone would do that, regardless of the amount they care about the films.
So, erm, I've done a Babylon 5 marathon. We allowed ourselves a sleep between each season. So that's 17 hours (ish, given time to grab a sandwich, toilet breaks, etc), then sleep, then 17 hours, then sleep, etc.

Man, I miss university.

TL;DR - A Potter marathon is nothing, lightweights.
 
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Some good ideas, some less good ideas, 1 really bad idea. Do not reboot Babylon 5.

I watched the show way back in the late '90s when I was just a Star Trek kid, and just loved the fresh new look at science fiction that B5 offered. I was a bit too young to get all the political intrigue and subtlety to the character arcs and interactions, I just knew I loved the aliens and the space battles and Mr. Garibaldi.

Now I just discovered last year that my library has the whole series and all the movies, and I rewatched it with my friend. I was really hoping that it was as good as I remembered, and even with my expectations high I was blown away with how great a show it is. It's more ambitious than almost any tv show dares to be even today, and pulls it off pretty successfully. The acting is top notch, the makeup is leagues better than anything else on at the same time, the scope of the series is huge and still manages to stay personal, the characters are some of the most memorable in science fiction. It's one of the best shows I've ever watched.

So now that it's over, no, it does not need a remake or a reboot or a reimagining or a re-anything. It was JMS's vision, and even if it didn't go off perfectly according to that because of the unfortunate realities of television production and the quest for ratings, that is okay. It is still just about the best it could have been. And if they remade it now, JMS probably would be tangentially involved as a "supervising producer" or something, his role as creative director handed off to someone who the networks think is sexy right now, like J.J. Abrams or one of his "Lost" cronies.

This is not a show that ever needs to be done again. It is a beautiful anomaly in the vast and empty outer space of television science fiction programming. Nothing else quite like it exists, and no one could ever do a "better" or "improved" version of it, it just would never happen. The charm of the original would be lost, our favorite characters would be replaced by other actors who, at best, could only approximate the heights they have already reached. And what would it be about? Would it tell the same story? The one with no surprises left in it for anyone who saw the first show? Or would this be a totally new story with new characters in the same universe? They tried that, actually, and it went very poorly.
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Babylon 5 was a great show in my opinion, hampered by limitations in CG. And I admit, I'd love to see a remastered version of the original, but I doubt a reboot would really be possible. The show's survival through out its run was a miracle, and it's successor didn't last more then half a season. A real shame to, I doubt many fans of Babylon 5 didn't like Crusades and some of my friends who weren't fond of the lack of action in Babylon 5 really embraced the new show. They canceled Crusades, as I understand it, because the studio behind it didn't feel it's characters were 'sexy enough'. They handed down the ultimatum, sex it up or call it quits... No more Crusades. I think a remastered B5 and a rebooted Crusades might work. You could use the one to sell the other even. Sort of a big lead up hype event.
Now that's an idea, at least one with some sense. Crusade hardly even got out of the gate, but I thought it had promise. This is something I could get excited for. Just please, don't mess with our Babylon 5. It's one of the last unsullied gems we have left.
 

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Normally I'm iffy on reboots but look what happened with MLP. Something that was arguably the most vapid horrendous diabetes inducing thing ever in its early generations. Good things can happen with reboots. I just wonder if it will happen anymore.

Gendy Tartakosky seems to keep getting the shaft and Young Justice is already cancelled or well on its way. I'd love for Gargoyles or other things to have another shot.

captcha: laugh at me

Yeah go ahead
 

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I've never been into Babylon 5. I watched a few episodes of it because my friends in High School were big into it, but I was pretty much completely in the dark as to what was going on. If you're going to reboot it let's NOT have it be the "Star Trek Reboot treatment" because that would be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.
 

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Even my mother touts Gargoyles as being oe of the best shows she's ever seen. This was a woman in her 40's watching it alongside my sister and I, who were in our teens, who would sit down to religiously watch the show. I would seriously pay a good chunk of money for the show to be rebooted. ... With all the same voices. Because half the cast of Star Trek: TNG playing Shakespearean characters and plotlines and motherfucking living gargolyes is nothing short of one of the best things. Ever.
 
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muffinatorXII said:
PunkRex said:
flarty said:
Gargoyles was made for teenagers? When i was a teenager cartoons weren't my main past time =/
Speak for yourself!

OT: My only childhood gripe is my longing for a Samurai Jack ending, although I would let out a happy woot if the Gummi Bears or Gargolyes got another shot.


Theres an idea for an ep Bob, i'd love to see what shows you think deserve an ending.
the guy who voiced Aku is dead. all hope for an ending is lost.
Not true. The guy who voiced Aku, the Japanese American actor Mako, died in the middle of production of the second season of Avatar: The Last Airbender. But his character continued, voiced by another fellow who had actually studied Mako's voice and could do a fair approximation of him. It's not a perfect imitation, but the same guy could certainly do the voice of Aku in any new Samurai Jack.