The Escapist's opinion on 'Dubstep'?

[2012 Wont Happen]

It's bad. There was a Dubstep concert in my hometown yesterday. I was sitting at the river two miles away and I could here it clearly. It was strange sounds intermixed with random profanity.

Utter shit.

 

[TheLoneBeet]

It's not for me. My sister really likes it. I just can't get into it despite that I like techno (some of it anyways) so.. yeah.

I'm not going to say it's bad though, because it irritates me to no end when people say music is bad just because they personally don't like it. I'm sure it's got to be good based on how many people like it. Like I said though, it's not for me.

 

[walrusaurus]

A) I wouldn't really call Dubstep 'new' its been around for nearly 10 years now.

B) I wuv wuv wuv it

 

[Baneat]

Talentless garbage. I prefer my music to have some structure. Psytrance all the way!

Were you digging at Psytrance at the same time or were you being serious? I have a large collection of psytrance, and I'd say this dubstep stuff (Trialing "My Name is Skrillex") is one of the closest things to the genre. The only closer genre is the "DarkPsy" sub-genre. Notice how both of them use a signature sound (That squelchy bass for Psy) (Whatever this dark sounding thing is in dubstep) under the beat. They sound similar for one. People'd hate psytrance even more because it's even more stretched out to like 9 minutes per track and changes itself less along the way.

Still listening, it really is like Benny Bennassi techno + Psytrance

 

[Ickorus]

Not my thing, most of it sounds identical to be honest.

I hope after posting you scrolled up and listened to what I posted 1 minute before you.

I think it's the next metal to be honest, the music that disassociated youth listen to so they can feel like they're rebelling from the mainstream.

Now you make me want to post this:

95% percent of everything is shit, regardless of genre. If you don't know where to look for a particular genre then you're likely to find a poorly representative sample and miss the artistic goodness it has to offer.

As a matter of preference I tend to gravitate towards post-rock and melodic death metal, but I also like a lot of classical, indie, some hip-hop, a bit of jazz, lots of stuff. I disagree with you writing off two whole genres based on (presumably) a superficial knowledge of them.

I'll admit defeat to an extent, I checked out your song and it is indeed different (Though still not my thing) but then I have also looked at other videos in this thread and heard songs that all end up sounding like they could be parts of the same song.

And my comment about it being the new genre for disassociated youth stands, sure there are some good songs mixed up in there but it's often so well hidden behind all the crap that I don't like that I end up generally ignoring the genre. The song you posted up (the one quoted) is a prime example of that too, it's OK but because it's hidden behind all the crap in the genre I wouldn't have heard it otherwise.

Personally when I decide I don't like a genre im not entirely writing it off, im still always open to it if people think they've found something i'd like of that genre (Proof being I checked out both your songs) but I won't listen to music I don't like and hope I one day find something I do.

Im a big fan of good long instrumental pieces myself and I really don't understand the attraction to most dubstep and metal so I may be entirely wrong about my disassociated youth thing but since metal has become and this genre seems to be becoming a mainstay of geek culture then it's my best guess.

 

[Images]

I find it a fat ball of meh to listen to. As an editor its useful to lay on certain bits of video or spoken word as a sound bed. But really? Meh.

 

[Vanguard_Ex]

Yup. Some of these faces require a perfect set-up. And for the life of me i can't understand cereal guy. [sub]What the fuck is he trying to say?[/sub]

Hehe yeah Cereal guy is hit and miss. He's either perfectly placed or just pointless.

 

[DanielBrown]

Completely unaware of what it is.
*listens to OPs link*
Yeah, I didn't think I'd like it. Damn, that's awful.

 

[ELD3RGoD]

I like old dubstep but I prefer dubstyle.

I don't know how to post a link so I'll just say, look up Razrwirez - Align.

It's dubstyle that sounds like machines are in the background aha.

 

[Custard_Angel]

I wouldn't say I hate dubstep, but I don't like it and I definitely don't understand it. Or techno. Or any sort of electronica really.

Very few people understand why I like death metal though, so I'm cool with not liking the whum whum whum music.

 

[Zivlok]

WUB WUBBA WUBBA WUBBA WUB WUB WUB

 

[Brandon237]

Ahhh... yuck... Electronica I can handle and enjoy a little of. This... every song so far has put me off totally... Eugh.

 

[MagnetoHydroDynamics]

I love it. That is all.

 

[Andalusa]

I like dubstep, I don't really have a favourite song. I just have it on in the background sometimes. Or if I'm at a club/party, I dance like a crazy mofo.

 

[Drakmorg]

Ehhhh, it's not bad. I try not to listen to it unless I have to though.
My last roommate only ever listened to dubstep and tended to blast it at high volume so I kinda had to get used to it.

 

[Tallim]

Can't stand it for the most part. I detest Skrillex for a variety of reasons and one of my friends keeps going on about it. Although I don't mind the odd track. Skream are ok usually. Everything else is junk.

 

[O maestre]

dubstep in denmark at least has been well known since 2007

i dont have a favorite artists since i have to admit it all sounds pretty similar, but i do like to listen to it occasionally

 

[razer17]

I'm from the UK, and here there has recently been a new wave of Music called Dubstep that has swarmed across the country, And i was wondering a few things about it...

Is it known about to escapist members in other countries?
Do you like Dubstep?
If so, What is your favourite Dubstep track?


PS, For anyone who would like a taste of what Dubstep is if they are unaware, this is a good example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZMfhtKa-wo

I would hardly call it new, since it's more than 10 years old.

That said, I love dubstep. Seriously, I fucking love it. The UK really does make the best dance music in the world. There is other good stuff out there, France has the whole electro scene, Germany has good techno, America has house, Netherlands have Trance (obviously, this is all simplified), but the UK has drum and bass, dubstep, garage (although the garage most people have heard is pretty poor), generally all the wonderful genres that have the huge basslines.

Most of my music library is dubstep and drum and bass, and there is nothing more fun than going clubbing when there's a dubstep night on.

Although, a lot of dubstep purists would contend that Skrillex isn't proper dubstep. A more representative track would be something from Skream or similar. I like all sorts though, from Skream to Rusko to Flux Pavillion.

Favourite dubstep track? That's a bloody hard question. There is such a huge variety of stuff even just in dubstep. One of my favourites would be this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-ltsvi4ojM&hd=1 Coki - Spongebob. The bass on it is ridiculous. I also really like Crossover by Magnetic Man, which is a lot more "commercial". Louder by DJ Fresh is a good track.

Skreams remix of La Roux "In for the Kill" was the first real dubstep track I heard, although I didn't really know what it was back then. I properly got into dubstep when my flatmate in my first year of uni really introduced it to me, and I think the first dubstep tune I really loved was Cockney Thug by Rusko, ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Riv8gXlf2xk&feature=related ) which I still really like. At first I only went for the harder edged dancey stuff, but now I listen to a lot of it.

 

[razer17]

Dubstep is shit. Worse than pop music. Worse than country. Worse than christian music.

And how much of it have you actually listened to to judge it as being shit, huh? Also, christian music isn't exactly a genre, is it? It's just other genres of music with some references to Jesus thrown in. P.O.D are Christian band, but I imagine that's not really what you are referring to.

Just because you don't like it doesn't make it shit. Essentially you are saying that your opinion matters more than other people's.

Not my thing, most of it sounds identical to be honest.

Don't even think about denying it, there is at least one example in this thread of someone complaining about saying one band sucks because of it degenerating into 'wubwubwubwub' and then posting a song that does exactly the same thing and acting like it's amazing and totally different.

So one person thinks it all sounds different, and you think it all sounds the same, so the obvious conclusion here is that obviously it is you that is right, not the other person /facepalm.

Talentless garbage. I prefer my music to have some structure. Psytrance all the way!

Talentless garbage you say? Well how about you go out, make a track, and get it to become popular with people who actually know what they are talking about? If it takes no talent everyone could do it, and there would be no bad dubstep songs, because anyone could make it.

Kill it.
Kill it with FIRE

OH NO! I don't like something! That obviously means it is objectively shit and should be destroyed. Let the whole world only listen to whatever shit I like.

I just think it's a fad.

Last year I'd never heard of it, and now it's suddenly blown up. The wobble noise you hear really annoys me. I don't like it at all. It's noise, not music. Good sounding noise sometimes, but not music at all.

The first big dubstep song that was in the charts was like 3 or 4 years ago, but it's been around for like 10 years now. People thought drum and bass was a fad, but that was like 21 years ago now, so...

Also, how is it not music? It has a rhythm, it has beats, it has all the essential elements of what I would think made something music. And that's not even going into the fact that music is art and therefore disqualifying something from being music is pretty hard to do since art is subjective.


Okay I think I have quoted enough people here. My point in general is that just because you don't like a genre of music doesn't make it shit or "noise" (technically all music is just noise, but whatever). You have the right to not like certain types of music, I obviously don't like every genre. But just because I don't like something doesn't mean that I think it's shit.

To say that a type of music is shit means you are saying you are better than other people, even if it is in a fairly trivial manner.

 

[black_omega2]

I just like EDM in general. I really like dubstep, but it's not the Messiah or anything. It's good listening music, and it's even become somewhat dance-able in the last few years. I still prefer other genres for dancing, ex. electro house, trance, hardstyle (I'm big on dancing to EDM.)

Also, I didn't realize there was this much hate for techno. I just kinda assumed it was ignored. What's up with that?