The Force Unleashed: The Next Star Wars Movie?

[Susan Arendt]

I absolutely agree that part of the ire against the prequels is that they are inevitably compared to the original trilogy. And, yes, a good portion of the disdain is fueled by nostalgia, there's no question about that. But I think that Star Wars and Empire (and, to a lesser extent, Jedi) were simply better films. Better characters, better acting, better stories, better everything. You really felt scared when Luke, Leia, Han, et al were in that trash compactor. When those doors opened in Bespin and you saw Vader at the head of the table...so incredibly shocking. And Leia finally telling Han she loves him? Oh, heartbreaking.

I think you're largely right, though, that a person's preference lies largely in whichever trilogy they saw a) first and/or b) as a child.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

1.)That makes no sense whatsoever.
2.)It was for character development, and to show what Vader was before he turned all evil.
3.)Just shown as a younger age and that he was a clone.
4.)Where does that come from?
5.)Okay, I'm clueless about this one.
6+7.)How?
and 8.)The droids were mass-produced. They weren't the toughest, but they were cheap and that's all the Trade Federation wanted.

Fair points.
1) A New Hope had dogfights, lightsabres, The Death Star; Return had revelations, Hoth, Dagobah; Return had Speeder Bikes, "It's a TRAP!", Luke's near fall.
The prequels had lightsabre battles as their only moment of excitement : Hence lightsabre porn.
2/3) Character development is irrelevant at that point. Flashbacks only undermine the character arc unless they are plotted expertly. Taking a character that screams bad-ass and making him a brat just makes us loathe him instead of respect his authority.
4) The Pod Race. It should have been used as a dramatic scene, not the whole of the movie. Phantom Menace is simply "We've landed in the shit, let's bet our lives on a remote chance of getting out.". There's no development there at all. Even Anakin doesn't change.
5) Lucas is well known for using Earth references for all of his languages. The Jawas and Tusken Raiders speak a form of African; so having the "Lordy Lordy Dem White Guys be coming Boss" Jar Jar and the 'Mexican' dodgy pod dealer is just as bad as Star Trek's 'Big Black Fighting Guy' meme.
6) "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"
7) SLJ is boring. He sits with his hand on his chin whilst he's watching the whole Empire fall into shit.
8) Mass produced robots do not act like Kids Toys. Robots also can fire more accurately than humans.

To pass back to Susan in the Carmen Sandiago thread, the film is telegraphed and dumbed down; and what's worse is that it destroys the mystique of the second trilogy.
Han's arc from Scoundrel to Hero is circumvented. Sir Alec Guinness is cut out. Yoda's mystery is removed. Vader and Fett are left as embittered shells. Luke's mystery is cut out. Leia's image is already wrapped around Portman.
Even Jabba looks worse.

That's before we take in the weak performances, telegraphed endings and dialogue that FOX NEWS would shy away from.

One point remains, the first trilogy you see will be the strongest. The problem is that the second trilogy will be rubbish because of it; not strengthened by it.

 

[ElArabDeMagnifico]

I saw this moviebob video recently, seems like his prediction was right.


After seeing the "Uncle" in clone wars, I've come to the acceptance stage of death.

 

[Andy Chalk]

I think the next person who calls Stars Wars "A New Hope" should get an internets cockpunch.

Star Wars was genius, not because it was original in any way but because it distilled all that was awesome about the various films and genres it ripped off into one ground-breaking, mind-blowing, supercharged package. Empire wasn't genius but it was still cool because it was more Star Wars, and at that point the entire world was ready to kill for more Star Wars. Jedi wasn't so hot, but it was the end of the story so allowances were made and everyone went home happy.

The rest of it? Unadulterated crapola.

 

[Brockyman]

I think the next person who calls Stars Wars "A New Hope" should get an internets cockpunch.

Star Wars was genius, not because it was original in any way but because it distilled all that was awesome about the various films and genres it ripped off into one ground-breaking, mind-blowing, supercharged package. Empire wasn't genius but it was still cool because it was more Star Wars, and at that point the entire world was ready to kill for more Star Wars. Jedi wasn't so hot, but it was the end of the story so allowances were made and everyone went home happy.

The rest of it? Unadulterated crapola.

Uh... It's Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope. It says so in the FREAKIN OPENING. Its what the BOX says, and its what the creators and the studio calls it, so... Sorry, get over it.

 

[ElArabDeMagnifico]

I think the next person who calls Stars Wars "A New Hope" should get an internets cockpunch.

Star Wars was genius, not because it was original in any way but because it distilled all that was awesome about the various films and genres it ripped off into one ground-breaking, mind-blowing, supercharged package. Empire wasn't genius but it was still cool because it was more Star Wars, and at that point the entire world was ready to kill for more Star Wars. Jedi wasn't so hot, but it was the end of the story so allowances were made and everyone went home happy.

The rest of it? Unadulterated crapola.

I Am Going To Quote This And Say Nothing.

Isn't that what the "QFT" abbreviation is for?

 

[[Gavo]]

Ok. If they are to make a movie...please. Don't make it animated. For the love of God.

Anyways, maybe live action? Personally, I think if this happens, it can go 2 ways. Epic Fail or EEEEEEEEPPPPPPPPPPPPIIIIIIIIIIICCCCCCCCC FFFFFFFFAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLL.

I don't think it will make it, nice idea though.

 

[Hey Joe]

Isn't Kim-Jon-Il a movie fan? Didn't North Korea just take the seals off some of it's nuclear programs?

Just sayin'

 

[Dommyboy]

At least Star Wars: TFU had more importance and furthered the story line more than Star Wars the Clone Wars.

 

[Ixus Illwrath]

I thought SW-TFU was a movie, at least it's sure not much of a game.

 

[drzoidbergmd]

This would be interesting, But why the Hell does everyone say that the last three movies were crap?

It can't possibly be any worse than the last three pieces of crap Lucas and the gang shoveled out the door.

This line is what makes me lose respect for humanity. If anyone can answer why they were so bad, feel free to quote.

Episode One was good if you remove Jar-jar. But also in the first one they explained the force. WHAT THE FUCK?!?! But for 2 and 3...Hayden Christenson is a horrible actor and they made the love story that could easily have been an aside became the main point. Other than that, I and II were good.

 

[Susan Arendt]

I think the next person who calls Stars Wars "A New Hope" should get an internets cockpunch.

Star Wars was genius, not because it was original in any way but because it distilled all that was awesome about the various films and genres it ripped off into one ground-breaking, mind-blowing, supercharged package. Empire wasn't genius but it was still cool because it was more Star Wars, and at that point the entire world was ready to kill for more Star Wars. Jedi wasn't so hot, but it was the end of the story so allowances were made and everyone went home happy.

The rest of it? Unadulterated crapola.

Uh... It's Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope. It says so in the FREAKIN OPENING. Its what the BOX says, and its what the creators and the studio calls it, so... Sorry, get over it.

Yes, the chapter at the beginning of the movie is "A New Hope," but the movie's proper name is Star Wars...nothing more, nothing less. LucasArts changed it when the prequels came out, in much the same way that Raiders of the Lost Ark is now Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark.

 

[I'mANinja]

I'm a huge star wars fan, but frankly I'm not a big fan of the movies. The books and graphic novels keep me entertained. Though most of the time I say f**k the story. I love the technology, aliens, and awesome battles, and that's basically it.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

I'm easily amused by leaving the W out of SW:TFU.

 

[ThaBenMan]

I think it could make a good movie - the story of TFU is it's strongest aspect, by many accounts.

 

[Brockyman]

I think the next person who calls Stars Wars "A New Hope" should get an internets cockpunch.

Star Wars was genius, not because it was original in any way but because it distilled all that was awesome about the various films and genres it ripped off into one ground-breaking, mind-blowing, supercharged package. Empire wasn't genius but it was still cool because it was more Star Wars, and at that point the entire world was ready to kill for more Star Wars. Jedi wasn't so hot, but it was the end of the story so allowances were made and everyone went home happy.

The rest of it? Unadulterated crapola.

Uh... It's Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope. It says so in the FREAKIN OPENING. Its what the BOX says, and its what the creators and the studio calls it, so... Sorry, get over it.

Yes, the chapter at the beginning of the movie is "A New Hope," but the movie's proper name is Star Wars...nothing more, nothing less. LucasArts changed it when the prequels came out, in much the same way that Raiders of the Lost Ark is now Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark.

I don't know. I think the creators and the studio kinda have the right to do what they want with their stuff. If you want to change your name, I'm sure Lucas won't care.

Also, it could be construed as that being the title, b/c all 3 of the movies have "STAR WARS" in big bold letters, followed by the episode number and episode title.. "Empire Strikes Back" and "Return of the Jedi" Kind of like Lord of the Rings (LOTR: The Fellowship of the Ring, LOTR: The Two Towers, and LOTR: The Return of the Kings).

Heck, even when I was a kid, I called it "A New Hope" b/c that's the name of the story and all the movies were "Star Wars". Also, If the proper name was Star Wars, then why aren't the rest called Star Wars 2 and Star Wars 3 with the episode names as subtitles like Rocky or The first 6 Star Trek Movies (ex: Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan)?

The original posters say Star Wars b/c it was the beginning, and the simple "Star Wars" made it sound cool and catchy with great effects (all true!), while the full title would have confused people before establishing a base. "What hope?" "Why Episode 4 first, did I miss something?" would be asked.. It was marketing...short, sweet, and to the point.




Calling it proprely "Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope" shows that while this movie was the start, that STAR WARS is the name of the genre, the universe, the brand, the overarching story, the whole expanded universe, not just one movie.

 

[Brockyman]

I'm a huge star wars fan, but frankly I'm not a big fan of the movies. The books and graphic novels keep me entertained. Though most of the time I say f**k the story. I love the technology, aliens, and awesome battles, and that's basically it.

Do you think they should make a movie about the Battles with the Imperial Remnent, Vong Invasion of the Galaxy or the Sith/Imperial War? Those seem to be interesting storylines