The end of gaming

sirchrissypoo

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I think games will come to perfection, but only from a graphics standpoint. Graphically, we will have perfect, photo-realistic graphics, probably within the next 10-15 years or so. Gameplay will similarly be toned to perfection, so every game will handle very well.

The place I don't see games becoming perfect is in the story department. There are a lot of games out there with amazing story, but that never seems to be the focus point for most developers. There will always be a glut of games that either don't care about developing a story or simply steal elements from popular books and movies to paste together into an abomination they call a story. I think the storylines in games will definitely get better as we go on, but it will never be perfect.

Let's assume someone eventually does make the perfect game. People won't stop playing games because they are perfect. They may not play many other games, but they won't stop. Otherwise, it wouldn't be a perfect game. I'd be more worried about people stopping when graphics all enter the uncanny valley.
 

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kanada514 said:
ColdStorage said:
technically Tetris is perfect, think about it, there isn't a single flaw with its design.
Isnt' it repetitive?
Only in the sense that there are only a few basic moves and shapes being delivered. The game experience constantly changed and ramps in difficulty, and one can never truly master the game - they can simply get further than the last time.

Perfection is easy to achieve when a game is simple. In chess, you have perfection because there are only a handful of rules with a handful of pieces yet the game allows for endless variations (not technically endless, but close enough for most people). The same goes for games like backgammon - there is no single flaw found in the game. Both Chess and Backgammon are perfect because the rules are simple to understand and they never produce ambiguous scenarioes, yet scale endlessly with player skill and ability.
 

D_987

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The perfect game would never ever get old and will remain as fun as when you first played it.

I doubt there will be a perfect game.
 

Kiutu

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Well, my perfect game would have to be like a TES game, and since I play them like mad, if there was a perfect TES (or TES like) game, I would lock myself in a room with it, attach a device to keep me alive, and just play it for all eternity. If anything, a perfect game would end humanity, not gaming.
 

Vel Getica

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I can't even really support the idea of games having been improving entirely, so I can't see it happening.
 

DeusFps

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Games are getting worse. Gameplay is suffering due to tards just wanting pretty pictures to look at.
 

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Eclectic Dreck said:
Perfection is easy to achieve when a game is simple. In chess, you have perfection because there are only a handful of rules with a handful of pieces yet the game allows for endless variations (not technically endless, but close enough for most people). The same goes for games like backgammon - there is no single flaw found in the game. Both Chess and Backgammon are perfect because the rules are simple to understand and they never produce ambiguous scenarioes, yet scale endlessly with player skill and ability.
Chess would have to go down as one of the most simple yet intrigingly complex games in history. There is something like 288 billion possible combinations in the first 4 moves alone! The Rubik's cube is another example of this. Such a simple concept, yet so difficult to master. However we're talking about a completely different medium to video games however.
 

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Eclectic Dreck said:
Only in the sense that there are only a few basic moves and shapes being delivered. The game experience constantly changed and ramps in difficulty, and one can never truly master the game - they can simply get further than the last time.
Don't underestimate other people. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDCpv8gEC4w
 

viddylan

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Games like Go and Chess and even Tetris have been played for years with no end in site. And the oldest of those games dates back thousands of years, so...no, games will probably never be "perfect", not from a graphics standpoint, plot, character, gameplay or any other criteria through which games can be judged.

It's not the games fault, really, it's just that perfect is such an impossible high-water mark to reach. I agree with VaioStreams up there though when they say the "end" of gaming won't come until the end of the world.
 

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How did you arrive at the conclusion that if they're perfect, people won't want to play them? "Mmmm, this cake is the most deliciously perfect thing I've ever tasted! I guess I'll throw it away now!" That's not how it works. No, I think it'll just become more and more realistic. The Wii will probably serve as the foundation for future consoles (at least in the way of motion-sensing).
 

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Sion_Barzahd said:
Syphonz said:
The problem is that around 80% of gamers are almost never happy with games that come out
Thats ironic cause i personally never seemed to find flaws in games, well most games, until i joined forums such as this one.
Before then i only had one friend who'd pick flaws with a game, and i just assumed he was a whiny ass who complained when he got stuck.
My thoughts exactly. I'd like to see some statistics behind that claim if you're going to make it. Critics are in the minority, they just make the most noise.

VaioStreams said:
first off. "perfect" is a subjective. it changes for everyone. some people think tetris was the perfect game, some think halo. sense perfection changes from person to person, that argument was DOA.
^^ That. Gaming IS an art form, there are endless possibilities. You may consider some crap, others may love. For example the Wii is like a Andrew Lloyd Webber musical - artistically and musical garbage made for the masses, but those purchasing it do so because everyone else has - it's seen as the quintessential artsy experience. Whereas World of Gooo is a thought provoking contemporary artists like David Shringley, he won't be noticed by nearly as many people as a Webber musical but his work does strike a chord with a large audience.

Also, the good ol' Long Tail theory. As gaming becomes popular more markets will emerge and those markets will invariably get bigger, so there will always be someone who wants to buy something, the economics of scale are out of the question as the volume sold is sufficient.
 

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Do you think you ever seen the perfect movie? What about the perfect book? Perfection is a matter of opinion and besides, all the perfect game would do is drive developers to top it, so no I think the perfect game would lead to a new renaissance in gaming like how JK Rowling has brought a new renaissance of fantasy literature; no I'm not saying her books are perfect but Order of the Phoenix comes pretty close, too bad they botched the movie.
 

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Perfection is an impossibility in any forum. Like art anything is open to interpretation, thus games can never be perfect.
 

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sry to say that will probably never happen as you could never make a perfect game for everyone
 

VaioStreams

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Puppeteer Putin said:
Sion_Barzahd said:
Syphonz said:
The problem is that around 80% of gamers are almost never happy with games that come out
Thats ironic cause i personally never seemed to find flaws in games, well most games, until i joined forums such as this one.
Before then i only had one friend who'd pick flaws with a game, and i just assumed he was a whiny ass who complained when he got stuck.
My thoughts exactly. I'd like to see some statistics behind that claim if you're going to make it. Critics are in the minority, they just make the most noise.

VaioStreams said:
first off. "perfect" is a subjective. it changes for everyone. some people think tetris was the perfect game, some think halo. sense perfection changes from person to person, that argument was DOA.
^^ That. Gaming IS an art form, there are endless possibilities. You may consider some crap, others may love. For example the Wii is like a Andrew Lloyd Webber musical - artistically and musical garbage made for the masses, but those purchasing it do so because everyone else has - it's seen as the quintessential artsy experience. Whereas World of Gooo is a thought provoking contemporary artists like David Shringley, he won't be noticed by nearly as many people as a Webber musical but his work does strike a chord with a large audience.

Also, the good ol' Long Tail theory. As gaming becomes popular more markets will emerge and those markets will invariably get bigger, so there will always be someone who wants to buy something, the economics of scale are out of the question as the volume sold is sufficient.
You've missed the point. I can't say I'm surprised one bit though. My problem doesn't come from the popularity of games and when an original IP comes out. I'm happy. My problem comes with. the popularity of games. let that blow your mind for a minute. what that means is the bigger they get. the lazier developers become because the less work they have to do. so the quality of the media goes down because it's much easier to please the masses then it is people who have been there for a while. if the game is pretty it'll sell. who cares if it plays like shit. story is shit and everything else about it is shit. so long it's pretty. The masses are ok. That's where my problem lies. now I'm not saying i only buy games no one has heard of. my point is there are basically 3 genres of games these days. Halo, Gears of War and Maddan. then some category sitting over there for everything. i played world of goo. i enjoyed it. it brought a smile to my face because it wasn't the current run of the mill BS they have been shoving down our throats for 3 or so years now. I enjoy originality. but what we are seeing in gaming now happens across almost all medias. It happens in music on a yearly basis."oh metal cool" so then you get a ton of metal bands they all sound the same until one sounds shitter then all the others. then it just goes down hill form there until they pick the next sound.

as far as i said about perfection changing from person to person is no one is ever going to like the same thing. Let me take Mirror's Edge for example. For what the game was. for an outting never before seen. i thought it was perfect. but many think the game was to hard. or they just nit picked at it. "the shooting sucks" well you're not suppose to shoot. the idea of perfection changes. you see it in the women, men marry. you see it in the games we play. Because of that vary reason right there. the idea of said perfect game ending gaming will never happen.