The Felicia Day/Destructoid situation

[Moonlight Butterfly]

I'm sorry, but what male gamers for example? Most the time male gamers don't have to "prove themselves" because that's pretty much the first thing they did to gain notoriety.

If Yahtzee, Jim Sterling, Toby Turner, TotalBiscuit etc didn't make it painfully apparent they are gamers in the first place no one would know who they are. Hell, it was one of the first things Nathan Barnatt did before the crazy dance videos and he really didn't need to.

Oh really? Because when I saw the first Jim Sterling or a Yahtzee video I didn't know anything about him? They are just some guy on the internet they could tell you anything. For all you know they could just be looking stuff up on google! They could be just getting someone else to write the reviews!!! (Being sarcastic obviously)

Felicia Day has made it clear she is a gamer so the only problem is whether you believe her or not and clearly you don't just because she happens to have boobs.

 

[DigitalAtlas]

I agree with everything you said OP.

"Miss Day" does nothing. In fact, the video series she's popular for just focused a sitcom around a game. A game, mind you, that isn't even real. She's not adding to any specific game, she's just there to entertain the community. Oh, and now she's doing Let's Plays just to keep the fanbase going. Like we didn't have enough of those.

She's not even a journalist, nor does she give any insight to designers. She's just a glorified fan. Even CHOBOT has more on her.

and are there not alot of guys who are pretty much the same? why don;t they come under such criticsm

To me, they are. Most Let's Players and show creators especially. For instance, unless someone can tell me what Michael Shanks does, he just made a good geeky show. Nothing more.

Well, if we ignore the premise that her show about gaming doesn't actually add anything to gaming (Which is wrong btw, but there is an easier way to deconstruct this argument), she is in fact "Adding to any specific game" because she is in fact a voice actor for multiple games.

But the voice acting came BECAUSE of her fandom videos. Not before. She didn't WANT to be a voice-actor. They just thought it'd be a cool cameo because she's everywhere and gets worshiped yet does nothing.

Except, you know, act, and write an entire web series and such.

Here's a question. Why does she HAVE to prove any kind of True Gamer Cred to anyone? Would it be so wrong if her perceived geekiness were just a foot in the door to an acting career? What damage would be done? This isn't a church, or a political party, we don't need to look for wolves in sheep's clothing.

What kind of criteria does she need to produce? What business is it of Ryan Perez?

Seriously, the woman is being criticized for becoming famous within a specific subculture and using that niche to get work. The acting business is, in case you haven't noticed, RIDICULOUSLY competitive, and focusing on a niche to sell yourself is probably the least unethical way to get ahead in it short of being discovered at a laundromat.

Who cares about any of that? The question is, what has she done for gaming? Entertain fellow players. That's it. She doesn't need to be everywhere and worshiped and treated like "Well, if Felicia Day says it's wrong, then I'm going to complain too!" as the other person who responded to me post said.

SNIP

Besides what I said above, I'm honestly not going any deeper into responding to this. Getting a bunch of people to join a movement because they like a celebrity is idol worship bullcrap and is no different than blindly following a religion, and if you truly believe that it's worth it, you're slowing the medium's progression down and making it so we're going to have nothing but "safe" products as opposed to works of actual art.

 

[Veldt Falsetto]

I agree with your Chobot thing, Felicia is actually an actress so it's all fair enough but honestly, questioning famous composers about what they've done for films is completely different from asking an actress who is treated like a gaming celebrity even though she has very little to do with the actual industry.

So, composers contribute to their industry but performers don't? Odd line to draw there.

She's been in..what 1 set of DLC for 1 game? Ok then, it's like asking an extra in a film what they contribute.

No, it's like asking an ACTOR what they contribute. Voice acting is acting even if it's one role in one game. THAT IS A CONTRIBUTION. John Cazale was in a handful of films before he died of cancer. He contributed to the world of film.

Serious, she's a film and tv actress, the only reason she is a gaming celebrity is because she likes them and she's a girl.

AND because of The Guild, which is the thing that got her noticed. Which is about a bunch of people playing a game. So there's that.

Yes, she has contributed to gaming but in Dragon Age 2, she contributed to 1 DLC in 1 game and while that may be a contribution I still think my extra thing is apt as I'm sure some extras have more screentime than Felicia has had time acting in a game and therefore must contribute more to their medium, right?

Well, for the record, I don't go on Twitter and say "What has Extra X contributed to the world of film? Justify your existence!"

Also, voice acting is more performing than extra-ing. There's a significant difference. Just ask SAG.

Oh no, I don't agree with what the guy did, I just don't think what he said would or should have any impact on anyone, maybe Felicia could feel a bit hurt about the thing and sure being fired from Destructoid is fine, that's all his stupid fault but our outrage is ridiculous

and some extras have voices, and a lot of work, it all depends on the scope but I don't think she's done much at all for gaming except get a lot of fans for doing very little

Also The Guild doesn't contribute to gaming, it's ABOUT gaming but only as a plot device, that's like saying a drama about a fictional football team contributes to the sport.

But doesn't it? I mean, I'm fairly sure a lot of basketball coaches have taken just the slightest bit of inspiration from Gene Hackman in Hoosiers.

I don't think so, maybe a few people can take something from it but honestly, that impact lessens even more in The Guild's case unless any MMOs have been made or changed entrely because of a comment in a webseries

 

[V8 Ninja]

At face value I don't see much wrong in those statements. If he slightly reworded all of the statements I think he would be absolutely fine. However, judging from the rest of Ryan Perez's Twitter messages, I'm going to assume he didn't just forget to carefully craft his words to more accurately get his point across.

EDIT: Looking at the comments again, he's asking Felicia to justify her existence. Yeah, that's pretty dick-ish. However, I see the non-dick point under his comments.

 

[Evan Waters]

I agree with everything you said OP.

"Miss Day" does nothing. In fact, the video series she's popular for just focused a sitcom around a game. A game, mind you, that isn't even real. She's not adding to any specific game, she's just there to entertain the community. Oh, and now she's doing Let's Plays just to keep the fanbase going. Like we didn't have enough of those.

She's not even a journalist, nor does she give any insight to designers. She's just a glorified fan. Even CHOBOT has more on her.

and are there not alot of guys who are pretty much the same? why don;t they come under such criticsm

To me, they are. Most Let's Players and show creators especially. For instance, unless someone can tell me what Michael Shanks does, he just made a good geeky show. Nothing more.

Well, if we ignore the premise that her show about gaming doesn't actually add anything to gaming (Which is wrong btw, but there is an easier way to deconstruct this argument), she is in fact "Adding to any specific game" because she is in fact a voice actor for multiple games.

But the voice acting came BECAUSE of her fandom videos. Not before. She didn't WANT to be a voice-actor. They just thought it'd be a cool cameo because she's everywhere and gets worshiped yet does nothing.

Except, you know, act, and write an entire web series and such.

Here's a question. Why does she HAVE to prove any kind of True Gamer Cred to anyone? Would it be so wrong if her perceived geekiness were just a foot in the door to an acting career? What damage would be done? This isn't a church, or a political party, we don't need to look for wolves in sheep's clothing.

What kind of criteria does she need to produce? What business is it of Ryan Perez?

Seriously, the woman is being criticized for becoming famous within a specific subculture and using that niche to get work. The acting business is, in case you haven't noticed, RIDICULOUSLY competitive, and focusing on a niche to sell yourself is probably the least unethical way to get ahead in it short of being discovered at a laundromat.

Who cares about any of that? The question is, what has she done for gaming? Entertain fellow players. That's it. She doesn't need to be everywhere and worshiped and treated like "Well, if Felicia Day says it's wrong, then I'm going to complain too!" as the other person who responded to me post said.

So... if she doesn't need to justify herself, where does Ryan Perez get off demanding that she justify herself?

I don't idolize her or anything. She has been in some stuff that I thought was good. The reason I think Perez is being a total asshole here is not because of the specialness of Felicia Day but because that kind of shit doesn't fly when you do it to anyone. If it takes a legion of Twitter followers for an asshole to learn a lesson, well, so be it. I'm not going to cry about unfair treatment.

 

[Kahunaburger]

I would totally respect that if all this righteous outrage was just keeping yourself, or just keeping anyone from being hurt.

Using a toe stubbing analogy, here's what happened:

1. A Destructroid intern stubs his toe.
2. ITT, some people say "that guy sure stubbed his toe!"
3. Also ITT, some people say "that guy didn't stub his toe! It doesn't count as toe stubbing unless there's blood everywhere!"

Still not sure I follow. Who's saying what.

It's more like, Ryan Perez-Hilton over there stubbed Felicia Day's toe, so then they... hit him in the face with a hockey stick. And the their privates are a big part of their discussion for little reason. Like, maybe Ryan Paris Hilton hates Felicia Day for her privates, or maybe he just said something dumb because that's what alcohol does. Makes people focus on private parts. What was I talking about again?

Okay, so with no analogies:

The point is not that discussing a particular sexist action retroactively prevents that action. The point is that discussing a particular sexist action allows us to determine what went wrong in this instance and what can be done in the future to avoid further such instances. This is true regardless of whether the sexist action in question could have theoretically been worse.

 

[TAdamson]

I'm sorry, but what male gamers for example? Most the time male gamers don't have to "prove themselves" because that's pretty much the first thing they did to gain notoriety.

If Yahtzee, Jim Sterling, Toby Turner, TotalBiscuit etc didn't make it painfully apparent they are gamers in the first place no one would know who they are. Hell, it was one of the first things Nathan Barnatt did before the crazy dance videos and he really didn't need to.

So you're saying that anyone who isn't immediately identifiable as a "gamer" must "prove themselves" before talking about or working in games?

AND if that person doesn't meet your arbitrary, meaningless and completely opaque standards you or people like you are going to ask "questions".

 

[Elamdri]

Spoiler: SNIP

I agree with everything you said OP.

"Miss Day" does nothing. In fact, the video series she's popular for just focused a sitcom around a game. A game, mind you, that isn't even real. She's not adding to any specific game, she's just there to entertain the community. Oh, and now she's doing Let's Plays just to keep the fanbase going. Like we didn't have enough of those.

She's not even a journalist, nor does she give any insight to designers. She's just a glorified fan. Even CHOBOT has more on her.

and are there not alot of guys who are pretty much the same? why don;t they come under such criticsm

To me, they are. Most Let's Players and show creators especially. For instance, unless someone can tell me what Michael Shanks does, he just made a good geeky show. Nothing more.

Well, if we ignore the premise that her show about gaming doesn't actually add anything to gaming (Which is wrong btw, but there is an easier way to deconstruct this argument), she is in fact "Adding to any specific game" because she is in fact a voice actor for multiple games.

But the voice acting came BECAUSE of her fandom videos. Not before. She didn't WANT to be a voice-actor. They just thought it'd be a cool cameo because she's everywhere and gets worshiped yet does nothing.

Except, you know, act, and write an entire web series and such.

Here's a question. Why does she HAVE to prove any kind of True Gamer Cred to anyone? Would it be so wrong if her perceived geekiness were just a foot in the door to an acting career? What damage would be done? This isn't a church, or a political party, we don't need to look for wolves in sheep's clothing.

What kind of criteria does she need to produce? What business is it of Ryan Perez?

Seriously, the woman is being criticized for becoming famous within a specific subculture and using that niche to get work. The acting business is, in case you haven't noticed, RIDICULOUSLY competitive, and focusing on a niche to sell yourself is probably the least unethical way to get ahead in it short of being discovered at a laundromat.

Who cares about any of that? The question is, what has she done for gaming? Entertain fellow players. That's it. She doesn't need to be everywhere and worshiped and treated like "Well, if Felicia Day says it's wrong, then I'm going to complain too!" as the other person who responded to me post said.

SNIP

Besides what I said above, I'm honestly not going any deeper into responding to this. Getting a bunch of people to join a movement because they like a celebrity is idol worship bullcrap and is no different than blindly following a religion, and if you truly believe that it's worth it, you're slowing the medium's progression down and making it so we're going to have nothing but "safe" products as opposed to works of actual art.

I'm sorry but if you can't see how contributing to gaming culture enriches the medium of gaming itself, then my friend you cannot see the forest for the trees. As it stands, Felicia Day is a gaming celebrity and as such, she has a lot of power. She has the power to mobilize people. If you don't think that being able to mobilize people is important, go ask John McCain. He'll explain it to you.

 

[Awexsome]

"I keep seeing [you] everywhere. Question: Do you matter at all? Do you even provide anything useful to gaming, besides "personality?" could you be considered nothing more than a glorified booth babe? You don't seem to add anything creative to the medium."

That alone is enough for me to see the firing as totally justified no matter who it was aimed at since he was doing it representative of the company in a professional sense.

And there are surely strong sexist overtones in that. I mean... how willfully blind to it would you have to be ignorant to it...?

 

[mindlesspuppet]

I'm sorry, but what male gamers for example? Most the time male gamers don't have to "prove themselves" because that's pretty much the first thing they did to gain notoriety.

If Yahtzee, Jim Sterling, Toby Turner, TotalBiscuit etc didn't make it painfully apparent they are gamers in the first place no one would know who they are. Hell, it was one of the first things Nathan Barnatt did before the crazy dance videos and he really didn't need to.

Oh really? Because when I saw the first Jim Sterling or a Yahtzee video I didn't know anything about him? They are just some guy on the internet they could tell you anything. For all you know they could just be looking stuff up on google! They could be just getting someone else to write the reviews!!! (Being sarcastic obviously)

Felicia Day has made it clear she is a gamer so the only problem is whether you believe her or not and clearly you don't just because she happens to have boobs.

May have missed the point. You likely would have never seen Jim Sterling or Yahtzee if, as I already said, they didn't prove themselves to begin with. Maybe when you saw them for the first time you didn't know what to make of them, but that doesn't mean they hadn't been at it for sometime. Many were first exposed to them here on The Escapist, but they had been doing their thing long before that.

How exactly has Felicia Day made it clear shes a gamer? People keep saying this, and acting like The Guild is some kind of proof, but it's not. Gaming is simply the situational basis for a comedy in The Guild, much in the way that actually Fantasy Football is a situational basis for the comedy in The League.

I love how so many people are quick to jump on Ryan Perez as sexist and then say this sort of trite "the only problem is whether you believe her or not and clearly you don't just because she happens to have boobs," with no regard. First of all, Felicia Day has boobs like your average teenage boy has boobs. Secondly, just no, I have issue with her specifically, not an issue with all females prominent in gaming culture.

 

[Evan Waters]

I agree with your Chobot thing, Felicia is actually an actress so it's all fair enough but honestly, questioning famous composers about what they've done for films is completely different from asking an actress who is treated like a gaming celebrity even though she has very little to do with the actual industry.

So, composers contribute to their industry but performers don't? Odd line to draw there.

She's been in..what 1 set of DLC for 1 game? Ok then, it's like asking an extra in a film what they contribute.

No, it's like asking an ACTOR what they contribute. Voice acting is acting even if it's one role in one game. THAT IS A CONTRIBUTION. John Cazale was in a handful of films before he died of cancer. He contributed to the world of film.

Serious, she's a film and tv actress, the only reason she is a gaming celebrity is because she likes them and she's a girl.

AND because of The Guild, which is the thing that got her noticed. Which is about a bunch of people playing a game. So there's that.

Yes, she has contributed to gaming but in Dragon Age 2, she contributed to 1 DLC in 1 game and while that may be a contribution I still think my extra thing is apt as I'm sure some extras have more screentime than Felicia has had time acting in a game and therefore must contribute more to their medium, right?

Well, for the record, I don't go on Twitter and say "What has Extra X contributed to the world of film? Justify your existence!"

Also, voice acting is more performing than extra-ing. There's a significant difference. Just ask SAG.

Oh no, I don't agree with what the guy did, I just don't think what he said would or should have any impact on anyone, maybe Felicia could feel a bit hurt about the thing and sure being fired from Destructoid is fine, that's all his stupid fault but our outrage is ridiculous

and some extras have voices, and a lot of work, it all depends on the scope but I don't think she's done much at all for gaming except get a lot of fans for doing very little

An extra is a nonspeaking role by definition. You're thinking of bit players, which isn't really a technical term, but even then, hey, everyone can be important. I don't see why we have to denigrate everyone.

As for "doing very little", how many web series have you written and starred in? I mean, that is a thing. It is a big thingy.

 

[Vault101]

Well he was a dick, but he's kinda right. "Nerds" put her on a pedastel because she's "into" video games and doesn't have any major appearance flaws.

how is he right? she's not responisble if other people put her on a pedstal...and ASIDE from that why does she need to justify her existance to anyone? as much as I hate to say it I think gener plays a role in this

and again, it wasnt a legit question, it was an insult, plain and simple

At face value I don't see much wrong in those statements. Reword the "Do you matter at all?" statement and I think the statement is fine. I could easily see this as mistaken implications from everybody. However, judging from the rest of Ryan Perez's Twitter messages, I'm going to assume he didn't just forget to carefully craft his words to more accurately get his point across.

at face vaule it kind of implies "women are only in the gming biz because they are attractive"

but ASIDE from that its a real dick move to go around and say "justify yourself to me!"..regardless of weather or not its motivated by gender

 

[Samus Aran but a man]

How is posting it on Twitter for all the world to see "private"?

Anyway, fool didn't know how the game works. It's career suicide.

 

[Evan Waters]

May have missed the point. You likely would have never seen Jim Sterling or Yahtzee if, as I already said, they didn't prove themselves to begin with. Maybe when you saw them for the first time you didn't know what to make of them, but that doesn't mean they hadn't been at it for sometime. Many were first exposed to them here on The Escapist, but they had been doing their thing long before that.

How exactly has Felicia Day made it clear shes a gamer?

If someone says they're a gamer, I generally don't question them on this assertion, any more than if they claim they're a big fan of Duran Duran or that they really like fudge. Life is too short to care about these things.

Do we have any evidence that she's NOT? If you're calling her manipulative and have "an issue with her" I would hope you have more evidence for her deceitfulness than a vague feeling.

 

[Kahunaburger]

I'm sorry, but what male gamers for example? Most the time male gamers don't have to "prove themselves" because that's pretty much the first thing they did to gain notoriety.

If Yahtzee, Jim Sterling, Toby Turner, TotalBiscuit etc didn't make it painfully apparent they are gamers in the first place no one would know who they are. Hell, it was one of the first things Nathan Barnatt did before the crazy dance videos and he really didn't need to.

So you're saying that anyone who isn't immediately identifiable as a "gamer" must "prove themselves" before talking about or working in games?

AND if that person doesn't meet your arbitrary, meaningless and completely opaque standards you or people like you're get to ask "questions".

I don't want to put words into this particular guy's mouth, but there is a general trend you see in some parts of the "gaming community" where they essentially see people who don't immediately come off as "nerdy" (as defined by various arbitrary behavior/appearance markers) as intruders until proven otherwise. This makes about as much sense to me as readers getting mad at people who read books and don't wear glasses.

 

[El Dwarfio]

Recently Destructoid writer Ryan Perez made a couple comments about Felicia Day on his Twitter account

''Ryan?s questions to Felicia were as follows: ?I keep seeing [you] everywhere. Question: Do you matter at all? Do you even provide anything useful to gaming, besides ?personality?? could you be considered nothing more than a glorified booth babe? You don?t seem to add anything creative to the medium.?''

Following total uproar Ryan was pressured into resigning from his position with Destructoid as D-toid issued apologies to Miss Day. Other figures such as Adam Baldwin and Wil Wheaton have come out in support of Felicia. But quite frankly...isn't he right? What of substance has she contributed to the gaming medium?

While some of his comments could be interpreted as insulting he made a valid point that much of the gaming community has echoed previously. And besides that,it was his private Twitter which was in no way associated with D-toid and he never claimed he spoke for D-toid. People now flock to his Twitter, calling him ''sick'' and a ''misogynist'' (the latter is quite confusing as he never made any comment that was anti-woman,simply anti-Day). Does a man deserve to lose his job for some opinions he holds privately?

Wile I wouldnt go as far to call the comments sick or mysognostic, they are a bit out of order. I mean what kind of self entitled **** is this guy? I mean seriously, why was this needed to be publicly said? The douchebag deserved everything he got.

As for Felicia, doesn't she act or someshit? if so then there's your answer.

 

[Vault101]

How exactly has Felicia Day made it clear shes a gamer? People keep saying this, and acting like The Guild is some kind of proof, but it's not. Gaming is simply the situational basis for a comedy in The Guild, much in the way that actually Fantasy Football is a situational basis for the comedy in The League.

you seem to have some set "idea" of what a gamer "is"...this attitude isnt always agood thing, promotes "us vs them" and (gotta say it) I think it fules the urge to attack members of the xx chromozome gender for not fitting to "your" definition of gamer

[quote/]I love how so many people are quick to jump on Ryan Perez as sexist and then say this sort of trite "the only problem is whether you believe her or not and clearly you don't just because she happens to have boobs," with no regard. First of all, Felicia Day has boobs like your average teenage boy has boobs. Secondly, just no, I have issue with her specifically, not an issue with all females prominent in gaming culture.[/quote]

no, I don't think thats what people are saying, as i saida guy made a mistake...you could even call it tragic...this kind of thing can hurt careers

regardless of weather or not it was gender related he was being a dick and was out of line...regardless

 

[Veldt Falsetto]

I agree with your Chobot thing, Felicia is actually an actress so it's all fair enough but honestly, questioning famous composers about what they've done for films is completely different from asking an actress who is treated like a gaming celebrity even though she has very little to do with the actual industry.

So, composers contribute to their industry but performers don't? Odd line to draw there.

She's been in..what 1 set of DLC for 1 game? Ok then, it's like asking an extra in a film what they contribute.

No, it's like asking an ACTOR what they contribute. Voice acting is acting even if it's one role in one game. THAT IS A CONTRIBUTION. John Cazale was in a handful of films before he died of cancer. He contributed to the world of film.

Serious, she's a film and tv actress, the only reason she is a gaming celebrity is because she likes them and she's a girl.

AND because of The Guild, which is the thing that got her noticed. Which is about a bunch of people playing a game. So there's that.

Yes, she has contributed to gaming but in Dragon Age 2, she contributed to 1 DLC in 1 game and while that may be a contribution I still think my extra thing is apt as I'm sure some extras have more screentime than Felicia has had time acting in a game and therefore must contribute more to their medium, right?

Well, for the record, I don't go on Twitter and say "What has Extra X contributed to the world of film? Justify your existence!"

Also, voice acting is more performing than extra-ing. There's a significant difference. Just ask SAG.

Oh no, I don't agree with what the guy did, I just don't think what he said would or should have any impact on anyone, maybe Felicia could feel a bit hurt about the thing and sure being fired from Destructoid is fine, that's all his stupid fault but our outrage is ridiculous

and some extras have voices, and a lot of work, it all depends on the scope but I don't think she's done much at all for gaming except get a lot of fans for doing very little

An extra is a nonspeaking role by definition. You're thinking of bit players, which isn't really a technical term, but even then, hey, everyone can be important. I don't see why we have to denigrate everyone.

As for "doing very little", how many web series have you written and starred in? I mean, that is a thing. It is a big thingy.

The web series wasn't for gaming but...I kinda could do a web series, I studied and made plenty of video and audio for about 5 years so...yeah but I mean in gaming and so if Bioware want to approach me and give me a bit part in Mass Effect 3's DLC I'd be happy to do so

(If you're reading and you need an English accent from an English male I'd be happy to help you)

 

[mindlesspuppet]

I'm sorry, but what male gamers for example? Most the time male gamers don't have to "prove themselves" because that's pretty much the first thing they did to gain notoriety.

If Yahtzee, Jim Sterling, Toby Turner, TotalBiscuit etc didn't make it painfully apparent they are gamers in the first place no one would know who they are. Hell, it was one of the first things Nathan Barnatt did before the crazy dance videos and he really didn't need to.

So you're saying that anyone who isn't immediately identifiable as a "gamer" must "prove themselves" before talking about or working in games?

AND if that person doesn't meet your arbitrary, meaningless and completely opaque standards you or people like you're get to ask "questions".

Nope not at all.

Remember MTV cribs back in the day? Practically every celebrity talked about playing Xbox with their friends and such, this was fine. None we're going out of their way to be a part of gaming culture, acting like any sort of authority on it, or stating that they played Xbox to increase their fanbase.

Also, nah, plenty of talent writers and artists in the gaming industry don't give two shits about gaming -- it's just a job to them.

Jennifer Hale has been in a ton of games because she is an incredibly talented voice actress. She has never pandered to the gaming audience, hell, the first we really heard from her was ala ME.

Felicia Day is significantly less talented, but gets work and featured at expos because of notoriety she gained via gaming communities and her niche audience of gamers that put her on a pedestal because she's "female gamer".

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

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Nice knock at her there with the boob comment. Nice to know what really matters to you!.

She has mentioned gaming many times in her interviews done specific work for games and this is from her blog

I know, for ME, when I started this road with The Guild, I had NO women to look at who were not wearing bikinis while they gamed. There was no ?relatable? woman/girl figure for me to look to, and that?s why Codex, Clara and Tink are EXACTLY NOT THAT: Because that?s not who I personally gamed with, that bikini-chick. I gamed with moms and angry college students and shut-ins. So to be accused of pandering Girl Gamer, of BEING A CASUAL (whatever the EFF that means)?well, it hurt. But the comments from MY viewers, who didn?t wanna be bullied, that made my night. So thanks to all of you who commented, even if you didn?t like the video, who defended ?casuals? and ?girl gamers?. Whatever label you slap on it, it?s just another way to hate.

So it's down to you whether to believe her or not. Like I said. Just like whether we believe Nathan Fillion or Yahtzee.