oh hey! transmetropolitanbluepotatosack said:Definitely Transmetropolitan, as well. Spider Jerusalem is basically cyberpunk Hunter S. Thompson.
ehhh I don't know you could say the same about a spirit level... (now if he was using some app to [I/]guide[/I] the middile..) lol nah I get your point. Thankyou! that was very informativeslo said:Technology in cyberpunk is fairly neutral too, if I recall correctly. It's just the usage of technology is odd and fightening because "the street finds its own uses for things".
An iPad is not bad by itself, but it can look quite scary when it is being used like this:
that looks cool...except I don't like point and click games...its like trying to read a book but every ten minutes someone takes it away from you and hides itThe Madman said:And for games, hmm, that's a bit tricky but the Longest Journey series has always had some pretty heavy cyberpunk themes. The games story and setting are basically divided between a futuristic cyberpunk reality and a Disney/Tolkien style fantasy world, so if you've ever wanted to explore a cyberpunkish world that series does a good job of letting you when you aren't in fantasy-land.
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I was talking about what could be called Cthulhupunk - I think Evangelion fits there.SweetShark said:I don't want Evangelion get near with my Cyberpunk wet dreams....DoPo said:So, CthulhuTech. And, I guess Evangelion. Probably some of WH40K. Can't think of others from the top of my head.SweetShark said:Also there is CthulhuPunk [Bless you Oh Mighty Spoony One].
Combination of Cyberpunk with the Horrors of Lovecrafting Creatures.
As for WH40K your answer is Necromunda.
I don't know a lot about the universe of WH40K [I only love the Grey Knights], but I am pretty sure Necromunda is VERY Cyberpunk. At least the feeling as I said.
I'd disagree. Necromunda is inspired by a lot of different things, the cyberpunk element isn't very strong.SweetShark said:I don't want Evangelion get near with my Cyberpunk wet dreams....DoPo said:So, CthulhuTech. And, I guess Evangelion. Probably some of WH40K. Can't think of others from the top of my head.SweetShark said:Also there is CthulhuPunk [Bless you Oh Mighty Spoony One].
Combination of Cyberpunk with the Horrors of Lovecrafting Creatures.
As for WH40K your answer is Necromunda.
I don't know a lot about the universe of WH40K [I only love the Grey Knights], but I am pretty sure Necromunda is VERY Cyberpunk. At least the feeling as I said.
That's not true in either case. "Cyber" refers to computerization and virtual (digital) reality, while "punk" refers to a humanist rebellion against the powers that be, which due to the power of the "cyber" is necessarily related to control over digital reality. All cyberpunk is about the dehumanizing and destructive effects of private crony control of computerization and digital reality (and sci-fi extensions of such) and a humanist counter-revolution (sometimes successful).DoPo said:No, not really. It's a theme that is explored by relatively a lot of cyberpunk fiction, but it is not a requirement. It makes as much sense as saying "Fantasy is about elves". Elves are there because Tolkien had them, corporations are there because Gibson had them. Cyberpunk, by its very name, is about technology and how it leads to, or perhaps rather helps with, the breakdown of society. That's it "technology" and "breakdown", it's what "cyber" and "punk" refer to in the name.
Vaporware would imply that it should have come out already but has repeatedly missed release dates. it was never coming out before the witcher 3 which isn't out till the beginning of next year.Gordon_4 said:And of course we have the (currently vaporware) game 'Cyberpunk 2077' that's (supposed to be) coming from CD Projekt RED, based on a tabletop of the same name.
Never get sick of this teaser. I've been jonsing for this sort of shit since I finished Deus Ex: Human Revolution (which should also be on this list).
I saw that one on the steam store, it looked pretty good, didn't quite get what the gameplay style is, how does it play?The Madman said:For books Neil Stephenson's Snow Crash can't be ignored as it's considered one of the founding pillars of the Cyberpunk genre.
For movies how has no one mentioned Blade Runner yet? That movie practically defined the genre in terms of visuals.
And for games, hmm, that's a bit tricky but the Longest Journey series has always had some pretty heavy cyberpunk themes. The games story and setting are basically divided between a futuristic cyberpunk reality and a Disney/Tolkien style fantasy world, so if you've ever wanted to explore a cyberpunkish world that series does a good job of letting you when you aren't in fantasy-land.
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Screenshot from the newest game in the series, Dreamfall: Chapters.
There's an old Blade Runner game as well which is supposed to be surprisingly good, although I haven't played it myself so don't really know much beyond that I've heard it's good.
This is the reason some people call the game "Watch Dogs" a Cyberpunk as well?briankoontz said:That's not true in either case. "Cyber" refers to computerization and virtual (digital) reality, while "punk" refers to a humanist rebellion against the powers that be, which due to the power of the "cyber" is necessarily related to control over digital reality. All cyberpunk is about the dehumanizing and destructive effects of private crony control of computerization and digital reality (and sci-fi extensions of such) and a humanist counter-revolution (sometimes successful).DoPo said:No, not really. It's a theme that is explored by relatively a lot of cyberpunk fiction, but it is not a requirement. It makes as much sense as saying "Fantasy is about elves". Elves are there because Tolkien had them, corporations are there because Gibson had them. Cyberpunk, by its very name, is about technology and how it leads to, or perhaps rather helps with, the breakdown of society. That's it "technology" and "breakdown", it's what "cyber" and "punk" refer to in the name.
The term "cyberpunk" is related to computerization specifically, which became an unstoppable force in the 1990s.
The real background for cyberpunk, although it's often not noted in the works themselves, is the dying earth. That's the motivating factor for the destruction of humanity - since the earth won't be capable of supporting billions of humans during the 21st century (assuming current projections continue), human beings no longer have value as living entities, moreso as entirely exploited agents, corpses, or new types of beings transformed by the emerging digital reality. Since there's no future for humanity, there's no reason to maintain humans AS humans, so transgressive techno-spiritualism resulting in post-humanism is the result.
The Hacker movement combined with the dying earth which brought us computerization (and cyberpunk) seeks a solution by going to the deepest recesses of the system itself, just as the solution in Cabin in the Woods was to explore the very workings of the system. That's why William Gibson protagonists are always "leet techno agents" or "leet cultural agents" - they are "post-humans" always entirely embedded into the system itself, regardless of their motivations.
Cyberpunk and hacker culture itself is post-apocalyptic - the idea is that the human apocalypse has already happened, we live in the wreckage, and we seek a new way forward not through the old ideas of religion and community but through technology and post-humanism.
It's a point & click PC adventure game in the same vein as titles like Monkey Island, King's Quest, or Grim Fandango only with a far more heavy emphasis on story and dialogue over puzzles. Dreamfall: Chapters is also the third game in the series, with the previous two games being The Longest Journey, Dreamfall: The Longest Journey, and now Chapters with plans for a fourth game called The Longest Journey: Home at some point in the future hopefully.Loonyyy said:I saw that one on the steam store, it looked pretty good, didn't quite get what the gameplay style is, how does it play?
If you like you can PV and see the game you are talking about and put it in the list.MrHide-Patten said:Now the big question I'm asking myself is, would bringing up my game be a form of advertising. Probably yes. so I shall let queries come before I dain bring the wrath of the ban hammer.
Actually, I want Cyberpunk titles from every kind of Media.Grouchy Imp said:Here was me thinking this would be a thread for the Cyberpunk pencil-and-paper RPG.
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Oh well, fine. Since we seem to be talking about video games I'll nominate the 90's Syndicate and Syndicate Wars titles. The visual aesthetic of Syndicate Wars particularly was very dark, although both games were thematically sinister.
To be faur, I saw only some images and it look VERY Cyberpunk to me.thaluikhain said:I'd disagree. Necromunda is inspired by a lot of different things, the cyberpunk element isn't very strong.SweetShark said:I don't want Evangelion get near with my Cyberpunk wet dreams....DoPo said:So, CthulhuTech. And, I guess Evangelion. Probably some of WH40K. Can't think of others from the top of my head.SweetShark said:Also there is CthulhuPunk [Bless you Oh Mighty Spoony One].
Combination of Cyberpunk with the Horrors of Lovecrafting Creatures.
As for WH40K your answer is Necromunda.
I don't know a lot about the universe of WH40K [I only love the Grey Knights], but I am pretty sure Necromunda is VERY Cyberpunk. At least the feeling as I said.
Yes, you've got various cyborgs and stuff, but they are mostly just there, they aren't a big part in the setting.
Fair point. Well in that case I shall continue to put forward the Cyberpunk RPG <a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Cyberpunk_2020_books>as well as the library of supplement books, and also throw in a risky vote for another RPG - Paranoia. Now Paranoia is not typically considered cyberpunk, but the game (typically very comical in tone) has an alternate rule-set allowing the setting to be modified to that of a very dark and sinister 1984 style vibe, and a Paranoia campaign run in such a way would very easily fall into the cyberpunk category.SweetShark said:Actually, I want Cyberpunk titles from every kind of Media.Grouchy Imp said:Here was me thinking this would be a thread for the Cyberpunk pencil-and-paper RPG.
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Oh well, fine. Since we seem to be talking about video games I'll nominate the 90's Syndicate and Syndicate Wars titles. The visual aesthetic of Syndicate Wars particularly was very dark, although both games were thematically sinister.
You can see even Cyberpunk Theme music also for example.
No,no,no.slo said:Now is Quake 2 cyberpunk? There are cyborgs and all, but there's no society or hacking or something of the sorts.