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G-Force

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DearFilm said:
I am a gamer and a lite-to-moderate geek, but I still found Scott Pilgrim terrible. It is just like how I felt about Paul: references and winks and nudges do not make up for a poorly constructed story.
If Scott Pilgrim only put references for the sake of references then I would be inclined to agree with this statement. However the use of game motifs was used as visual and metaphorical representations of the themes of the storyline.

Take the base premise of Scott Pilgrim having to defeat Ramona's ex boyfriends in order to date here, here we have a typical video game plot where the hero as to defeat a series of bosses in order to claim the princess. In reality when a guy is interested in a girl who has had ex boyfriends he feels a certain need to "surpass" the exes to deem himself worthy in the girl's eyes. In essence the gauntlet of fights Scott goes through represents how he is maturing into a person worthy to be loved by Ramona.

Another example is the "Power of Love/Self Respect" scenes where Scott finally shows initiative and actually challenges a boyfriend instead of being passive and waiting for them to come to him. While the Sword of Love was able to grant him confidence and aid him in his fight, it breaks easily when truly tested against Gideon Graves. Many people are motivated to do great things based on love alone but simply acting on love without self respect can only get a person so far.

This is why I loved the movie to hell and back because of how it used nerd culture within it's story telling. A lesser film would have just thrown in a simple Mario reference and just called it a day but here they were used as central parts of the story telling.

I must also add that Scott Pilgrim's rating in Rotten Tomatoes is over 80%. Many of those reviewers are not part of the gaming culture and are of the older age demographic. If these people praised the film then that means it did have a certain universal appeal.
 

Weasker

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Scott Pilgrim didn't even fucking reached my god damn country, and you can bet your arse The Expendables did.
Well, at least I was able to buy the retro game for the PS3 using a PSN Store account that lied about my country. Latin America for the suck.
 

ctlee93

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when Vin Diesel gets to make the same movie 5 times and the Lovecraft gets shut down, SOMETHING IS WRONG...
 

Noebahde

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The main thing that came into my mind is that Edger Allen Poe only made four dollars on his poem The Raven
 

Zing

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Even though this is true. You don't need that absolutely huge budget and backing to make a great film, even if it is a lovecraft movie with monsters. Look at District 9. Made on a budget of only $30 million and it had amazing effects, and made a ton of money for the studios.

ctlee93 said:
when Vin Diesel gets to make the same movie 5 times and the Lovecraft gets shut down, SOMETHING IS WRONG...
Vin was only in 3 of the movies, he bowed out after the first one and stayed away from the franchise for 8 years (not counting a 10 second cameo at the end of the third movie).

Just sayin'..
 

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baconsarnie said:
I totally agree with this apart from:
1. The expendables was actually a pretty good film.
2. Scott pilgrim was an incredibly poor film.
I find myself in complete agreement. I went and saw both in the theaters, and left gleeful after one, sorely disappointed after the latter.
 

punipunipyo

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shame... crap like fast5 will continue to rock house, we'll all still be haters, and really good projects will end up being tossed or under budget...
 

nuba km

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LordBojangles said:
Isn't the whole business model for the film industry kind of broken nowadays? People haven't primarily used theaters to see movies for a while now...why such emphasis on box office?
because box office is what brings in a majority of the money as a LOT of people still go to the cinema and how well a movie does in the box office depends on whether it gets a squeal or not(most of the time).

I saw scott pilgrim and bought the DVD, I want my lovecraft.
 

Naqel

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This episode felt so... brutal. I mean, the message alone hurts, and maybe that's why it feels like that, but I'm totally giving Bob the credit for making the delivery feel that way too.
 

Schmittler

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After the experiences I had today, I enormous respect for these videos and words of wisdom. The sad thing is, the same people that are complaining about all the sequels that come out are sometimes the same people that go to those every single year. It really is our responsibility to go to movies that deserve the money.
 

trebthegamer

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i didn't even get to see scott pilgrim in cinema's. no not as in i didn't want to. i couldn't or at least never even hear about our cinema getting it in. how can i help them make money if they don't even offer it or even worse hide it. i've kept check on our major cinema for WEEKS since i heard it people saw it. and what did my cinema gave me? anything but scott pilgrim. they need to check the movies path to every cinema. cus it isn't the movie's quality that lacks. i can tell you that.
 

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Movie theaters are dead. It is no wonder that the only thing that still makes money in them appeal to the lowest common denominator.
 

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baconsarnie said:
1. The expendables was actually a pretty good film.
2. Scott pilgrim was an incredibly poor film.
You're half right. Now, I leave the rest of you to figure out which half I'm referencing.

LET THE FLAM WAR BEGIN!!!
 

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SpiderJerusalem said:
The FF movies are made with relatively small budgets as well, which is why they can make their money back - or make more than SP made, which, considering the failure it was, isn't that hard.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Fast Five had a budget of $125 million. I do think the earlier ones were much cheaper though.
 

the Dept of Science

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Hey guys, lets look on the positive side. Inception made a shitload of money. So did Black Swan. So did The Social Network. 3 movies that show that movies can be clever, arty and financially successful, which will hopefully be reflected in the upcoming months.
 

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Megacherv said:
Ladies and Gentlemen, Call of Duty

Need I really say any more?
True to a degree.

You see, Call of Duty actually does what it does well, or at least better than others.

Yes, it's now the cookie cutter format for the modern FPS, but you can't deny that CoD titles are actually quite addicting. While I love to rage at those camping, heartbeat-sensing mofos which the game's shortcomings in design allows, it succeeded at holding my interest despite that.

Call of Duty is not analogous to "The Expendables"- poorly made games based on CoD are.
(^ I know you didn't say otherwise (since your post was short), but I thought it was a valid point.)