If you saw someone dragging a child away while they screamed for help, you'd think that people would try to help out right?
Is anyone else as surprised as I am by this??
Is anyone else as surprised as I am by this??
The Bystander Effect...
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I don't know. Maybe you should click the giant link saying "Watch on YouTube."shakaar9267 said:
OT: Nope, I gave up on humanity long ago.
That's like going into a hamburger restaurant and complaining that you're a vegetarian.shakaar9267 said:
You can't be on the internet and NOT use youtube.
Undoubtedly I would find myself confronting those involved; weary as possible, but taking note none-the-less. It also depends on the situation.
It looks/sounds more like a bratty kid than anything. "You're not my dad" is Hollywood cliche for "You're my stepfather/etc and I don't like you." It's not a particularly good recreation of how most people think of child abduction. And in most cases I think it winds up being a relative who does the abducting.
There are much better examples of the bystander effect and diffused responsibility.
There are much better examples of the bystander effect and diffused responsibility.
Once when I was about seven this guy thought I had broken his windshield and was trying to drag me to my parents so he could make them pay for it or something. Anyway, this woman thought he was kidnapping me and called the cops on him. It was just a big misunderstanding but it still scared the crap out of me.
There are still people who would try to help in that situation, there just aren't as many of them as there should be.
There are still people who would try to help in that situation, there just aren't as many of them as there should be.
Im not suprised, humans have a weird psychology when it comes to helping other people even when they cry for help. Though for children i cant blame some people for not wanting to get involved when children are screaming, because children cry when they don't want to do something. If their being dragged and saying there not their real parent then that's another story.
Actually people do that in restaurants all of the time, but I see your point. I wasn't complaining, I was asking.TheTaco007 said:
The diffusion of responsibility. That's pretty much what the Bystander effect is. Heck, if you don't know the origin of the effect, just Google Kitty Genovese and read what you find. Its kinda messed up that some people honestly wouldn't help in those situations.
This right here, the bystander effect is an actual psychological term; homes have burned down because everyone thought someone else would report it; its human nature to think, "Well someone else is bound to have reported/stopped that."maddawg IAJI said:
I like how those 2 guys looked at each other like "we're about to save this kid" and dashed towards the guy, followed by the fake kidnapper quickly responding that they are on tv in a 'please don't hurt me' tone. At least somebody realized that the kid needed help.
To answer your question, shakar9267... what happened was they staged this abduction of this 7 year old girl. The man playing the kidnapper just walked up to her--as she stood by herself--grab her and act like she was his kid and wandered off, scolding her. The girl kept yelling at him to stop and let her go; telling everyone else that he wasn't her dad and to please help her...
Many people just walked by. They looked curiously but didn't stop long enough as she got dragged away. The scenario was repeated at least 3-4 times. And it wasn't until the last time that we got a good response. Two black men walking by and one in a car passing by all acted. They seemed to pause then rushed over charging to try to stop him. According to the actor in the following interview, there was an older woman unseen who was on her phone dialing 911 as well...
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For me, I'm inclined to agree with the mother. People are afraid to get involved. There's probably a lot of reasons for that like such as being worried they're wrong and feeling foolish or something else...
I think because of this, I'm personally a bit paranoid every time I hear a crying child. I pay attention when I see a kid to make sure I know who's watching them. I'm at attention when they cry to see if anything is slightly off. Don't know what I'd do if I ever did witness this but I'm sure I'll know when it happens.
Many people just walked by. They looked curiously but didn't stop long enough as she got dragged away. The scenario was repeated at least 3-4 times. And it wasn't until the last time that we got a good response. Two black men walking by and one in a car passing by all acted. They seemed to pause then rushed over charging to try to stop him. According to the actor in the following interview, there was an older woman unseen who was on her phone dialing 911 as well...
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For me, I'm inclined to agree with the mother. People are afraid to get involved. There's probably a lot of reasons for that like such as being worried they're wrong and feeling foolish or something else...
I think because of this, I'm personally a bit paranoid every time I hear a crying child. I pay attention when I see a kid to make sure I know who's watching them. I'm at attention when they cry to see if anything is slightly off. Don't know what I'd do if I ever did witness this but I'm sure I'll know when it happens.
Yeah, there are better examples but I was actually surprised by this video, so I decided to post it... I mean, why the hell not, right?Dags90 said:
But to be fair, I wouldn't say screaming for help repeatedly is a cliche in real life...
Yeah, that!
She wasn't just saying this isn't my dad. She was also yelling "somebody, please help me!" A lot. A whole lot.
She wasn't just saying this isn't my dad. She was also yelling "somebody, please help me!" A lot. A whole lot.
not really, we live in a country where you get more attention from screaming "fire" than "help" or "rape", and then it's only because people fear for their own safety
If you ever end up in a situation like that, where you are stepping in, you and everyone else in that situation unconciously sizes up and makes assumptions about those around you - i.e who is on your side and who isn't, who is involved and who isn't. It's automatic and it's part of the whole fight or flight thought process - those guys either nodded to each other or made eye contact and without a spoken word cooperated. Such is the power of a shared mindset.Xcelsior said:
I think it's admirable that they stepped in. Things are different here in the UK (but not that much) - I've seen a study which said 80% of males would NOT go anywhere near a screaming kid incase there was a misunderstanding or someone shouted "pedo". Not even kidding.
I can understand why though. An accusation seems to be enough to ruin someones life, whether they are guilty or innocent is secondary.
If I saw that though I wouldn't think I'd just act. I wouldn't be able to sleep at night if I didn't do something. Especially if the next day there was an appeal for witnesses regarding a kidnapping...