The End of Sony?

[norwegian-guy]

..What? What happened? I don't get it? Either you're exaggerating the hell out of something (possible) or something huge happened since last time I checked IGN (also possible)

Please fill me in

i just mean with the class action suit, the CC number's being sold and basically the whole cluster-fuck this hacking has turned into. I'm sure the Company as a whole will survive, I just wonder if Playstation will.

It will, but this is definetly a setback. I think anyone that owns a PS3 (myself included) will start demanding guarantied security.
I think they'l recover. But I wonder what precautions sony will present from the scenario, and what, if any, ammends they will present to their users.

 

[Pearwood]

I'm sick of people whining over this. You can't say the class action suit against them will ruin them or the credit card numbers being sold because not only is it totally unproven that the hackers got through their encryption for all we know Sony could be able to prove legally that they took every precaution to secure their data. It's not a case of if they get hacked they've broken a law, everyone is vulnerable to hacking, it only matters if they can prove they did everything they could. Can we please let this drop unless we can discuss it rationally?

I think anyone that owns a PS3 (myself included) will start demanding guarantied security.

No such thing.

 

[Rex Fallout]

..What? What happened? I don't get it? Either you're exaggerating the hell out of something (possible) or something huge happened since last time I checked IGN (also possible)

Please fill me in

i just mean with the class action suit, the CC number's being sold and basically the whole cluster-fuck this hacking has turned into. I'm sure the Company as a whole will survive, I just wonder if Playstation will.

Its unlikely that suit will get much of anything accomplished, (THANK GOD) Sony will be fine. They'll have a bad quarter then be back on the band wagon by summer. You're over exagerating. If by some odd chance they did die, I would probably stop being a gamer because I refuse to sell my soul to Microsoft, and... wait a tick, I suppose I might jump over to the PC. maybe, I'd need a shit ton of money, but that would be the best outcome.

 

[iLikeHippos]

So, with this whole mess coming to light over the last little bit, how does everyone think Sony will, if at all, recover from this? are we looking at the end of Sony, or, at least the Playstation aspect of it?

And if this is the end of Playstation, what do you all think is in the future for console gaming and production?

Sony still have their fancy electronics. I should know with my Sony 40 inch HDD TV right across me.

Sony can recover, but the PS3 and the PSN? It's just reasonable to give up on them right now. They have been hit so fucking hard.

Scrap it. The PS3 is dead, and PSN have proven to be the worst service up to date.
(I'm saying this because when you are responsible for 70 million accounts, you just don't fuck up. Especially not all of it.)

 

[The Common Hours]

Ok here is the thing, after everything is worked out, we will forget this all happened within a month. Thats how us gamers are.. itll just be another thing used when there is a ps3 xbox flame war going on.

 

[blind_dead_mcjones]

eh, sony will take the hit and will be back on its feet once this all blows over, after all 'the mob is fickle' it'l be forgotten in a month or two

i mean c'mon, Toyota is still flying high after that fiasco with the accelerator and brake pedals, and IIRC people actually died from that

They'll give everyone some a few token freebies and that'll be that.

The class-action lawsuit won't get anywhere.

Um, last time I checked Sony didn't rely on PS3 sales exclusively. They make a lot of products.

No, this isn't the end of Sony or the Playstation brand. If Microsoft was able to keep the xbox 360 going strong even after all the bullshit that happened with the red ring of death (2 of my consoles died because of it), Sony can get through this.

Everyone seems to have forgotten the cluster fuck that was the first generation of 360's.

Actually their other markets collapsed. They rely on the PS3 now. However even that market is drying up fast. I predict around 1-2 generations left.

Err... are you sure about that?

Yes. the profits from the console are basically the lion share of their profits. However, the console market is drying up. Sony's console wont last very long.

aaaand where are the facts, figures, and scources to substansiate this claim?

 

[Tony2077]

sce and psn aren't dieing and Sony isn't either so can we stop all this doomsday talk and trolling in some peoples cases

 

[tjs09]

@OP: Grab a piece of carboard, scrawl THE END IS NIGH across it and head to the streets!

[HEADING=1]APPLE[/HEADING]

oh god, thats a scary thought.

How would that be scary? Knowing Apple they would make it the ultimate system! 1080p, Full iTunes support, Surround capable, Blu-ray.[sub]Thinking of this is making me excited[sub] and slightly aroused...[/sub][/sub] And no Shitty motion controls. They know better.

I.... but!....

THE RAGE.... IT'S ASSUMING CONTROL!

Two Things:
1. I am sooo late XD
2. I just bought a PS3 O.O

OT: Sony will recover, if they don't you know who gets back in the game?

Sega

I like the way you think. I don't really agree, but I really like it.

Sega and Apple can get together and make a SUPERCONSOLE!

Just imagine playing all your favorite Sega franchises [sub]Panser Dragoon! Shenmue! Sonic! JET SET RADIO![/sub] on the greatest machine ever built!

PS- This is my face right now: X_X. I have fainted in excitement.

[sub]I know this is a pipe dream and has almost no chance in hell of happening, but still..[/sub]

 

[Tony2077]

ok this is a shot at myself but it most likely true chances of Sony dieing from this is about as likely as me waking up to two hot chicks in my bed not a chance in hell of that happening ever

 

[Hectix777]

No, in fact people are flaming at the wrong guy, this is like a bank heist. Everyone is getting mad at the bank with the giant steel vault instead of the people who, y'know, actually robbed them. Sony is too big a player in the videogame, entertainment, and hardware industry just to fall to some hackers, in fact... waitaminute, this only happend after GeoHot posted the Playstation 3 source code on the web. The Playstation hardware&software was practically impenetrable. THATS WHY SONY HAD THE LAWSUIT, to ensure this wouldn't happen! Okay, get this: Sony designed an encrypted source code for the PS3 that was incapable of being of solved and hacked. It's outerwall was so powerful that there was no need to protect the city within, so to say. Sony must have guessed, but couldn't say, that if the code was out in the world that hackers could have access to both the PS3's software and PSN itself! They couldn't tell GeoHotz that in public so they settled privately out of court and told GeoHotz what would happen now that the code was out. The code was removed but people managed to get their hands on it before it was lost forever. GeoHotz may he to blame for this, I'm not saying I hat him for what he did, but an entire global network of supercomputers went down and all our private info was stolen. Sony wasn't suing GeoHotz out of outrage or copyright, it was suing out of defense and hoping to stop this before it could happen! It makes perfect sense! Nobody could have seen this coming not GeoHotz, not Sony, and definitely not us. I guess Sony wasn't being an evil corporation afterall, it was doing something that seemed wrong for the greater good. Playstation is going nowhere, Sony is in somekind of earthbending horse stance forever, and GeoHotz maybe coming on this revelation.

 

[Leoofmoon]

if sony had a better securtey system, rather then...this http://www.vgcats.com/comics/

 

[Leoofmoon]

[HEADING=1]APPLE[/HEADING]

oh god, thats a scary thought.

How would that be scary? Knowing Apple they would make it the ultimate system! 1080p, Full iTunes support, Surround capable, Blu-ray.[sub]Thinking of this is making me excited[sub] and slightly aroused...[/sub][/sub] And no Shitty motion controls. They know better.

We all know the PC is the best. ever. No console can match the computer.

I beg to differ

 

[mjc0961]

Exactly, their markets have basically collapsed into themselves. the only one holding up is their console. Once that collapses sony will be in trouble.

OK then, sources please.

http://www.itnews.com/financial-results/28094/sony-profits-hit-falling-tv-prices-strong-yen

Their markets also collapsed in 2008-9 when people stopped buying big ticket items due to the recession.

That article also says that they made $886 million in net profits. That is $886,000,000.00 with all the zeros. That's not exactly bad news for them. They may have made LESS money than they did last year, but they still made money, and a lot of it.

 

[Leoofmoon]

[HEADING=1]APPLE[/HEADING]

oh god, thats a scary thought.

How would that be scary? Knowing Apple they would make it the ultimate system! 1080p, Full iTunes support, Surround capable, Blu-ray.[sub]Thinking of this is making me excited[sub] and slightly aroused...[/sub][/sub] And no Shitty motion controls. They know better.

We all know the PC is the best. ever. No console can match the computer.

I beg to differ

And why would that be?

Just becase a PC has some good games its mainly a indi market, but games on Consoles do run smoother without needing a update, defrag or other matince for the player to do. PC games are great but yet the only thing that iv seen(for right now im geting a new laptop monday) was Crysis but that was more of a trile by fire if the PC didnt melt its insides

 

[Verlander]

I think that Sony don't care much for their gaming department, and if anything were to close it down, it would be a lack of sales

 

[Eggsnham]

[HEADING=1]APPLE[/HEADING]

oh god, thats a scary thought.

How would that be scary? Knowing Apple they would make it the ultimate system! 1080p, Full iTunes support, Surround capable, Blu-ray.[sub]Thinking of this is making me excited[sub] and slightly aroused...[/sub][/sub] And no Shitty motion controls. They know better.

Please say you're joking... Please?

Apple would likely give it last gen software capabilities, make the HARDWARE look sexy, and overprice it by about $400 past what it's actually worth. And people would still buy it just on the promise of iTunes. That, my friend, is scary.

No offence, but I really think Apple needs to be re-thought. Steve Jobs is just messing with us at this point. Releasing the same product every 6-12 months with 1 (2 at most) new feature(s). And then he knocks the price tag up about $50-100.

Apple hate-ism aside, if SONY doesn't recover, then I s'pose I'm a little more happy that I actually invested in an XBL account recently. Maybe I'll make use of that thing more often. On the other hand, there goes $600+ dollars of PS3 equipment that I'll likely never get back.

 

[Wintermoot]

maybe the end of the security company,s reputation. but not Sony itself (Sony does WAAAAY more things then just console,s TV,s Laptops DR/DVD players etc.) worst case scenario the end of it,s console arm leading to stagnation in the console market.

 

[Easton Dark]

Nope. Not gonna happen.

Sony is a big company. This will blow over.

The status quo will remain!

 

[Meggiepants]

Yeah... I don't think so. Sony is fucking huge. It's not necessarily Microsoft huge (suppose it could be, I but I don't feel like looking), but I recall a class action suit coming against MS back when the 360 came out and it had something like a %20 failure rate, and look where they are now.

Class action suits don't usually bankrupt companies this big. They probably have lawyers on tap just for this sort of thing.

 

[Leoofmoon]

[HEADING=1]APPLE[/HEADING]

oh god, thats a scary thought.

How would that be scary? Knowing Apple they would make it the ultimate system! 1080p, Full iTunes support, Surround capable, Blu-ray.[sub]Thinking of this is making me excited[sub] and slightly aroused...[/sub][/sub] And no Shitty motion controls. They know better.

We all know the PC is the best. ever. No console can match the computer.

I beg to differ

And why would that be?

Just becase a PC has some good games its mainly a indi market, but games on Consoles do run smoother without needing a update, defrag or other matince for the player to do. PC games are great but yet the only thing that iv seen(for right now im geting a new laptop monday) was Crysis but that was more of a trile by fire if the PC didnt melt its insides

No, the market has never been better. Consoles rely on the AAA market, but the PC varies greatly. Steam itself only multiplied the success and variety tenfold.

Yeah but thats the thing the games you hear of are AAA titles on Pc too the others are indey games or some B game a company sliped out secretly