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Izanagi009 said:
It seems to be more coping than curing. In the case of bipolar, they probably want people to be able to handle their mind instead of curing it fully.
Exactly.

Interestingly, the Japanese way of looking at mental illness was quite ahead of its time at one point, in that it kind of preempted things like cognitive behavioural therapy. The problem in my experience is that everything tends to get bought back to anxiety, it's too often assumed that a person is worrying too much, or trying to control things they can't control, or is stressing themselves out by thinking about their own mental state rather than just focusing on being productive all the time.

And that's probably great for some things, but it's a woefully inadequate response sometimes. If you come in and say "I feel like nothing in my life is worthwhile and I fantasize about killing myself all the time" you don't really need someone to say "hmm, well it's normal to feel sad so don't worry so much about it so much and just try to act like a normal person".

Izanagi009 said:
news is coming in that Japan's mental care is horrible, maybe worse than the U.S. and that's saying something given our issues and stigmas combined with inefficiency shown after Sandy Hook.
Yes, it really is. :p
 

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evilthecat said:
Izanagi009 said:
It seems to be more coping than curing. In the case of bipolar, they probably want people to be able to handle their mind instead of curing it fully.
Exactly.

Interestingly, the Japanese way of looking at mental illness was quite ahead of its time at one point, in that it kind of preempted things like cognitive behavioural therapy. The problem in my experience is that everything tends to get bought back to anxiety, it's too often assumed that a person is worrying too much, or trying to control things they can't control, or is stressing themselves out by thinking about their own mental state rather than just focusing on being productive all the time.

And that's probably great for some things, but it's a woefully inadequate response sometimes. If you come in and say "I feel like nothing in my life is worthwhile and I fantasize about killing myself all the time" you don't really need someone to say "hmm, well it's normal to feel sad so don't worry so much about it so much and just try to act like a normal person".

Izanagi009 said:
news is coming in that Japan's mental care is horrible, maybe worse than the U.S. and that's saying something given our issues and stigmas combined with inefficiency shown after Sandy Hook.
Yes, it really is. :p
The issue may actually be the culture. A person in Japan is expected to stand both on their feet while being able to interact with others; in addition, mental issues or any type of stigmas have greater impact than in America. That would lead to more of a coping society instead of a curative society. What is interesting is that in the teenage demographic, a lot of Japanese have cases of anti-social behavior and depression (theory is that an oppressive school system (Japan due to it's group emphasis really hammers on outsiders such as otaku) and potential generational difference) that leads to suicides, some of the highest among youth in the world while American teenagers have cases of violence, anger management issues, and the like (note: this is based of high school experience from 2008-2012 in combination of news from within the country).

How is it a country with an arguably worse mental health care have more suicides and minimal violent crimes but America has much fewer suicides but has far higher violent crime rates?

as always, correct if needed
 

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NiPah said:
Was it really the comic strip that had the fans up in arms? I think you guys might be taking too much credit, for the most part it's the little nuggets of wisdom shit out from follow up comments that Eva fans get up in arms over.
You make a good point. Most of the comments I've seen complaining about the comic were not complaining about the comic itself(at least not today's comic), but instead talking more about the "EVA haters" coming in to call EVA dumb.
Copper Zen said:
If you're experiencing a drought then BRING BACK PENNY! Woo-hoo!!!

And the other's in Erin's workplace.

Some of us miss them... D:
I second this. D: I miss them all. Even Sharon.
 

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Nouw said:
I think you mean flame-bait ;P.

Oh come on, it's like the 4th Critical Miss on Evangelion don't try to deny it! There are two running gags with these strips, one is Shinji being a pussy and the other is outraged Eva fans.
Totally fucking called it in the last webcomic. Glad to see we're not even trying to hide it anymore although it is a bit disappointing to see that this is all they came up with. I'm waiting for the smack-down on 3.0 damn it x3.
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
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Is this seriously what you're going to do EVERY SINGLE TIME you can't think of what to make? Are you NEVER gonna stop beating this dead horse? Seriously, if you can't find any new material to use, then go back and make comics about old games, or political issues, or whatever. The constant piling of Evangelion comics isn't even funny more, it's just boring and predictable.
Nope.

Still funny :D

And I like the series.
God damn it, Daystar. Stop saying exactly what I think!

Casual Shinji said:
Daystar Clarion said:
Again, the joke was never about Evangelion.

They're taking the piss out of themselves for not being able to come up with anything.

There's not liking a joke, and then there's missing the joke entirely.
And yet that penny drops only now, with the first page filled with "*yuck yuck* So deep. Missing the point."

Yes, I get it's a dig at themselves, but it's completely covered in yet more obvious flaming.
The joke is mainly at their own expense. What all those readers get out of it is their own fault and a result of their own biases and sexual frustration over not being able to make sweet love to Kaworu. Er, Rei. I meant Rei.

Yes, definitely Rei.

Ryan Hughes said:
Question: Am I the only person who liked "Nadia and the Secret Blue Water" more than "Evangelion"?
Yes, because I think you're the only person here who's seen Nadia.

Oh, well, Shinji's probably seen it. He watches good anime. Pffft.

LazyAza said:
I like reading comments of people experiencing eva for the first time, that original series just fucking breaks by the end. It literally turns in to nonsensical madness and the ending... god almighty how dumb it still is to this day.

Then they made end of evangelion and that movie is 100% mind fuck. Then they made remake movie 1, it was awesome, remake movie 2, it was even more awesome, then they made 3 and... well, now I never want to watch anything eva related ever again. Fuck that third movie was so completely terrible. Two words: time skip.
Time skip? Oh, so it's like Code Geass, then. So it's awesome.

Or is it like Naruto, where it only gets good after the time skip?

*trollface.jpg*

Also, the first Rebuild wasn't very good.

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And now I need to learn how to play Magic.

Nouw said:
Nouw said:
I think you mean flame-bait ;P.

Oh come on, it's like the 4th Critical Miss on Evangelion don't try to deny it! There are two running gags with these strips, one is Shinji being a pussy and the other is outraged Eva fans.
Totally fucking called it in the last webcomic. Glad to see we're not even trying to hide it anymore although it is a bit disappointing to see that this is all they came up with. I'm waiting for the smack-down on 3.0 damn it x3.
You just don't understand Critical Miss. It's very deep.
 

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Dr. Cakey said:
Ryan Hughes said:
Question: Am I the only person who liked "Nadia and the Secret Blue Water" more than "Evangelion"?
Yes, because I think you're the only person here who's seen Nadia.

Oh, well, Shinji's probably seen it. He watches good anime. Pffft.
Oy, is that directed at me? How dare you make claims about me watching good stuff!

Eh, Nadia is cool. It's a Gainax show with an actual happy ending, hard to believe though that may be. Apart ofcourse from future WW2 fucking up Jean and Nadia's shit.
 

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Ken_J said:
Casual Shinji said:
So flaming for the sake of flaming for the sake of flaming, eh.

This is getting deep.
Deep and meaningful
But not as deep or meaningful as Elfen Lied.

Er, Evangelion. Yes, Evangelion, that's what I meant to say. Because Evangelion is bad and dumb...or something...apparently.

...

*flies away*
 

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Salad Is Murder said:
I approve.

Mostly because I think the series was mediocre at best and gets far accolades than it deserves. Also the fanbase is crazy-go-nuts about defending its flaws (which there are plenty, so I guess that can keep them busy) and shouting down opposing arguments because 'we just don't get it' or something.

Seriously, it's the Twilight of the anime world.
In that on all the boards you actually frequent there are far, far more people bitching about it than there are crazy-go-nuts about defending it? Seriously, it seems like a waste of perfectly usable vitriol. This, Twilight, Bieber, Half-Life 2, people just can't seem to get enough of complaining about things other people like. :p
 

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I like how this strip reignited the Eva fan and Eva hater debate, even though clearly Cory and Grey are more poking fun at themselves. I like this streak of self-deprecation, though if you could go back to focusing more on Erin soon, or any of your original characters, that'd be awesome. Not to cramp your style - I know you just did the three page rat story - I'm just seriously aching for some bloody closure, you know?
 

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I've enjoyed visual novels that offer up more to think about than Evangelion - and they weren't afraid to show the sex.

The Teenage Me used to love Evangelion - I was a quiet, awkward, socially backwards individual. I think a lot of people relate to Evangelion right around that time in their lives. The Adult Me, however, can't watch Eva or even attempt to take it seriously. I tried to watch it recently when Adult Swim aired 1.0 and felt pretty embarrassed. I hardly think of myself as an adult, but I've definitely escaped that teenager mind-set. Maybe Evangelion is only deep to people that never moved on.

Call it thought provoking if you want - at one time I would have agreed, but now, I just can't pull anything meaningful away from it that some other anime hasn't done better.
 

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Eh, okay, haha, but hopefully this is the last one? I mean after you make a joke about making jokes, it's kind of hard to go back to making the actual jokes again, so where do you go from there?

Salad Is Murder said:
I approve.

Mostly because I think the series was mediocre at best and gets far accolades than it deserves. Also the fanbase is crazy-go-nuts about defending its flaws (which there are plenty, so I guess that can keep them busy) and shouting down opposing arguments because 'we just don't get it' or something.

Seriously, it's the Twilight of the anime world.
No, Sword Art Online is the Twilight of the anime world. Evangelion is like the Shakespeare at this point - revered by some, called bullshit by others, and filled to the brim with sexual references - innuendo and otherwise.
 

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Dr. Cakey said:
Nouw said:
Nouw said:
I think you mean flame-bait ;P.

Oh come on, it's like the 4th Critical Miss on Evangelion don't try to deny it! There are two running gags with these strips, one is Shinji being a pussy and the other is outraged Eva fans.
Totally fucking called it in the last webcomic. Glad to see we're not even trying to hide it anymore although it is a bit disappointing to see that this is all they came up with. I'm waiting for the smack-down on 3.0 damn it x3.
You just don't understand Critical Miss. It's very deep.
Come mate if you're going to take this piss at least try to sound convincing :p.

EDIT: Unless this is a deconstruction of their arguments, reflecting how lifeless and robotic they are /s.
 

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TheEvilCheese said:
Nimcha said:
I have absolutely no idea what this is about. Shame, I usually like this comic.
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Nimcha said:
I have absolutely no idea what this is about. Shame, I usually like this comic.
Same here.

Whatever this is about, it's gone right over my head...

It's in reference to the fact that Critical Miss has done a few strips satirizing Neon Genesis Evangelion (NGE) (one of the most contentiously-debated-about-its-influence anime shows ever)
Fixed for you :D
 

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Sheo_Dagana said:
I've enjoyed visual novels that offer up more to think about than Evangelion - and they weren't afraid to show the sex.

The Teenage Me used to love Evangelion - I was a quiet, awkward, socially backwards individual. I think a lot of people relate to Evangelion right around that time in their lives. The Adult Me, however, can't watch Eva or even attempt to take it seriously. I tried to watch it recently when Adult Swim aired 1.0 and felt pretty embarrassed. I hardly think of myself as an adult, but I've definitely escaped that teenager mind-set. Maybe Evangelion is only deep to people that never moved on.

Call it thought provoking if you want - at one time I would have agreed, but now, I just can't pull anything meaningful away from it that some other anime hasn't done better.
I first saw Evangelion when I was young, like 10 or 11. Didn't get a fucking thing, barely remembered it but did have a fond opinion of it for some reason, probably just liked Asuka or something.

I watched it really for the first time a couple months ago. It was alright, certainly interesting enough to hold my attention for the 26 episodes plus EOE and the first two Rebuilds. More important than appreciating it as a story is recognizing the influence it had on Anime as a medium, something plainly visible so many years since it first aired. I can see why it had an influence. It treated the personalities of it's characters like malleable and fragile things, built upon a house of cards to project the image of functionality... not really making my case as not being a fanboy, eh? I swear, I just have an old penchant for verbosity. Well the point is that it influenced shows and continues to influence shows with a darker psychological feel.

It's not that it's perfect, it's that it was something unexpected in it's time and it spawned a whole bunch of different and darker anime stories and, in my opinion, better written characters. I wholly believe without NGE or something like it, you'd never get something like Code Geass.
 

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Remind me never to read Critical Miss again. This shit is just continuing a joke that was only slightly funny in the first place, now it is just dull.
 
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xplosive59 said:
Remind me never to read Critical Miss again. This shit is just continuing a joke that was only slightly funny in the first place, now it is just dull.
Yeah, it's not nearly as entertaining as watching poster after poster miss the joke entirely :D