The Big Picture: The Numbers
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...the idea of a midnight, regular showing of Scott Pilgrim where everyone gets together, dresses up, and expresses their love of the movie via choreographed actions and hilarious traditions...BrownGaijin said:
MAKE.
THIS.
HAPPEN.
SOON.
=D
Capitalism doesn't have any intention except to make money for investors. It isn't meant to promote art or good things. In fact, Laissez-fair capitalism will always lead to monopolies and economic tyranny if left unchecked. It's just the best system because the economy is too complicated to be run by the government.LawlessSquirrel said:
The truth hurts. Great googily moogily, does it hurt.
When i say box office doesn't matter, i mean that it doesn't matter how GOOD something is. Unfortunately, you're completely right Bob. Now if only i can get my family to listen to me when i say "wait for it on PPV"
When i say box office doesn't matter, i mean that it doesn't matter how GOOD something is. Unfortunately, you're completely right Bob. Now if only i can get my family to listen to me when i say "wait for it on PPV"
Not only that, but this was Del Toro's dream movie. Also, people who had read the script (or treatment or whatever) supposedly said it was amazing. So yeah, hurray.sheogoraththemad said:
A Facebook page encouraging people to get their local theaters to do this could potentially help. Scott Pilgrim certainly has the fan base potential for something like this to happen.PortalThinker113 said:
On the opposite end of the money, I'd love to see every midnight of May 4th to the 9th to have theaters showing the Star Wars trilogy.
I have yet to see anything he's made that's really good. I saw both hellboy movies and was meh. Hellboy 2 had easily the worst comic villain of all time. I could have easily defeated him despite my lack of super powers....just beat up his sister instead of hitting him. The effect is the same, honor be damned. He only posed a threat because the heroes suffered from plot induced stupidity over and over.(especially Abe....what a tool.)
As for this video staing the obvious then Bob trying matyr geek culture...oh please. Get off your cross. (so you start using it as a sub weapon heh.) I'm glad Scott Pilgrim failed horribly, for same reason the Watchmen just broke even. Had either been a smashing sucess then we'd seen cash grab sequels forced upon properties that were never intented to have them. I think the way played out was ideal....the movies were made they broke even. We got a decent product(scott Pilgrim was alright, but not the second coming some forums love to make it out to be.), but we won't see a pointless sequel. I mean how would have a cash grab of Scott Pilgrim or the Watchmen been any better than any other cash grab hollywood does?
I actually kind of revel in the fact geek culture got it's day lights punched out by jocks on yet another level. This in a perfect world anything original would automatically succeed and what isn't wouldn't ever be made be at all is crap. I happen like the way the world works myself, and the idea something is entitled to success based on a trait not merit is worse than what we currently have. I like see weaklings get beat down because I'd hate live in a world that promotes weakness and entitlement.(more than it already does in the US. Vay Victus..suffering to the conquered. If you suck..enjoy the bitter taste of defeat so you have motivation to push to be better.) You earn what you do based on performance. If the score card is money...then either do what you believe what get you the most if that's your goal. If you want to tell the story you want to tell, then be prepared to pay consequences if it horribly fails. If you can't afford to lose then do it. It's that simple.
Originality is NOT the high road. It's just a different road. I mean monkey poop pies are original but doesn't mean people should rush out to get them. Originality is overrated since most ideas in the end are just a rehash of something else. In case of Scott Pilgrim it's very much like Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless mind with geek references. The fact it's a barrage of geek references instead of jock world ones doesn't somehow make it more entitled to success. It's just an aesthic you prefer over the usual. It's not somehow inheritly superior because you like it.
If you're on the Escapist... There's a good chance(better than odds of asking 100 random people on the street.) you're probably part of the target audience for Scott Pilgrim. (and other project mention.) it's a niche audience in the end...and probably should have had a much smaller budget. Someone screwed up....it's not the publics fault. It's whoever greenlighted the budget/ or spend the tons of cash on it without really promoting the film properly. There was a cluster F**k of factors going against this film.(doesn't help Michael Cera's performance was flatter than week old soda. He didn't have enough swagger be Scott Pilgrim.) I blame poor planning and low demand for this.
Not because the world made of idiots because something I like failed.(This people are stupid because they like different stuff needs stop Bob...you're a Moron if you believe that.I mean little kids like my niece and nephew loved the transformers films...you like picking on lil kids Bob? That is why sweeping overgeneralizations is bad. ) That's a fool's way out. You're no better than the public if you lack so little imagination to see how this movie could have worked out fine. I don't see as noble for people throw money at projects without fear...I see it as stupid. If I was an invester I'd be ticked off if people were blowing my hard earned cash on Scott Pilgrim. I'd want them to take few safe films because trying any riskier moves again too.
Which I remember seeing a quote...If Scott Pilgrim were a real person He'd probably pirated his own movie rather than pay for it. That probably didn't help this movies cause. Alot of people who would have enjoyed it didn't pay to see it. I did, along with a ticket for the girl I was seeing at the time. (who probably sees me as an evil Ex now heh.) I bought on blu ray, and actually skipped the expendables. (I've yet to see it in fact.) I did what you would have liked Bob, but I am minority and I'm ok with that.
I hate to say I think bob is entirely right in this.... but the logic is there, example sited, and now I am just sad for it. I am glad I saw Scott pilgrim in theaters though now. Really I am more angry at movies like the fast and the furious being made than I am at good movies not being made....
That was one of the best the big pictures that I have seen.
I have wondered for a while if there are more people in the sort of demographic that films like Scott Pilgrim are aimed at that would be easily able to/happy to pirate the film. If this was the case then those sort of films would be taking massive hits at the box office.
I'm not saying that all the people who wanted to see the expendables (to use movibobs example) are incapable of pirating but I know a lot of people who watched in online after my partner and I recommended it to them after seeing it in a half empty cinema.
I have wondered for a while if there are more people in the sort of demographic that films like Scott Pilgrim are aimed at that would be easily able to/happy to pirate the film. If this was the case then those sort of films would be taking massive hits at the box office.
I'm not saying that all the people who wanted to see the expendables (to use movibobs example) are incapable of pirating but I know a lot of people who watched in online after my partner and I recommended it to them after seeing it in a half empty cinema.
This video should have ended with:
"I'm Bob, and that's the big picture...
...*****."
It would be appropriate, given the content. Another spot-on commentary on the movie business.
"I'm Bob, and that's the big picture...
...*****."
It would be appropriate, given the content. Another spot-on commentary on the movie business.
That is depressing, but at least the good movies are probably the ones people will remember. All of these mass produced blockbusters could go the way of disco (obviously a lot of people were listening to it, but they won't admit it now).
hmm. . .
I wonder if that would make good movies a better long term investment.
hmm. . .
I wonder if that would make good movies a better long term investment.
That...sucks. I mean seriously, that movie would have been f*cking awesome. Scott Pilgrim (which I own and saw in theatres) was literally one of the best movies I've ever seen. I'm still very sad it didn't make nearly as much money it deserved. *Sigh*