I can't believe all the major contenders that are going down in round one. Well, Spain and England. I guess that leaves Brazil and the Netherlands. I don't think Argentina or Uruguay have World Cup wood this year.
I've usually heard it described as the "last 16". Wikipedia agrees with me, so that's the strong option.Johnny Novgorod said:Hey, question. What do you call the World Cup's second stage, you know the one with 16 teams left and just before quarter-finals? It's "octavos de final" in Spanish but I can't seem to find a decent translation.
The round before the quarter finals is sometimes called the "Round of Sixteen", "Last Sixteen", or (in South Asia) "pre-quarter finals"; in some other languages "eighth-finals" is used
Didn't Suarez headbutt a referee? I heard that he eats human flesh.Paradox SuXcess said:After the England game, what are the chances that the red top newspapers (Mail, Mirror, Sun) will paint Suarez as the villain and some kind of scapegoat... again.
Uruguay played great and no one should take that away from them. Sad it's not how the British newspapers work really. They need someone to blame and Rooney may be on the top of that list.
not read the papers (refuse to acknowledge the s*n after Hillsborough) but it would be unfair to suarez if they did that. not sure what you mean by 'scapegoat again' though. i'm a livrpool supporter but even I (or any reasonable person) can see that he has done a few bad things.Paradox SuXcess said:After the England game, what are the chances that the red top newspapers (Mail, Mirror, Sun) will paint Suarez as the villain and some kind of scapegoat... again.
no way! Gerrard got a great assist for the second goal, oh wait......Jamieson 90 said:Gerrard, Jagielka, Henderson, Hart, Baines, Sterling, Welbeck and Sturridge were pretty naff, Gerrard and Jagielka especially so.
Glad Rooney proved his doubters wrong, thought he was probably one of the best players on the pitch behind Suarez.
Referee deserves a mention too and not in a good way, Godín was lucky to be on the pitch and should definitely have been sent off. Felt the ref was turning a blind eye to a lot of fouls aimed our way too but at the end of the day we're just shit, so no excuses, and yeah, the result doesn't at all surprise me.
And Germany too, who I think are probably in with a better chance to win it than the Dutch to be honest. Also, England was never a contender.Johnny Novgorod said:I can't believe all the major contenders that are going down in round one. Well, Spain and England. I guess that leaves Brazil and the Netherlands. I don't think Argentina or Uruguay have World Cup wood this year.
When I said "again", I meant every 4 years, when England crashes out of a world cup or loses a game, the red tops often want someone to blame. Gerrard is already getting the blame. Out of 22 players on that pitch, he is the one getting the flak for it. The Italy game, it was Rooney. The Suarez thing, yeah he has done some stupid shit and he did deserve the punishment he got. Heck, in the last world cup, he knocked the ball away with his hands, got away with it and cost Ghana the match.carlsberg export said:not read the papers (refuse to acknowledge the s*n after Hillsborough) but it would be unfair to suarez if they did that. not sure what you mean by 'scapegoat again' though. i'm a livrpool supporter but even I (or any reasonable person) can see that he has done a few bad things.Paradox SuXcess said:After the England game, what are the chances that the red top newspapers (Mail, Mirror, Sun) will paint Suarez as the villain and some kind of scapegoat... again.
To put it into perspective though, we were beaten by Italy - Euro 2012 finalists, ranked 9th in the world, Uruguay - World Cup 2010 3rd place, ranked 7th in the world, 2011 champions of copa America.
I see no reason why the media should blame suarez or anybody for that matter, England were beaten by the better team and that's that.
however.....if they did wanna cause some drama there is this little nugget....
After England's defeat to Italy last Saturday, Hodgson declined an invitation to describe Suarez as a "world-class" forward who was in the same bracket as Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo.
"He (Suarez) will only be at that level when he shows it on this particular stage (the World Cup)," Hodgson said.
good job roy, way to fire up Uruguay's best player.
I would say it is after every England defeat rather than every four yearsParadox SuXcess said:When I said "again", I meant every 4 years, when England crashes out of a world cup or loses a game, the red tops often want someone to blame. Gerrard is already getting the blame. Out of 22 players on that pitch, he is the one getting the flak for it. The Italy game, it was Rooney. The Suarez thing, yeah he has done some stupid shit and he did deserve the punishment he got. Heck, in the last world cup, he knocked the ball away with his hands, got away with it and cost Ghana the match.carlsberg export said:not read the papers (refuse to acknowledge the s*n after Hillsborough) but it would be unfair to suarez if they did that. not sure what you mean by 'scapegoat again' though. i'm a livrpool supporter but even I (or any reasonable person) can see that he has done a few bad things.Paradox SuXcess said:After the England game, what are the chances that the red top newspapers (Mail, Mirror, Sun) will paint Suarez as the villain and some kind of scapegoat... again.
To put it into perspective though, we were beaten by Italy - Euro 2012 finalists, ranked 9th in the world, Uruguay - World Cup 2010 3rd place, ranked 7th in the world, 2011 champions of copa America.
I see no reason why the media should blame suarez or anybody for that matter, England were beaten by the better team and that's that.
however.....if they did wanna cause some drama there is this little nugget....
After England's defeat to Italy last Saturday, Hodgson declined an invitation to describe Suarez as a "world-class" forward who was in the same bracket as Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo.
"He (Suarez) will only be at that level when he shows it on this particular stage (the World Cup)," Hodgson said.
good job roy, way to fire up Uruguay's best player.
I agree with you though. England were beaten by two great and hard working teams and nothing more they can do about it. Look at this link;
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/index.html
It's the first sport page and most having Gerrard in some sort of fiasco.
Mainly, I'm just saying there will always be some sort of scapegoat when it comes to an event like this. IT shouldn't happen at all but unfortunately, the tabloid papers love to drag things out like this and create a new villain. Remember the whole Cristiano Ronaldo situation at the Euros some odd years ago?
Yep. Wink-gate. When Ronaldo winked at his manager and for some reason, it meant he had a personal mission to take down. Objective: Get Rooney anger enough to be sent off. The mission was a success. The media lost their minds!!... Despite the fact that Rooney did step on the guys balls and Ronaldo had nothing to do with it because Rooney does have a bad temper. Well back then he did. So, who was to blame? The England team playing poorly against Portugal? No!! Blame Ronaldo because we need a villain and he winked!!!! HE WINKED DAMN YOU!!!carlsberg export said:are you referring to the wink episode by the way?
So am I. I thought our group would be England, Italy and Uruguay fighting over the two qualifying places with Costa Rica losing every game. Now they look set to beat the hardest group in the competition with nine points. Wow.The Goat Tsar said:Costa Rica up 1-0 over Italy at the half. I'm officially on the Costa Rica Hype Train. This is awesome.