The Big Picture: The New Originals
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wery well done bob, i totally agree with you. you are much better when you speak about movies and not "omg you nerds suck".
I certainly do support new movies. i watch a lot of new movies, even indie ones, more than remakes. Though doubtful oen person is impacting that much.
and theres another stopper
pacific rim: not coming to a theater in your country.
yay?
I certainly do support new movies. i watch a lot of new movies, even indie ones, more than remakes. Though doubtful oen person is impacting that much.
and theres another stopper
pacific rim: not coming to a theater in your country.
yay?
I just hope the machines aren't made from the monsters they're fighting; otherwise it's going to feel like they're ripping off eva, like they did in bayonetta.
Indeed. I notice they have empire online review as positive, which it isn't. Empire gave it 3 stars and called It "A big, brash, unpretentious B movie that lives down to its billing: robots punching monsters ? it does what it says on the Rim." To quote some of the review "These humans rarely rise above the risible. As thinly drawn as their teatime-TV ancestors, they are heroes as mechanical as the robots, pre-programmed with personal issues (chiefly dead relatives), too easily overcome. The performances get no further than their overcharged names: Charlie Hunnam is gravel-voiced maverick Raleigh Becket; Rinko Kikuchi his troubled, greenhorn co-pilot Mako Mori; while Idris Elba, as the unit?s commander Stacker Pentecost, stomps out dialogue so wooden and portentous, you fear the apocalypse may be over by the time he?s finished."PedalTank said:
Even IGN was not impressed and that's IGN. From my take on what I hear, it's not bad but just not as good as you think it should be.
I'm going to go see it. But I'm a geek and this speaks directly to me. The references, the iconography, the wild exaggeration - I'm all for that. Others will probably not be.
Del Toro deserves it but for the movie to achieve large-scale success it needs to appeal to people and the only way it can do that is if the "majority" don't perceive it as 'Scott Pilgrim' but as...shudder...'Transformers'. And that's not a good prospect
Del Toro deserves it but for the movie to achieve large-scale success it needs to appeal to people and the only way it can do that is if the "majority" don't perceive it as 'Scott Pilgrim' but as...shudder...'Transformers'. And that's not a good prospect
The only movie of Del Toro's that I've seen is Pan's Labyrinth, a great movie indeed. Nonetheless, I'm still intending to see Pacific Rim mainly because of a great interview Del toro did with Ken Levine and the many amazing insights he gave about storytelling in general. I have taken many of his points to heart in my own writings and am eager to see if his latest film reflects those insights (and I intend also to watch the rest of his previous films as well).
I'm gonna be honest its Giant robots vs giant monsters. I don't need any reason more than that to see it.
You sold me on this movie when you said Del Toro is directing the movie. Before that I really didn't pay any attention to the movie at all. Didn't watch any trailers, or seen any press.
However I will support the movie for one fact. I want a certain rated R film Del Toro wants to get made. "At the Mountains of Madness". A true Lovecraftian story addapted to film. With the visionary director behind Pan's Labyrinth, and Hellboy 2(Say what you want about this movie but the Troll Market was just amazing. Even though it was a meh filler movie.) I would just have to see this movie for how he portrays the monsters.
So if by supporting this movie has just a chance to green light that movie then I'm on board to seeing Pacific Rim. Who knows I might actually enjoy this movie too.
However I will support the movie for one fact. I want a certain rated R film Del Toro wants to get made. "At the Mountains of Madness". A true Lovecraftian story addapted to film. With the visionary director behind Pan's Labyrinth, and Hellboy 2(Say what you want about this movie but the Troll Market was just amazing. Even though it was a meh filler movie.) I would just have to see this movie for how he portrays the monsters.
So if by supporting this movie has just a chance to green light that movie then I'm on board to seeing Pacific Rim. Who knows I might actually enjoy this movie too.
Sigh... I am still quite wary of this movie. Something tells me that this is going to get the Mecha genre completely wrong - and that something is what I have read in terms of opinions so far. Mecha is about the pilots' struggle against themselves much more than about giant robots fighting an external threat (see "08th MS Team" for a great example that is not Evangelion-like silly, or read the book Mecha Corps - it's not too well written, but has pretty good characters). It is about coping with the responsibility, about personal issues and how they must be overcome. The characters don't seem like they can support that.
Edit: Also, I didn't really like any of Del Toros movies so far. But honestly, that doesn't bar him from making one that I would like.
Edit: Also, I didn't really like any of Del Toros movies so far. But honestly, that doesn't bar him from making one that I would like.
This movie does interest me, as when I saw the trailer, my first thought was there would be a new Godzilla movie. Then I saw that it looks like a good combo of Gundam and Godzilla, so even if it's straight ass, I'd probably still enjoy it.
Well, I shall certainly be seeing Pacific Rim, as IMO it is this years big movie. Something bold and different and more importantly something original. Seeing as we may never see Evangelion like this way, this is the next best thing.
I do agree that much of Hollywood is losing much of its imagination, that's why its leaning much more of comic books and novels for influence and adaptions. Over the last few years, it also seems that much of the better imagination and creativity has gone into original tv shows than movies, so its good to see movies raise their game.
I do agree that much of Hollywood is losing much of its imagination, that's why its leaning much more of comic books and novels for influence and adaptions. Over the last few years, it also seems that much of the better imagination and creativity has gone into original tv shows than movies, so its good to see movies raise their game.
I could be cynical but I guess I wont sincce this seems to be viewed positively, but to me this isnt really original (seeing giant robots fighting something of equal size or just monsters is something that's been seen in the anime world enough time its its own genre). I mean, I like the idea behind it and yeah its better tahn sitting through just sequels and remakes (not that i'm disappointed there's a carrie remake, its been a while since the property's been touched and im looking forward to an updated take on it especially if the director is good. Hell I and probably other king fans would enjoy seeing more of his old stuff revisited [third times the charm for 'salem's lot eh? and you cant tell me a dark tower series wouldnt make mad bank]), but I just dont see it as that big original story and savior of hollywood ideals some people seem to be making it. its just a movie about big robots fighting big monsters and one of those "lets just give the nerds what they want cause the big bang theory and (almost) all our marvel commic book movies are doing well" things that hollywood is trying investing into as the culture changes. Still something I'm willing to go see, but not something i'm going to hold on a pedestal.
... besides, whenever someone complains to me about originality I'm always reminded about a quote a friend told me second hand that went something like there's only five real basic stories in all of history and everything i just putting a spin on one those.
... besides, whenever someone complains to me about originality I'm always reminded about a quote a friend told me second hand that went something like there's only five real basic stories in all of history and everything i just putting a spin on one those.
You just listed four of my most anticipated movies!
Pacific Rim
Elysium
Only God Forgives
The Worlds End
So yeah...I definitely agree with this! I have the skeleton of an original screenplay (actually I have 2 different ideas) in my head. I just need the time and motivation to put it onto paper...stupid university sapping my creative energy.
Pacific Rim
Elysium
Only God Forgives
The Worlds End
So yeah...I definitely agree with this! I have the skeleton of an original screenplay (actually I have 2 different ideas) in my head. I just need the time and motivation to put it onto paper...stupid university sapping my creative energy.
Huh. And I was planning to see this because a cast that includes Ron Perlman and Idris Elba are going to be making a live action version of Godannar....unfortunately with less TnA. But hey, nothing is perfect.
The spin-offs/rip offs for Pacific Rim might just be more interesting than the actual movie, will be worth watching. One critic complained that there was "not enough sympathy for the monsters" that you get from traditional Kaiju movies.
Also this seems to be a good outcome from the aborted Hollywood remakes of Evangelion. I wish they would END THE SERIES and not keep trying to re-jig it after all this time.
I did buy the three box sets of Godzilla movies, the only one I could not watch was the kid's movie. Some of them are a lot more brutal than you would expect. In the Terror of Mechagodzilla, Godzilla gets his arse kicked and in Godzilla vs. Destroyah there is an erie premonition of Fukishima when Godzilla attacks a power plant from the sea.
Also this seems to be a good outcome from the aborted Hollywood remakes of Evangelion. I wish they would END THE SERIES and not keep trying to re-jig it after all this time.
I did buy the three box sets of Godzilla movies, the only one I could not watch was the kid's movie. Some of them are a lot more brutal than you would expect. In the Terror of Mechagodzilla, Godzilla gets his arse kicked and in Godzilla vs. Destroyah there is an erie premonition of Fukishima when Godzilla attacks a power plant from the sea.
Anyone else betting that there probably will be another spidey reboot in the 2020's? 
Anyway I have a gut feeling I will end up seeing this film regardless of the reviews(my friends don't pay as much attention to them as I do) but if the decision was entirely up to me I would like to see the reviews first. Take unknown chances is ok but I generally try to avoid them whenever possible. So here's looking forward to tomorrow's ETTM.
Anyway I have a gut feeling I will end up seeing this film regardless of the reviews(my friends don't pay as much attention to them as I do) but if the decision was entirely up to me I would like to see the reviews first. Take unknown chances is ok but I generally try to avoid them whenever possible. So here's looking forward to tomorrow's ETTM.