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Railgun88

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kikon9 said:
Pariah87 said:
Get a group of people together for any amount of time and with the right manipulation you can turn anyone to pretty much anything.

I'm not sure how to best answer you without making negative comments about certain aspects of the Christian community but it sounds an awful lot like brainwashing. I'm sure you can find the documentaries online where they visit these camps and I was truely sickened. My personal feelings for Christianity aside, just the methods employed shocked me and I couldn't believe anyone could target children in such a manner.

Ultimately, if she is happy, or she believes she is happy then there is little you can do to change that. If anything, trying to get in the way will simply make her cut ties with you. You or your friends cannot reverse the conditioning which occured during that week. That may sound harsh but incredibly clever conditioning is exactly what it is.

I should point out this doesn't happen will all christians, just certain groups and it sounds like that is the kind of place she went to.


If you think you can undo the kind of shit seen above, then good luck to you.
I'm not afraid of terrorists, serial killers, cannibals, or eldritch monstrosities. But that scared the fuck out of me.
You too? This is the scariest thing I've ever seen. And I have seen my friend have to shoot someone. But this by far, is much worse.
 

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Mad World said:
*SUPER SNIP*
I was joking, though really I don't care how good it is, if you want to seem sane thats an ironic title.

and its flawed in that your arguments are more or less just religious preaching, eith every single blatantly obvious logic flaw involved.
 

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I've found that this is common for folks who have recently converted to Christianity. Someone made a convincing argument, that's all. Give it time, it'll pass.
 

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I've gone to church every Sunday since I was born and it has only made me less religious...
 

Legend of J

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This reminds me exactly of an episode of a tv program i watched same word by word then they formed a religous cult in the youth.....hmm.
 

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Z(ombie)fan said:
I was joking, though really I don't care how good it is, if you want to seem sane thats an ironic title.

and its flawed in that your arguments are more or less just religious preaching, eith every single blatantly obvious logic flaw involved.
I thought that you probably were. Anyway, people should be able to get past the name - and it shouldn't even be an issue to begin with.

I'm defending my views, and if people don't agree, so be it; but that won't stop me from defending them. Anyway, I don't consider it to be flawed.
 

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How i see your situation.

Like many others i see that either she really had personal experience that had drastic effect on her personality or the infamous brainwash...

However If you find out that experience is true... support her because from my experience if you have faith it is something to respect.


this is small story how i lost faith so skip if you are not interested about my personal experience
Ironic is that back when i was younger
i was part of my local boy scout group (take notice that here in Finland thx to Luther religion is not main thing even in scout group who tho include some prayer etc in meeting). I had really big problems with my temper (example attacking my fellow scouts jumping to their throats if they happened to piss me off) and my group leader often suggested to prey for better feel and get strength to keep my cool...
However this did not work and i was aggressive and sad inside... at one of camps i simply lost my faith... i was religious and some what liked going to church but when you are told that preyer helps and it just doesent even when you have full faith it just kills bit of you inside and changes you. tho i was later able to get my temper undercontroll by medical treatmen i allways carry this empty bit that used to have faith :(

That is just my story but back to your friend.
Intervene and by speaking with subtle leading towards why so big change is best way...
I'd be seriously worried if she "cant remeber why"


Edit: Oh just remembered... religion is not all bad for example there is part if bible that i pretty much use as daily philosophy

Ecclesiastes 3:1-8
There is an appointed time for everything. And there is a time for every event under heaven ~
2 A time to give birth, and a time to die; A time to plant, and a time to uproot what is planted.
3 A time to kill, and a time to heal; A time to tear down, and a time to build up.
4 A time to weep, and a time to laugh; A time to mourn, and a time to dance.
5 A time to throw stones, and a time to gather stones; A time to embrace, and a time to shun embracing.
6 A time to search, and a time to give up as lost; A time to keep, and a time to throw away.
7 A time to tear apart, and a time to sew together; A time to be silent, and a time to speak.
8 A time to love, and a time to hate; A time for war, and a time for peace.
 

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XD omg i've never laughed so much at an article in my life... "kids will meditate on pokemon when there older!"