I completely agree with you except on your interpretation of that last quote, it is entirely possible that poster meant the "social justice warriors" when s/he used the phrase "these people".MarsAtlas said:
The Colbert Retort
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I went through a SJW phase when I was a teenager... I once tried to have a custom Warcraft 3 map pulled from a download site because it was 'racist' because the npcs you killed for experience were obviously inferred to be Aboriginals. Then I got my comeuppance when someone of Aboriginal descent chimed in that he didn't give a shit about the map but found my claiming to be offended on his behalf actually offensive because it was belittling. Lesson learned!
People won't grow out of it anymore because Twitter, Tumblr and Facebook have evolved into echo-chambers where they can get their view passively reinforced with retweets, hashtags etc and ignore any criticism by dismissing it as 'trolling'.
The sad thing is that they give ammunition to people who want to be legitimately racist by claiming it as an example of 'political correctness gone mad'.
People won't grow out of it anymore because Twitter, Tumblr and Facebook have evolved into echo-chambers where they can get their view passively reinforced with retweets, hashtags etc and ignore any criticism by dismissing it as 'trolling'.
The sad thing is that they give ammunition to people who want to be legitimately racist by claiming it as an example of 'political correctness gone mad'.
Hang on... American people getting offended? WHAT? YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME!
Now really, I barely know what the Colbert Report is, or even the character/guy for that matter, but I read CHING CHONG DING DONG and already knew it had to be a joke, since given the way that people refer to Colbert, him making an actually racist comment seems weird.
Also, I just can't really stand these "OMG DEFEND EVERYONE" movement that started some time ago, I get what's kind of the point of it, but I just think most of the time it gets borderline stupid with the amout of mislead "social warriors" yelling "everyone's special so F*CK YOU!", which is kind of mind-boggling.
Now really, I barely know what the Colbert Report is, or even the character/guy for that matter, but I read CHING CHONG DING DONG and already knew it had to be a joke, since given the way that people refer to Colbert, him making an actually racist comment seems weird.
Also, I just can't really stand these "OMG DEFEND EVERYONE" movement that started some time ago, I get what's kind of the point of it, but I just think most of the time it gets borderline stupid with the amout of mislead "social warriors" yelling "everyone's special so F*CK YOU!", which is kind of mind-boggling.
All you needed to know to not get offended by this is that the whole show's satire. These people make me sad for the future of humanity.
From the Colbert Report website:
"Tonight: Twitter Co-Founder Biz Stone stops by, and Stephen gets free technical help"
Perfect! Pretty sure all this is going to do is skyrocket his ratings.
OH and this is an interesting quote from the article MovieBob linked to about Park:
"Suey is not Park?s real first name. It's an online pseudonym playing off the name of the Chinese dish."
Describing herself as particularly tortured by a lifetime of such jokes... yet she makes herself into one?
Odd choice given her complaint... though I could see the name as "satire" on her part, if I believed she understood its use.
In most regards, I'm sure she is well-intentioned. But she is also more than a bit ignorant on the specific matter at hand and clearly out of her depth in terms of responding intelligently to the debate.
"Tonight: Twitter Co-Founder Biz Stone stops by, and Stephen gets free technical help"
Perfect! Pretty sure all this is going to do is skyrocket his ratings.
OH and this is an interesting quote from the article MovieBob linked to about Park:
"Suey is not Park?s real first name. It's an online pseudonym playing off the name of the Chinese dish."
Describing herself as particularly tortured by a lifetime of such jokes... yet she makes herself into one?
Odd choice given her complaint... though I could see the name as "satire" on her part, if I believed she understood its use.
In most regards, I'm sure she is well-intentioned. But she is also more than a bit ignorant on the specific matter at hand and clearly out of her depth in terms of responding intelligently to the debate.
Where twitter is bad for communication, and tumblr/sjw's take advantage of the lack of context to fuel their pseudo outrage.V8 Ninja said:
Oh wow after seeing that, I really hope Colbert tears her a new one. She's precisely the kind of person Colbert specializes in: someone completely oblivious to their own hypocrisy. Wouldn't surprise me if they invite her on the show at some point to let her completely speak her mind.Hunter85792 said:
I think people like Park is why the term "SJW" exists at all. I remember listing to an episode of the Dismal Jesters with Escapist's Jim Sterling, and they talked quite a bit about the definition of this word and how they don't quite get how its supposed to be derogatory. Well it is people like Park that make me understand. This idea that we should grab our pitch forks and torches to protest every small gaff, or threaten boycotts and revolutions for problems that simple open and honest communication could solve. People who pull out the sword when the pen would suffice. These are the people that give that word power.
I support the Asian American movement, and I am friends with quite a few people who may be considered activists in this movement who I would gladly help in any way I could. Certainly that's not to imply that I agree with everything they say, but they are vocal about what they believe, and are always willing to discuss the best way to move forward. Park is not one of these people. I could never support a person who believes that hate a bigotry should be battled with vitriol and spiteful bigotry of her own; or more likely doesn't even have the sense to know that this is what she is doing.
I support the Asian American movement, and I am friends with quite a few people who may be considered activists in this movement who I would gladly help in any way I could. Certainly that's not to imply that I agree with everything they say, but they are vocal about what they believe, and are always willing to discuss the best way to move forward. Park is not one of these people. I could never support a person who believes that hate a bigotry should be battled with vitriol and spiteful bigotry of her own; or more likely doesn't even have the sense to know that this is what she is doing.
i made it two minutes in before i had to stop. i can't wait til this girl returns the semi-anonymous status she came from. i mean, immediately she admits that her sensationalism is just that, not an actual call for action. she thinks that the only way to gather attention to a topic is to go as extremist as possible.Hunter85792 said:
@suey_park is 22, people are allowed to be stupid at 22. It would be nice if she apologized, but I get the sense that she is someone who can never admit to being wrong.
Well, they also tend to claim they are standing up for Freedom and the Constitution. So, there's plenty of hypocrisy to go around.Callate said:
No, I'm pretty sure it's not about disagreeing with her, and more about the harassing of her.ccdohl said:
There's nothing wrong with disagreeing with her opinions, but why the need for the ridiculous abuse?
I disagree with her strongly, but that doesn't mean harassment is OK. If she was a man, it's highly unlikely that she would get the same kind of threats.ccdohl said:
5 minutes in and i love his response already. first, the dismissive joke dream sequence, then right into a separate racial story, showing that he isn't going to be stopped from being who he is.
EDIT: handled perfectly throughout the whole first act. i love that the Malkin lady cosigned the "Cancel Colbert" movement and also wrote a book called "In Defense of Internment" haha. brilliant.
EDIT: handled perfectly throughout the whole first act. i love that the Malkin lady cosigned the "Cancel Colbert" movement and also wrote a book called "In Defense of Internment" haha. brilliant.
Aardvaarkman said:
They would have absolutely done the same thing if she was a man, it just would have been death threats instead of rape threats. This myth that men on the internet who say unpopular things, are in anyway insulated from the Internet hate train is laughable. The guy who made Fez is a sterling example. The guy was a bit of a prick, but that didn't mean he deserved the death threats and harassment. It was so bad it drove him out of the industry. What makes this any different. It's a person with an unpopular perspective trying to draw attention to herself, and the internet acted in a typical fashion of hand crafted personal insults and harassment. Hardly anything substantive, but non the less it's condensed hate being flung at you meant to go for as many low blows as possible.
Let me be clear here. I hate the way internet culture seems to foster this kind of behavior. I hate that it can be considered a standard affair now a days. I do want this kind of behavior to be lessened in someway. However, internet harassment and threats of this nature, are not a gender issue. It's just easier in our society to circle the wagons around a woman being harassed then a man who is being harassed. Plain and simple.
Absolute nonsense. There are men in this very thread who have posted essentially the same thing, and they have not got death threats.th3dark3rsh33p said:
You are aware that these women get death threats in addition to rape threats, right? Why is it that the men don't get rape threats, while women have to deal with the threats of both rape and death?
Totally wrong and complex. This just does not happen to males in the same way. It has a lot to do with gender.th3dark3rsh33p said:
The the men in this forum aren't starting a campaign to cancel a TV show. It is in NO way equivalent in the slightest. I once again bring you to Phil Fish, who was 100% harassed by the internet out of the spot light with very little sympathy until he actually left.Aardvaarkman said:
At the end of it. What makes a rape threat worse then a death threat? Seriously. Men get death threats against them and their families all the time when they are unpopular and drawing a lot of attention to themselves. What is your justification for a difference?