Power is it's own reward.
Also, he's Sith, so I imagine that eventually he'd want to fil lthe Galaxy with Sith bastiges.
Also, he's Sith, so I imagine that eventually he'd want to fil lthe Galaxy with Sith bastiges.
The Emperor's Motivation.
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I guess he wanted the power for the same reason the rest of us do, just cause. There really was no "means to an end" for him, he just wanted it to do whatever he wanted without any opposition. The only difference between us and him is that he had the means to get ultimate power, and we don't.grimsprice said:
On the other hand, there's always George Lucas although you'd have to help him escape the asylum he's in.
because the orginal 3 where poorly written and even more poorly exicuted leaving the entire plot to be drab, dull, and lacking.
Power is rarely ever an end. the few that find power as an end are murderious psychopaths which are direct and blunt, not mischiving and manipulative individuals lurking in the shadows. the emperor is always played as a cool calculating individual with a silver tongue and a plan b. the fact of not having motivation behind his wishes to garner power and create unity under his control is mearly another oversight of lucas writing as the emperor is not seen by Lucas as 'important' and thus is never truely fleshed out.
Power is rarely ever an end. the few that find power as an end are murderious psychopaths which are direct and blunt, not mischiving and manipulative individuals lurking in the shadows. the emperor is always played as a cool calculating individual with a silver tongue and a plan b. the fact of not having motivation behind his wishes to garner power and create unity under his control is mearly another oversight of lucas writing as the emperor is not seen by Lucas as 'important' and thus is never truely fleshed out.
Cause he's butt ugly. Chicks don't dig ulgy evil old men, but they like power, lots of power. So he's doing it to get laid.
I mean, he may be old, ugly, evil and tickle you in the wrong way with force lightning while you're doing it, but who wouldn't wanan screw the ruler of the universe.
And no, Power is not just means to an end, tehres tons of people who'd take power just to get it.
I mean, he may be old, ugly, evil and tickle you in the wrong way with force lightning while you're doing it, but who wouldn't wanan screw the ruler of the universe.
And no, Power is not just means to an end, tehres tons of people who'd take power just to get it.
He just wants more power? That's what most evil people want. And, lets be honest, he's become the insert character here evil template.
Why does he need a terribly deep motivation? It's like asking why Stalin wanted to rule the USSR or why Napolean wanted to become Emperor. The desire for power and control seems to motivate plenty of people already. If he was trying to destroy the galaxy, on the other hand...
I've only just started reading past the New Jedi Order series, but there are some things being implied about the nature of the Sith Order that might explain why the Emperor wants to take over the whole galaxy. Also, if memory serves, then I do believe the Emperor had some knowledge of the Yuuzhan Vong invasion of their galaxy, and for that reason wanted the galaxy united and a large military...
Or you could just accept the fact that he's the bad guy and Luke Skywalker & co. would never have become galaxy famous heroes if they wouldn't have had a bad guy to kill =P
Or you could just accept the fact that he's the bad guy and Luke Skywalker & co. would never have become galaxy famous heroes if they wouldn't have had a bad guy to kill =P
If you want the Expanded Universe handwave, it was to try and prepare the Galaxy to fight off the Yuuzhan Vong invasion (don't think too hard about that).
As to an actual motivation that might be held by a real person, power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Now he has absolute power, all he can ever want is more power. It's an escalation that's been going on all his life. First he gets a little power, then he wants more, he gets more, so he wants even more, and so on and so forth, presumably leading to his being immortal, and thus free to accumulate power for eternity. (Also, he wants to transcend material life and gather power on the infinite plain)
As to the fanwanky explanation, the dark side of the force strips you of things, or replaces a healthy emotion with an unhealthy counterpart. Anakin Skywalker loved, Darth Vader was obsessive; Darth Sion was angry, the dark side made him filled with uncontrollable rage; Kreia was mistrusting, the Dark Side made her manipulate everyone in order to never be plotted against, by instead plotting against everyone.
By this reasoning, Chancellor Palpatine was ambitious, Darth Sidious was power-hungry, see above explanation for power grabbing.
As to an actual motivation that might be held by a real person, power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Now he has absolute power, all he can ever want is more power. It's an escalation that's been going on all his life. First he gets a little power, then he wants more, he gets more, so he wants even more, and so on and so forth, presumably leading to his being immortal, and thus free to accumulate power for eternity. (Also, he wants to transcend material life and gather power on the infinite plain)
As to the fanwanky explanation, the dark side of the force strips you of things, or replaces a healthy emotion with an unhealthy counterpart. Anakin Skywalker loved, Darth Vader was obsessive; Darth Sion was angry, the dark side made him filled with uncontrollable rage; Kreia was mistrusting, the Dark Side made her manipulate everyone in order to never be plotted against, by instead plotting against everyone.
By this reasoning, Chancellor Palpatine was ambitious, Darth Sidious was power-hungry, see above explanation for power grabbing.
Its an opposing idea's of the Jedi and Sith philosophies the Jedi feel they are best suited by advising the galaxy with their powers. The Sith believe their powers are best suited for control of the galaxy. Their are probably references to cold war power struggles and such of other stuff.
The answer is self-evident once you understand that the Dark Side of the force is basically falling to your selfish personal desires just because your mastery of the Force gives you the power to abuse it.
The Emperor, like any good Sith, is trapped in a self-perpetuating cycle of desiring more power, being corrupted by that power, and this corruption introducing a desire for even more power.
At one point, he might have wanted to rule the universe to bring lasting peace to it. However, the Dark Side rapidly propelled him into being a twisted shell of a former man. By the time of his defeat, he was focused on wiping out his enemies and expanding the empire's power because it was the only thing that gave his broken life meaning anymore.
The Emperor, like any good Sith, is trapped in a self-perpetuating cycle of desiring more power, being corrupted by that power, and this corruption introducing a desire for even more power.
At one point, he might have wanted to rule the universe to bring lasting peace to it. However, the Dark Side rapidly propelled him into being a twisted shell of a former man. By the time of his defeat, he was focused on wiping out his enemies and expanding the empire's power because it was the only thing that gave his broken life meaning anymore.
Finally, someone else who realised that! Also, ignoring the prequel trilogy entirely, it's surprisingly hard to work out why the rebellion are the good guys. Other than the obliteration of Alderaan, the Empire does nothing that could be considered evil without the direct provocation of the rebels - boarding the Tantive IV because Leia stole the Death Star plans, interfering in Cloud City because it's an illegal operation that's also harbouring fugitives, and shooting Ewoks because C-3PO encouraged them to attack the stormtroopers. Why should the viewer side with the rebellion?
Megalomania isn't rational. Therefore, it can be assumed that the goal of megalomania is irrational. Power for the sake of power is irrational, because it is only the exercise thereof which has rational purposes.
I'm actually inclined to disagree. There is very little in terms of distruction and chaos during the Empire, not like in the last days of the Republic. The largest threat they faced was a rag-tag terrorist group with some government connections. In the end, the combined fleet of the "Rebelion" would have been completely slaughtered had it not been for the sheer luck that the shield station was disabled (and I always found the relative ease by which that happened to be just a little bit of a plot hole).Vivaldi said:
On that note, am I the only one who thinks that the moment after the Emperor died, everything went to hell? I mean, he was the Emperor of the Galaxy, and you'd think that there would be somekind of back-up plan in the event that he were to, for some reason, be incapacitated. I mean, he couldn't exactly be dealing with every nitty-gritty detail of running the f--king galaxy. There has to be an established bureaucracy for any government to run.
And, also, why were people outside the rebelion celebrating his demise? I really can't stress enough the fact that he was the emperor for nearly 30 years. And, while some aspects of the Imperial Military were a little brutal, wouldn't the majority of galatic citizens feel at least some sense of loyalty to the leader which guided them through a civil war and kept the Empire together in a period of peace and relative calm? And wouldn't they be outraged over his assasination by his protoge (or, if the press came out differently and make Luke to be the assasin, a boy who "he was giving a chance to return to the side of law and order")?
Am I the only one here who is noticing these kinda important points for after the death of the Empire?
