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Burst6

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I bet the Dwemer had guns. What happened to those guys anyway?

This game needs more steampunk.
 

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While this would be dumb, you don't have to dig very far to recognize the very strong sci-fi inspired elements in the series.

Besides the clearly Star Wars-styled Chitin helmet in Morrowind, there are:
divine space ships
human and elven space ships
robots
giant robots
a moon colony
and essentially magical email

Any empirically described magic is indistinguishable from technology.

Then, during a siege in one of the many wars in Tamriel, the local commander thinks that enough of that exploding potion could blow off the gates....so he sends for the alchemist who (after a few side quests on the way) creates enough potion to actually destroy the gates, resulting in the capture of the fortress. Tamriel now has a new wonder weapon.
But magic can do that more reliably and cheaply. I don't deny that guns and cannon would be useful to many people in Tamriel, just that they wouldn't see the advantage in developing the related technology to the point of creating a useful weapon. Weaponized gunpowder would be nipped in the bud by readily available magical weapons even though a fully-developed cannon would be useful.

Case in point, the notoriously inventive Chinese did not put gunpowder to military purposes. Technology is easily ignored, especially when it is obscure and restricted to the elite.

What happened to those guys anyway?
Turned themselves into a thousand-foot tall stompy robot.
 

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Valdsator said:
FUS RO DAH sure would be effective there...
But it is space type future idea, everyone wears a helmet, not sure if it would work or break your eardrums.

Not sure I would like it, but as long as it was a good game I would at least try it.

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Invasion of the Dwemer

Edit: I seem to have dropped a word my bad.
 

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2fish said:
Valdsator said:
FUS RO DAH sure would be effective there...
But it is space type future idea, everyone wears a helmet, not sure if it would work or break eardrums.

Not sure I would like it, but as long as it was a good game I would at least try it.

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Invasion of the Dwemer
If anything, FUS RO DAH could only be made more powerful in space, as there is no inertia in space to slow someone, so they would be blown into the void never to be seen again.
 

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Argtee said:
I would like to see a Steampunk-like Elders Scrolls game. It would be interesting.
Morrowind was probably the most Steampunk-like game in the series so far.
ya know, if it was set in the past, the dwemer are so totally steampunk. It could be about how they were enslaving the falmer(snow elves, not sure if the name is right though) and the extinction of the dwemer!
 

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Smeggs said:
2fish said:
Valdsator said:
FUS RO DAH sure would be effective there...
But it is space type future idea, everyone wears a helmet, not sure if it would work or break eardrums.

Not sure I would like it, but as long as it was a good game I would at least try it.

Elder Datapads I
Invasion of the Dwemer
If anything, FUS RO DAH could only be made more powerful in space, as there is no inertia in space to slow someone, so they would be blown into the void never to be seen again.
But in your own helmet the power could echo and boom go the eardrums.
 

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Ok, I'm not sure why no one else has said it but there is a series issue with TES in space.

In the TES universe there is no outter space. There is the mortal realm Nirn (nirm? nir? something like that) then the immortal realms which include a bunch of gods (aedra) in a physical form that look like planets to us. The "sun" is a huge hole in the barrier between the mortal and immortal realms and the stars are a bunch of small ones all made from retreating god like beings. And the thing that looks like the two moons is the rotting body of a god.


My point is if you were to build a spaceship in TES. YOu would only be able to get a slighly close up view of the Aedra and then hit the barriar. The Aedra would also probably not apperciate you invading their personal space.

Though, that being said, I think it could be kind of cool to explore the varies Aedra themed planets that are actually the Aedra themselves. It could be like Oblivion on LSD.
 

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Muspelheim said:
A group of professional Dwarven troll hunters stalking the caverns with submachineguns.
The Dwarves in the Elder Scrolls universe are "Extinct." (They all just sort of vanished, it's not clear if they're dead, in another dimension, time traveling, developed beyond their physical bodies or whatever)
 

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2fish said:
Smeggs said:
2fish said:
Valdsator said:
FUS RO DAH sure would be effective there...
But it is space type future idea, everyone wears a helmet, not sure if it would work or break eardrums.

Not sure I would like it, but as long as it was a good game I would at least try it.

Elder Datapads I
Invasion of the Dwemer
If anything, FUS RO DAH could only be made more powerful in space, as there is no inertia in space to slow someone, so they would be blown into the void never to be seen again.
But in your own helmet the power could echo and boom go the eardrums.
Dragonborn. We don't require oxygen.
 

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You should go write a letter to Bethesda.

They'll be like "Who the fuck sends letters? It's 2011." and then they'll throw it away without reading it.
 

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Burst6 said:
I bet the Dwemer had guns. What happened to those guys anyway?

This game needs more steampunk.
I fully expect the Dwarves/Dwemer to make a return. There is just too much possible story in the WHERE THE HELL DID THEY GO area. Perhaps the next game, you'll play a Dwemer who returns to Tamrial and has to get his people back into the world. You have the ability to jump from plain to plain of reality. Also your people beat back the High Elves who have nearly taken everything over.


*EDIT*

Also I really hope in one of the DLCs I can start and hopefully prosecute a war with the Aldmeri Dominion. Those bastards really piss me off. They keep sending assasin squads after me and I've never done anything to them.
 

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jthwilliams said:
Burst6 said:
I bet the Dwemer had guns. What happened to those guys anyway?

This game needs more steampunk.
I fully expect the Dwarves/Dwemer to make a return. There is just too much possible story in the WHERE THE HELL DID THEY GO area. Perhaps the next game, you'll play a Dwemer who returns to Tamrial and has to get his people back into the world. You have the ability to jump from plain to plain of reality. Also your people beat back the High Elves who have nearly taken everything over.


*EDIT*

Also I really hope in one of the DLCs I can start and hopefully prosecute a war with the Aldmeri Dominion. Those bastards really piss me off. They keep sending assasin squads after me and I've never done anything to them.
An elder scrolls game where you don't get to pick your race? BLASPHEMY.
but seriously, this needs to be DLC. The whole Dwemer thing just feels like it would be a great thing to expand upon.

But first, i want a DLC set in the Summerset Isles. Just like you, i want to wring some cocky Thalmor necks.
 

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Tiger Sora said:
Skyrim is already in the future. Haven't you seen the Nordic Space Program. We launch our Nordrinaughts into space using giants with sticks!
This is has made my Monday

a Toast to you my good sir *raises wine glass*
 

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Burst6 said:
jthwilliams said:
Burst6 said:
I bet the Dwemer had guns. What happened to those guys anyway?

This game needs more steampunk.
I fully expect the Dwarves/Dwemer to make a return. There is just too much possible story in the WHERE THE HELL DID THEY GO area. Perhaps the next game, you'll play a Dwemer who returns to Tamrial and has to get his people back into the world. You have the ability to jump from plain to plain of reality. Also your people beat back the High Elves who have nearly taken everything over.


*EDIT*

Also I really hope in one of the DLCs I can start and hopefully prosecute a war with the Aldmeri Dominion. Those bastards really piss me off. They keep sending assasin squads after me and I've never done anything to them.
An elder scrolls game where you don't get to pick your race? BLASPHEMY.
but seriously, this needs to be DLC. The whole Dwemer thing just feels like it would be a great thing to expand upon.

But first, i want a DLC set in the Summerset Isles. Just like you, i want to wring some cocky Thalmor necks.
Yeah, you are right. TES would never require you to be a dwemer. So the unknown champion of Dwemer kind who can be any race comes except Dwemer, somehow stumbles across wherever the hell they are (I keep saying where ever the hell because If I remember lore correctly several people and Aedra have been looking for them. Beings who really should be able to find them and so far no trace. ) Well in any case you find them, and then need to bring them back into the Tameriel to avoid the doom of the ah ah ah return of the giant cliff racers who breed very quickly and start to take over now that that skyrim guy killed off all the dragons.
 

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IamLEAM1983 said:
Whaaaa?

Elder Scrolls in space? Nope. Never. That'd kill the very spirit of the series. You want Space Fantasy? Stick to Warhammer 40 000.

Besides, open space outside of Nirn (the planet) is a supernatural void, Masser and Secundus are both facets of some god (I don't remember), and stars are actually comparatively tiny portals to Oblivion.

So, um... No. Don't like that. At least, not personally.
The moons are actually the body of Lorkhan, believe it or not. Lorkhan tricked the Aedra and Daedra intro creating Mundus (the mortal realm), and it started stripping their essence from them. In response, most fled the mortal plane, while eight Aedra sacrificed themselves and became the Divines (and basically act as the laws of physics and whatnot). I forget precisely how it went down, but somewhere in that kerfluffle Lorkhan was killed and his heart was ripped out. His body was made into the moons and his heart ended up with the Dwemer (where it eventually disappeared them, then Dagoth Ur found it and the events of Morrowind went down). Then Talos came along, somehow acquired Lorkhan's spirit and became the ninth Divine.

That's actually why the Thalmor outlawed worship of Talos. Their Grand Master Plan is basically 1) Stop Talos from being a god and banish "mortality" from existence 2) Undo creation 3) Become immortal
 

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Insanity72 said:
umm....what?

So your saying that the people of Tamriel, should shove an object that they've never heard of, or even have the gunpowder to make, down a metal tube, which would then result in there hands blowing off.....
To be fair, you don't really need gunpowder to make a bomb when you have a fire rune. It's not that outrageous to come up with a runic thing to create force, put that at the bottom of a metal tube, stick a bowling ball in after it and activate the rune.

Granted, it's a relatively large leap in logic, so it's understandable that they haven't come up with it, but they could easily have canons with their current level of technology if they put their minds to it.
 

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Easton Dark said:
It'd almost be like Star Wars, but with more sparkly effects for "The Force" (magic!).
^this

Running around on Tatooine searching for parts to fix that bloody landspeeder would be so badass. Oh, and MP COOP plz
 

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zehydra said:
IamLEAM1983 said:
My own post.
but 40k is a strategy game series, not an rpg series
Oh, but Warhammer still takes place in a pseudo-Fantasy setting, so it works. Y'know, with FTL travel being possible by way of running the risk of losing yourself and your entire freaking ship to Chaos and most Ork machinery running simply because they're so goddamned stubborn that, well, they essentially generate their own literal Reality Distortion Fields.

That and WAAAAUUGH! banners probably help. Warhammer having an amount of lore that equals and then trumps the Elder Scrolls', I'd say it still counts.
Agayek said:
IamLEAM1983 said:
My post again!
That's actually why the Thalmor outlawed worship of Talos. Their Grand Master Plan is basically 1) Stop Talos from being a god and banish "mortality" from existence 2) Undo creation 3) Become immortal
Awesome!

Well, the lore's awesome. I'm not sure I like the idea of an already long-lived species known for its snootiness suddenly turning into bona fide immortals. Can you seriously imagine a Summerset-occupied Tamriel? Being anything other than an Altmer would absolutely suck.