The Big Picture: The Numbers
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I'm a game enthusiast but I just can't bring myself to watch Scott Pilgrim. It just seems way too... Iunno. Weird?
I just don't like the big text and effects that pop up, it seems almost like the videogame references are forced because of stuff like that.
I just don't like the big text and effects that pop up, it seems almost like the videogame references are forced because of stuff like that.
Bob is half-right, but he's also half-wrong, too. As has been pointed out previously, ATMOM was cancelled more for budgetary reasons than over concerns about its rating. That and Del Toro had commitment issues as he had a lot of other irons in the fire, ATMOM being just one of them.
Also, I find it hard to believe still that studios would balk at making an R-rated movie, claiming they "don't make money." Bullshit. The Matrix made money. 300 made money. Watchmen made money (at least on its first weekend) And yes, even The Expendables - which Bob hates - made money. I don't want to hear that it's because "Teenagers can't see them." That's bullshit too. Teenagers have always been getting into R-rated movies and still are. Last time I checked, there weren't security guards at the ticket stand.
The only time studios were gun-shy about making R-rated movies was in the wake of Columbine, as movie studios were being closely scrutinized over marketing violent entertainment to children. But it's been over a decade since then, and I don't think that excuse carries as much weight as it once did. Or else why do they keep making Saw movies? Or even Scre4m? So while you can blame ATMOM for not being made for a variety of reasons, the rating was the least of it.
Also, I find it hard to believe still that studios would balk at making an R-rated movie, claiming they "don't make money." Bullshit. The Matrix made money. 300 made money. Watchmen made money (at least on its first weekend) And yes, even The Expendables - which Bob hates - made money. I don't want to hear that it's because "Teenagers can't see them." That's bullshit too. Teenagers have always been getting into R-rated movies and still are. Last time I checked, there weren't security guards at the ticket stand.
The only time studios were gun-shy about making R-rated movies was in the wake of Columbine, as movie studios were being closely scrutinized over marketing violent entertainment to children. But it's been over a decade since then, and I don't think that excuse carries as much weight as it once did. Or else why do they keep making Saw movies? Or even Scre4m? So while you can blame ATMOM for not being made for a variety of reasons, the rating was the least of it.
Wow that lovecraft movie would have been amazing! Maybe one day it will be made, lets all hope.
This is also the reason the Bioshock movie. Almost to a "T." Verbinski wanted a R rating, but Universal eventually decided that was too expensive to support.
I was extremely saddened by this episode.
I was extremely saddened by this episode.
Scott Pilgrim was awsome, I normaly don't go out to the movies as much as I should, but I made sure to watch in the theators and I got my money's worth. Expendables I was draged out to see, and eah, had alot of places where it coulda been alot better, but there's worse movies that made you want to claw your eyes out.
So... it's Scott Pilgrim's fault that we don't get a Lovecraft movie?
Joking aside, what grinds me the most about the film industry is the whole "ratings" bullspit. Screw teenagers; R movies are where the entertainment's at because they don't have such absurd restrictions for content that has become status quo years ago. Not that the FCC or any pro-censorship types would understand, of course. If teens have the cash, let 'em in to an R film. It's not pornography for crying out loud, it's a few f's above a PG-13 flick, maybe some more graphic gore, and, OH GEEZ!!! maybe some, some nudity. Get a grip, society. Chances are these same teens being "sheltered" from "mature" content have that same crap on their phones while taking the bus.
I see it as truly pathetic that whether or not a movie is PG-13 or R rated plays such a determining role in its box office performance. We are essentially handing over the reigns of what could or could not be fully realized artistic expression to the same damn group who makes Justin Beiber rich (13 year olds, as they are the minimum age).
*Just to be clear, I'm definitely not saying that all 13 year olds have created Justin Beiber. That would be terrible.
Joking aside, what grinds me the most about the film industry is the whole "ratings" bullspit. Screw teenagers; R movies are where the entertainment's at because they don't have such absurd restrictions for content that has become status quo years ago. Not that the FCC or any pro-censorship types would understand, of course. If teens have the cash, let 'em in to an R film. It's not pornography for crying out loud, it's a few f's above a PG-13 flick, maybe some more graphic gore, and, OH GEEZ!!! maybe some, some nudity. Get a grip, society. Chances are these same teens being "sheltered" from "mature" content have that same crap on their phones while taking the bus.
I see it as truly pathetic that whether or not a movie is PG-13 or R rated plays such a determining role in its box office performance. We are essentially handing over the reigns of what could or could not be fully realized artistic expression to the same damn group who makes Justin Beiber rich (13 year olds, as they are the minimum age).
*Just to be clear, I'm definitely not saying that all 13 year olds have created Justin Beiber. That would be terrible.
Where was that other article, about how 20% of Americans consider themselves proud geeks? I guess the flipside (glass half empty) to that, unfortunately, is that the other 80% are all those pop culture fans, jocks, sports guys and people who watch Fast and Furious films. Aghhh!
Well, I'll keep my fingers crossed and hope someone goes in on At the Mountains of Madness....I am dead certain it would be an amazing movie under del Toro.
Well, I'll keep my fingers crossed and hope someone goes in on At the Mountains of Madness....I am dead certain it would be an amazing movie under del Toro.
Just because you don't like a movie/ genre doesn't make it bad. Looking at it from a totally neutral perspective, the twilight series is genuinely good, the expendables not so much. The expendables did things that had been done before, better than they had been done before, but it still felt stagnant.MacNille said:
The only reason i watched that movies was because of Jason Statham.
I thought it was good, but god damn, people need to start taking higher risks in that industry, if I see one more samey action flick, or a love story thats been done before, or even a drama that has no tension, I'm going to flip kick the producers of each movie in the head.
um.... shit, sorry I cut a sentence or two out, they were rather pointless for this response, but you can get that shit from Google, anywhere praticually without an age requirement, its really retarteded that we can't just let them jump in to horror movies when they reach, I don't know, 12 or something, and praticually all 9-15 year old girls created Justin Bieber. And I bet without ratings, we would have less cookie cutter shit crowding, well, everything, they would still be there in small hints or nibbles that if your not mentally sound enough to see *list of things* then don't see this movie, that would probably work, people could get in at anytime if they just fork up the cashSelectivelyEvil13 said:
Geek culture is not the antithesis to the pop-culture. Geek culture is a sub-genre of pop culture.camazotz said:
It was correctly stated that in essence Scott Pilgrim is Twilight for nerdy boys.
The antithesis to the pop-culture would be art-house productions and contemporary art. Stuff that hipsters watch.
Like that movie "Beyond silence" (Jenseits der Stille)
But then again... *puts on hipster glasses*
you probably never heard of it.
YEAHH!!!
Damn good video, I'm crushed there's no At the Mountains of Madness, I really really want it to happen
Keep flogging Expendables, Bob.
Oh well, at least this Big Picture was about the thing Moviebob actually knows: movies. Ergo, it was actually pretty decent for this show.
Oh well, at least this Big Picture was about the thing Moviebob actually knows: movies. Ergo, it was actually pretty decent for this show.
Defend your points immediately, or be forever branded a troll.baconsarnie said:
On the topic of the episode, I think that was the most bitter-sounding "I'm Bob, and that's the Big Picture" I've ever heard.
Oh for the love of, I'm angrier than I thought I could ever be. I don't even like Horror genre stuff but a movie based on a Lovecraft book backed by such talent and power and skill, that I would see and heck it might be the thing that finally gets me into horror movies. But noooooo the idiot legions of the world decided they'd rather watch *censored* people riding around in import cars and making macho jokes at each other while having boring gun fights with giant robots sometimes visible through the fog who don't do anything but say stupid things.
This is why we never have nice things, because no one wants to be smart, they all want to follow the crowd, and hey you know what I bet quite a number of the people who made fast 5 possible didn't even want to see it all that much, they just didn't want to be caught not in the appearance of not liking something all their idiot friends liked, that's the horror of high school, not the bullying or the segregation, the conformity that keeps people from wanting to do what they want to do for fear of being shunned.
You know what, something has to be done, no not writing to Universal, they can kiss my *censored* for all I care for passing on a project that might have finally gotten me into the movies for horror. If I can get the chance I'm boycotting the next big action grabber for morons like the expendables or Fast 5, and if anyone says they're anticipating a movie like that, or transformers 3, I'm going to shun them and treat them like the crap they deserve if they refuse to change their choice, then tell them these reasons and add "people like you are the fault we can't have nice creative things. So you can *long expletives deleted*
The sad thing is is that if Del Toro does get to do his dream, he's going to have to do it as a puppet show by this point (comparatively speaking) and not only will he not have the power he wanted behind it, but it will not be as successful because the rather crappy budget he'll have to settle for will make the CGI either non-existent or as low grade as the PS1.
To you, idiot legions of the world who let this happen, stop going to the movies and buying video games, do something more beneficial, like skydiving, or join PETA (so you might be too busy making an as of yourself that everyone hates), or submit yourself for drug testing, or I don't know, buy cigarrets and drugs instead of movie tickets so not only will those movies get less money you won't be around much longer to create these problems, or anything that would do better than giving crap like that money it should never have.
Yes that was harsh, but I'm just ticked here and I had to get this off my chest, plus I had impacted wisdom tooth surgery today so my mouth is quite sore as well.
Thank you Moviebob, your continued crusade for good taste against these legions of morons is one of the few things I see actively working to help the creativity of humanity, too bad those idiot legions will never see this or take it seriously.
Oh I know, perfect solution to get rid of those idiots, give them all copies of every Jackass show and movie ever made with the "don't try this at home" disclaimer removed, that should thin their numbers
This is why we never have nice things, because no one wants to be smart, they all want to follow the crowd, and hey you know what I bet quite a number of the people who made fast 5 possible didn't even want to see it all that much, they just didn't want to be caught not in the appearance of not liking something all their idiot friends liked, that's the horror of high school, not the bullying or the segregation, the conformity that keeps people from wanting to do what they want to do for fear of being shunned.
You know what, something has to be done, no not writing to Universal, they can kiss my *censored* for all I care for passing on a project that might have finally gotten me into the movies for horror. If I can get the chance I'm boycotting the next big action grabber for morons like the expendables or Fast 5, and if anyone says they're anticipating a movie like that, or transformers 3, I'm going to shun them and treat them like the crap they deserve if they refuse to change their choice, then tell them these reasons and add "people like you are the fault we can't have nice creative things. So you can *long expletives deleted*
The sad thing is is that if Del Toro does get to do his dream, he's going to have to do it as a puppet show by this point (comparatively speaking) and not only will he not have the power he wanted behind it, but it will not be as successful because the rather crappy budget he'll have to settle for will make the CGI either non-existent or as low grade as the PS1.
To you, idiot legions of the world who let this happen, stop going to the movies and buying video games, do something more beneficial, like skydiving, or join PETA (so you might be too busy making an as of yourself that everyone hates), or submit yourself for drug testing, or I don't know, buy cigarrets and drugs instead of movie tickets so not only will those movies get less money you won't be around much longer to create these problems, or anything that would do better than giving crap like that money it should never have.
Yes that was harsh, but I'm just ticked here and I had to get this off my chest, plus I had impacted wisdom tooth surgery today so my mouth is quite sore as well.
Thank you Moviebob, your continued crusade for good taste against these legions of morons is one of the few things I see actively working to help the creativity of humanity, too bad those idiot legions will never see this or take it seriously.
Oh I know, perfect solution to get rid of those idiots, give them all copies of every Jackass show and movie ever made with the "don't try this at home" disclaimer removed, that should thin their numbers